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I'm not sure that's true. I think may true neutrals did like Liverpool more than the likes of Chelsea and Man United. I know I did.

Being more likeable than Chelsea under Mourinho and United, well, whenever isn't really that big an achievement though.

Being hated more than them, that's an achievement.

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Eh? We've always had shite from other fans and neutrals, it was only really Istanbul that made people who weren't our rivals sort of like us. Otherwise it was jokes about turning the corner, Fat Spanish Waiter or guff about the European ban.

Nope, I tended to find that lots of neutrals were more than happy to see Liverpool do well if their team didn't (bare in mind these were mainly West Ham, Spurs, Arsenal, Leyton Orient fans) it is only in the last few months I have noticed a massive change in attitude.

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Eh? We've always had shite from other fans and neutrals, it was only really Istanbul that made people who weren't our rivals sort of like us. Otherwise it was jokes about turning the corner, Fat Spanish Waiter or guff about the European ban.

You may have had shite, but you werent hated. Beforehand in the Man Utd/Liverpool game most neutrals would probably have rather Liverpool had won. Now, I've never seen so many people be happy when a club loses. I didnt know anyone who wasnt a Liverpool fan that didnt want them beaten, and that was before the game and the Suarez non handshake. I even had a Man City fan mate post on facebook "fuckin' hell it shows how shitty a club are if I'm happy Utd beat them!". There has been a massive change in attitude towards Liverpool since the whole Suarez affair.

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I'm in London and it defines exactly the change in attitude I've seen.

It's a combination of the fact City have overtaken United and Chelsea as the low point of football so supporting United's main rival doesn't really make any difference and more recently the fact that Liverpool seems to be about two steps short of installing separate drinking fountains at Anfield.

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We're finally starting to say some of the things that the PC gone mad brigade don't like. Finally a proper British team with actual British people to get behind. Fans "put up" with minorities because they have to, nobody ever really wanted to have to play another creed but we bent over.

British football is back with Liverpool and I think you'll start to see us getting a fair few fans off the back of it. Enjoy it, haters with your wishy washy united colours of bennetton bollocks.

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George Clooney

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thats just Internet people though, it's not real. I'm a sales rep in the north west, trust me that doesn't represent City fans

I'm really not sure what you are trying to say with this. Internet people arent real? Am I real?.......am I in an M Night Shymalymananaman film?

And I wasnt trying to suggest that was the general feeling with Man City fans, just that there was enough feeling there that even some of their fans were happier to see Man Utd win that Liverpool. I also know a couple that were happy Liverpool lost, but still not happy Man Utd won. Real people. Not internet people. Honest.

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With Liverpool it is just amusing to see fans who have no connection to the city or area, who only started following Liverpool because they won every week now have a team who just arent very good. Certainly not compared to the level the club have been used to over the past 40 years.

I havent decided whether the League Cup win is just paper over the cracks or not though, I still think Liverpool have it in them to generate massive amounts of cash (how much is their new kit deal worth again?) but barring an absolute miracle Anfield is about to have a third consecutive season without Champions League football. If three years becomes five years, and five years becomes seven then will the huge sponsorship deals that Liverpool can currently command begin to dry up?

Oh, and fucking Villa. One win in 2012, and no home win since the first week in November is really starting to grate now. The fans are voting with their feet though, pretty much everything that was said about McLeish at the start of the season has happened. Shit football, worse results, attendances plummeting. It just strikes me as one of the most baffling managerial appointments of all time. I'm just glad that the bottom five clubs are all piss poor this year and 35 points will probably be enough to stay up. It was a much stronger division last season, and I am glad our current side were not playing in that.

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With Liverpool it is just amusing to see fans who have no connection to the city or area, who only started following Liverpool because they won every week now have a team who just arent very good. Certainly not compared to the level the club have been used to over the past 40 years.

I havent decided whether the League Cup win is just paper over the cracks or not though, I still think Liverpool have it in them to generate massive amounts of cash (how much is their new kit deal worth again?) but barring an absolute miracle Anfield is about to have a third consecutive season without Champions League football. If three years becomes five years, and five years becomes seven then will the huge sponsorship deals that Liverpool can currently command begin to dry up?

Oh, and fucking Villa. One win in 2012, and no home win since the first week in November is really starting to grate now. The fans are voting with their feet though, pretty much everything that was said about McLeish at the start of the season has happened. Shit football, worse results, attendances plummeting. It just strikes me as one of the most baffling managerial appointments of all time. I'm just glad that the bottom five clubs are all piss poor this year and 35 points will probably be enough to stay up. It was a much stronger division last season, and I am glad our current side were not playing in that.

Most of my friends support Liverpool (I'm 35). Completely agree with you. My mate who I play Sunday football with has started supporting Barcelona since Liverpool stopped qualifying for the Champions League. The sad thing is, we have a league club* on the doorstep and none of them would ever go to a game :(

Just saw the penalty decision on MOTD now... what?! The worst thing is, Suarez goes down and feigns injury. He really is a despicable toad. He's not the only one that does it but he's made himself into a pariah this season and this kind of behaviour just adds fuel to the hatred. It's all about winning and getting results at all costs in football and football fans perhaps aren't the best to judge this kind of behaviour as they do tend to sit on very high horses (I do) but it's just cheating. Players must practice diving in training.

