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Orri Frey Oskarrson and another Icelandic guy beginning with K, Kristiansen or something. Were on part time contracts in Iceland, picked up for £5000 or so each, and became the two greatest strikers the world has ever known, leading Rangers to something absurd like 4 Champions Leagues in a row and played until they were in their late 30s. Brilliantly I kept them on £800 p/w until they were something like 28 and multiple Champions League winners. Then they finally got their reward for their hard work for me, getting a bumper £3,000.

Apparently they exploited the early 2-d match engine as the engine at the time favoured high physical characteristics and they had the perfect combination of attributes to bumrape everyone.

I genuinely loved those two tuples in the database.

Sometimes it's more satisfying when you make a legitimate and big money signing, and they end up legends. I signed Cipril Andrei Marica for Rangers for £10m (weep) in 2005 I think it was, and he played for me until he was 38 and a Rangers legend, ended up becoming a coach, then I sacked my assistant manager to free up that position to keep him by my side always.

Also: Daniel Braathen, Kim Kallstrom, Kennedy Bakirciolglu.

And I assume we've all signed Taribo West in a free in our CM/FM careers?

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Rade Prica was absolutely dynamite in, I think, the 01/02 Champ. He could play in literally every single position on the field and dominated everywhere. Landon Donovan was quality too. You could get him on a free and he'd join a Championship team if you could afford his wages. Just stick him as the playmaker in the trusty 4-1-2-1-2 formation and 30 goals a season were guaranteed. Such was his impact in the 15 seasons he spent with my all conquering Ipswich Town team that I think I eventually got him as a coach where he was was hopeless.

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Andri Sigþórsson was always my first signing back in the CM9798 days, would score an absolute bucketload in my Rangers side. After a few seasons I'd usually try and get Aimar & Saviola as well, and would hang on to them until they retired and became coaches for me. I'd then pick up their regens who were pretty easy to spot due to the Argentinian/Scottish dual nationalities they inherited.

Ah, those were the days.

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I love the iPhone version as it's much more like the 01/02 game. I kind of fell out of love with it after that as it just became needlessly complex. The latest one just fries my brain as there's about 20 different ways to solve a problem, none of which give tangible results or feedback. I think I played 01/02 for years after and just relied on fan updates, which amazingly people still thanklessly churn out.

My brother had a game with Bohemians which lasted forever. If you got a plum draw in the European qualifying at the very start you could just about scrape into the group stages and inherit the relative fortune to utterly decimate the Irish league forever more. Over a steady period he managed to get just about every clapped out mega name on the game at some point or another. At a certain stage he had Salas and Jardel up top which he rested for every game but the Champions League and somehow managed to win for 3 out of 4 seasons. I thought I knew some tricks on that game but this kid wrote the bloody book.

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Andri Sigþórsson was always my first signing back in the CM9798 days, would score an absolute bucketload in my Rangers side. After a few seasons I'd usually try and get Aimar & Saviola as well, and would hang on to them until they retired and became coaches for me. I'd then pick up their regens who were pretty easy to spot due to the Argentinian/Scottish dual nationalities they inherited.

Ah, those were the days.

Fuck yeah, i used my ewntire transfer budget up for Rangers one season, after selling the dead wood and got him for £20m (weeeeeeeeep) and after a few re-tries he eventually accepted the contract and got a permit. Went on to be a club legend. Lost his pace enormously when he hit 31 or so though. Couldn't employ him as a coach afterwards either, thick as two short planks he was.

I camply organised him a wee 'testimonial' in the close season just before his announced retirement date though, against Boca or whoever it was that I signed him from.

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Fuck yeah, i used my ewntire transfer budget up for Rangers one season, after selling the dead wood and got him for £20m (weeeeeeeeep) and after a few re-tries he eventually accepted the contract and got a permit. Went on to be a club legend. Lost his pace enormously when he hit 31 or so though. Couldn't employ him as a coach afterwards either, thick as two short planks he was.

I camply organised him a wee 'testimonial' in the close season just before his announced retirement date though, against Boca or whoever it was that I signed him from.

It would have been River Plate, they both started their careers there. I think I always went for Aimar first, played a 4-3-1-2 with him effectively playing a free role behind the strikers. Back then you could get away with playing Barry Ferguson in that role until you could afford to replace him, and it was always good to keep Gattuso around as well. Simao Sabrosa was another one you could get back then, often on a free transfer as he'd be released by Sporting Lisbon.

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There are plenty of good reasons not to buy the Sun. I'm not sure a headline they ran several decades ago when none of the staff were the same is one of them.

Two decades ago and yes, because they haven't exhibited any of the same characteristics in their business since then, have they?

(The Cardiff fan died last year and it was the same sort of deal but on a smaller scale.)

