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Charliemouse

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Interesting snippet from popbitch:

Although if it's true that he is fed up of the Spanish press and considering leaving Barca, I dread to think what he would make of the English press. Especially once they work out he's foreign.

I have a feeling Harry only wants the job for the Euro's anyway.

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a big boy

a big boy

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My fluid England 3-4-3

.......................Smalling... Rio...Lescott

......................................Jones

Walker.........................Cleverley.....................Cole

Ox..........................Wilshire (false 9!)..........Rooney

Not quite as stupid as I hoped

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Elseb

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Another new England home shirt then:

The-new-England-jersey-007.jpg

As usual with England shirts lately, it looks like a £3 Primark t-shirt. I wonder if they're going to follow up the last kit's weird royal blue shorts with RED SHORTS, just to make it look even worse.

Looks awful! No doubt it will cost £40 as usual. It's ridiculous.

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AlwaysBeClosing

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Cleverley after an hour of play, Campbell after one PL goal.. no Carrick, no Chamberlain (if he doesn't want to play him for ten or twenty minutes that's his choice, put him on at the start because he surely fucking deserves it more than Cleverley or Campbell do). Really odd that Lescott isn't there, nor Holt if we're going on form.

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Yobo Ahoy

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Cleverley after an hour of play, Campbell after one PL goal.. no Carrick, no Chamberlain (if he doesn't want to play him for ten or twenty minutes that's his choice, put him on at the start because he surely fucking deserves it more than Cleverley or Campbell do). Really odd that Lescott isn't there, nor Holt if we're going on form.

I may have imagined this, but I thought I heard the MOTD commentator say Holt's goals at the weekend were his first in 8 games?

But yes, In previous England squads there's always been a token lumbering oaf (Heskey, Zamora, Carroll and to a lesser extent Crouch)... a change of tact maybe? The strikers look alright bar Campbell, I don't really understand that one.

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dizogg

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I'd just like to make a point. People are always complaining about England picking good players "on paper" rather than a "team". But as soon as the squad is released people start playing Top Trumps!

I think having a go at a managers squad selection before we've even played a minute of football under him is a bit harsh. Fair enough, I don't really think Pearce is that good of a manager either but lets see how he does.

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Fry Crayola

Fry Crayola

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a petition for an international maximum wage throughout football

Attacking the problem from the wrong end. Footballers get paid loads because people pay £50 for a ticket en masse, and £50 to Sky every month to watch it.

That said, a wage cap (if it could ever be implemented) would have its use in stopping the exceedingly rich clubs from controlling the best of the talent - assuming the cap is low enough that other clubs can afford the players, but I'd rather see the fans benefit from cheap ticket prices and availability of games first.

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Daley

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Attacking the problem from the wrong end. Footballers get paid loads because people pay £50 for a ticket en masse, and £50 to Sky every month to watch it.

It's a bit chicken and the egg isn't it? Ticket prices rise as wages do but it's hard to be certain which came first. Personally I would say players demanding higher and higher wages is causing ticket prices to rise rather than the other way round. Of course all the FFP (or threat of them) is doing is that clubs are increasing ticket prices to try and generate more cash leading to ridiculous situations like this year where Chelsea didn't sell out for Champions League games.

I don't think you can cap ticket prices, surely that will be some sort of restraint of trade. What will happen though is if prices increase so will the empty seats. Arsenal games have taken much much longer to sell out this year. Then again that might just be because we are not very good. :(

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Fry Crayola

Fry Crayola

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The wage cap being suggested is global, and I would have thought that lower ticket prices could well result from its implementation given that the clubs wouldn't be so beholden to the likes of Tevez and Rooney's gargantuan wage demands.

I think now that it's been established that enough people will pay even £30 for a Premier League ticket, few clubs are going to reduce their prices much. It's football - the fans aren't going to go to watch another club just because it's cheaper, so there's little incentive for a club to lower its prices unless it's run by the fans.

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phresh

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There is more than one factor though, forcing clubs to run within their own means will (as FFP should do, in Europe at least) be a start that should see some of the wage bills drop. You then have the problem that there is such a massive disparity in revenues between top and bottom, a lot of which is perfectly acceptable commercial revenue, that any wage bill that the top clubs could easily afford would be miles above what the clubs below them could afford anyway. The only way a maximum wage would work is by limiting clubs to a percentage of turnover but fans will complain and it will create a fixed hierarchy of clubs no different to what we have now.

The other option is to spread revenue as per franchised leagues in certain US sports do but that would require scrapping relegation/promotion which nobody would agree to. There is also the issue that this only really works when the common goal isn't to buy and sell clubs as profit making entities.

In my opinion the only way it will ever work is to group teams by how much they earn, bundesliga has low ticket prices yet Bayern make a killing off commercial revenues so there is no guarantee the former would even the playing field out at all. A European super league is pretty much the only way the national leagues will break from the current status quo.

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Dudley

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The wage cap being suggested is global

Good luck enforcing that one in Qatar.

It's a bit chicken and the egg isn't it? Ticket prices rise as wages do but it's hard to be certain which came first. Personally I would say players demanding higher and higher wages is causing ticket prices to rise rather than the other way round. Of course all the FFP (or threat of them) is doing is that clubs are increasing ticket prices to try and generate more cash leading to ridiculous situations like this year where Chelsea didn't sell out for Champions League games.

Yep, I don't remember a single game going to general sale a couple of years ago but I've seen several this.

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