Sagna's cross was one of the best I've ever seen for Arsenal's first - WOW

*that's looking very dodgy at the moment

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With Liverpool it is just amusing to see fans who have no connection to the city or area, who only started following Liverpool because they won every week now have a team who just arent very good. Certainly not compared to the level the club have been used to over the past 40 years.

I havent decided whether the League Cup win is just paper over the cracks or not though, I still think Liverpool have it in them to generate massive amounts of cash (how much is their new kit deal worth again?) but barring an absolute miracle Anfield is about to have a third consecutive season without Champions League football. If three years becomes five years, and five years becomes seven then will the huge sponsorship deals that Liverpool can currently command begin to dry up?

Oh, and fucking Villa. One win in 2012, and no home win since the first week in November is really starting to grate now. The fans are voting with their feet though, pretty much everything that was said about McLeish at the start of the season has happened. Shit football, worse results, attendances plummeting. It just strikes me as one of the most baffling managerial appointments of all time. I'm just glad that the bottom five clubs are all piss poor this year and 35 points will probably be enough to stay up. It was a much stronger division last season, and I am glad our current side were not playing in that.

The thing is, I know a lot of people round here that didnt want to follow the local teams (Stoke and Port Vale) and quite a lot plumped for Liverpool not because they were winning everything at the time (most people I now that would have made this decision would have made it about 15 years or so ago) but because of how the club presented themselves. There has always been a sense of pride and history at the club that few others can match, and the fans are some of the most loyal and devoted out there, and most fans I know are proud of the club and its players. They love the history and the sense that they are part of something. I worked with one guy who booked the day off to go to the Hillsborough memorial one year. He wasnt from Liverpool, and I dont even think he was that old when it happened to remember it well, but he wanted to go to pay his respects, purely on the basis they supported the same club has him. And while that may seem a bit much for some people, I think that kind of sense of community within the supporters is another thing that few clubs have as much as Liverpool do.

I'm rambling a little, but the point I'm trying to make is that out of the bigger clubs, Liverpool always seemed to have this image of "doing the right thing". I cant think of a better way to put it I'm afraid. And that wasnt just through the club, but from the fans as well. Even the players (with a few exceptions) have always had the image of good guys rather than cocks, and the ones that werent were usually dealt with, or shipped off or whatever. Even if you werent a fan, I think as a neutral that came across. The problem is not just that one player is rocking the boat, its that the club and fans support him too. I think a lot of people expected Liverpool to react differently to it, and are disappointed by how they have.

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Hahaha. Oh Chelsea. You so funny. Spend £15 million getting in a new manager, then desperately spend the last two weeks trying to get Benitez in and now you get rid of your manager in an attempt to make things better? Why not just do what you and the fans really want, EBJT as manager and Fat Frank as his number 2?

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Wouldn't surprise me if Roman went to Benitez out of desperation. Get them back to playing that dire defensive football that made them so successful.

Edit: Di Matteo on an interim basis until the end of the season. Have to feel for AVB. Wasn't even given the opportunity to finish the season.

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The thing is, I know a lot of people round here that didnt want to follow the local teams (Stoke and Port Vale) and quite a lot plumped for Liverpool not because they were winning everything at the time (most people I now that would have made this decision would have made it about 15 years or so ago) but because of how the club presented themselves. There has always been a sense of pride and history at the club that few others can match, and the fans are some of the most loyal and devoted out there, and most fans I know are proud of the club and its players. They love the history and the sense that they are part of something. I worked with one guy who booked the day off to go to the Hillsborough memorial one year. He wasnt from Liverpool, and I dont even think he was that old when it happened to remember it well, but he wanted to go to pay his respects, purely on the basis they supported the same club has him. And while that may seem a bit much for some people, I think that kind of sense of community within the supporters is another thing that few clubs have as much as Liverpool do.

I'm rambling a little, but the point I'm trying to make is that out of the bigger clubs, Liverpool always seemed to have this image of "doing the right thing". I cant think of a better way to put it I'm afraid. And that wasnt just through the club, but from the fans as well. Even the players (with a few exceptions) have always had the image of good guys rather than cocks, and the ones that werent were usually dealt with, or shipped off or whatever. Even if you werent a fan, I think as a neutral that came across. The problem is not just that one player is rocking the boat, its that the club and fans support him too. I think a lot of people expected Liverpool to react differently to it, and are disappointed by how they have.

I support Liverpool for those very reasons, I've totally fallen out of love with the club since this whole Suarez thing and I'm not surprised the fans of other clubs have turned against us. Morons at the top, Suarez is a moron, and for so many fans, who for years have been credited with being the most intelligent or knowledgable, to blindly follow the egotistic, arrogant conspiracy theories trotted out by Dalglish and the like, it's just pathetic.

I've said this before and am just repeating myself now but I feel immensely let down by the club

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Chelsea LOL

@Stevie_McN: Torres has had 6 club managers in 18months. Benitez, Hodgson, Dalglish, Ancelotti, Villas-Boas, Di Matteo. #Jinx
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