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Oh we're doing CM heroes now.

Ibrahim Said, used to pick him up for peanuts and most of his stats were shit but he was an absolute rock at the back.

It did make me laugh that Tevez and Mascherano were shit but Djibril Cisse turned into the best striker in the world after a few years.

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Does anyone remember Ultimate Soccer Manager? Now there was a game. No idea why Fergie is depicted as the linesman.

Not that version of it, but I remember playing USM 98 occasionally if I'd played too much CM and got bored. I remember you could bet on your own games and accessed the tables and stats via Teletext.

I also remember the first version of FIFA Soccer Manager, which I actually thought was pretty decent. The match engine was terrible, but you could just sim the games instead and get through an entire season inside an hour. I remember signing an amazing striker named R. Gonzalez, took me ages to realise it was Raúl. There was a bug/glitch I found in the stadium builder that allowed me to increase the capacity to around 300,000 or something equally silly, and I'd end up making £4m profit every home game.

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Not that version of it, but I remember playing USM 98 occasionally if I'd played too much CM and got bored. I remember you could bet on your own games and accessed the tables and stats via Teletext.

That's the one. As club manager your responsibilities ranged from organising the first team training to setting the price for hotdogs on the concession stand and negotiating sponsorship. They certainly made you work for your money.

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Along with many of the mentioned, Tó Madeira was my CM 01/02 legend of choice. Of course, he didn't exist - he was one of the researchers who stuck himself in for a laugh - but he'd rack up a hell of a number of goals at any club you chose to put him in.

My most recent FM save was in the 2010 edition, which I played through until 2053, so all of my players were newgens long ago. I loved Jan Arild Engebretsen at Tonsberg for his goalscoring exploits, and he moved to Arsenal shortly after I resigned to take Merthyr Tydfil up from the Conference South to win five CLs on the trot. I've Javier de Muner to thank for that, the Argentine smashing goals in all over the place once I moved him from midfield to striker. :D

I picked up FM 2012 about a month ago, but all I've done since is fiddle with the editor. I figure there's no point starting pre-data update, which is usually out late Feb/early March, and besides, I fancy my hand in Oceania. :P

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Ah.. Kennedy Bakirciolglu, what a guy! My essential buy though was Fausto Rossini - wasn't cheap, but was a prolific scorer. At the age of about 32 once and seemingly on his last legs, I changed his training, and got his best two seasons out of him. Good times...

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My best ever player was a regen - in the older Champ Man games occasionally a team called 'Premiero Augusto' would turn up and you could guarantee all the world-class regens would be there.

Guy's name was Aboubacer Guel. Signed him for £7,000 for my Liverpool team and he then proceeded to score 52 goals across all competitions in his first season. Must have been George Weah regenned. He was so good and we were so dominant that at the end of that year I sold/released my entire squad save for him and bought their replacements from talented League 1 and 2 youngsters. Within a year they were all (apart from one) fully fledged internationals!

Ahh, CM '97. Good times.

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There are plenty of good reasons not to buy the Sun. I'm not sure a headline they ran several decades ago when none of the staff were the same is one of them.

They never paid for that disgraceful headline, just as the incompetent police didn't for causing the tragedy in the first place.

If it highlights what they did and costs them a few sales then all good. No football fan who has ever attended a game should have purchased the paper after that ever. If Kelvin McKenzie could be crushed to death instead then all the better, but that won't happen so it isn't wrong to keep attacking the paper.

96 football fans went to a game of football and ended up dead. The Sun claimed fellow fans were pissing on them and robbing their corpses.

If it had happened now, perhaps the Sun would have been screwed as the backlash thanks to the internet, etc would have been huge and we know Murdoch papers can be put to sleep.

In any case, we have a more recent grievence with the paper (which is one of the badges on the poster) after the death of one of our fans at Wembley last year before the England game and The Sun (and others) painted him as a sub human hooligan that deserved to die.

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My best ever Champ Man player was a regen called Murt Nadje. The only time I ever CTRL-ALT-DELETED was when I logged on to the bombshell that poor Murt had broken both his legs in a "domestic incident", and was expected to be out for three years.

Fuck that.

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I think the only time I ever cheated was when I conceded in the final minute of the final league game of the season causing my team to suffer their first league defeat of the season. I wasn't having that.

Should have just accepted it really. Nobody can really go through a whole season unbeaten in the league...

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My best ever Champ Man player was a regen called Murt Nadje. The only time I ever CTRL-ALT-DELETED was when I logged on to the bombshell that poor Murt had broken both his legs in a "domestic incident", and was expected to be out for three years.

Fuck that.

3 years! The worst injury I ever saw was the Italian striker Chelsea signed (Chiesa?) who starts the game with an 18 month injury layoff.

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