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BlinkyBear

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I don't think you can call wanting an English manager for an English team "xenophobia".

I think that if you want a manager who is not as good as the other options because of his nationality, it's xenophobic. I also think the persistant hounding of Capello by the British media has been disgusting at times and showed a clear and obvious dislike of the man because he was 'foreign'. I'd call that xenophobic.

Anyways, the Rafa shout is quite a good one actually. He'd be a decent international coach I reckon.

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Rsdio

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He's about the only other serious English candidate apart from the big two I would have thought. Only other names I can think of really are Rogers or Houghton, and neither have the experience.

Brendan Rodgers is Irish if that's who you meant?

If it absolutely has to be someone English then Pearce seems the logical choice to me and I'm half tempted to stick a tenner on at those odds.. I'm not even a betting man either. He's obviously been groomed for it (though it'll be earlier for him than expected) and if it is some sort of attitude/confidence thing with England players at tournaments as some claim then I imagine he'll be as good a gee-er up-er as anyone.

To be fair though, it'll take serious change in our footballing culture to get me giving a shit about the England team at this point.

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JamesTW

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I love Fabio Capellos style not putting up with any shit, and walking out like he's walking out of a job in McDonalds and showing the FA the respect they deserve, despite being English im a LFC fan and after the 1 sided self righteous media and fan reaction to the Suarez thing I'm looking forward to watching England get destroyed in the Euros, England will get what's coming to them

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Charliemouse

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Brendan Rodgers is Irish if that's who you meant?

If it absolutely has to be someone English then Pearce seems the logical choice to me and I'm half tempted to stick a tenner on at those odds.. I'm not even a betting man either. He's obviously been groomed for it (thought it'll be earlier for him than expected) and if it is some sort of attitude/confidence thing with England players at tournaments as some claim then I imagine he'll be as good a gee-er up-er as anyone.

To be fair though, it'll take serious change in our footballing culture to get me giving a shit about the England team at this point.

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Have you ever watched the England Under 21's play?

While they do seem to win a lot, they play very dreadful uninspiring football and Pearce seems to love big strong players over small technically good ones.

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BlinkyBear

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Money and transfers aside?

If you ignore the fact that both have spent heavily (Jose obviously more) and improved squads by bringing in better players, who has done better with their teams? What has Harry actually done? Why is it only now, aged 66, that he's in charge of a decent team? Has he built a decent team? What has he achieved?

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Stig

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Just on the subject on win percentage. Should we really look at that in much detail considering most of those wins we're against lesser teams during qualifying. When it came to the big challenge of the WC he didn't seem to have a clue.

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Manic Minor

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Depending on your views on foreign managers the good, or perhaps bad, news is that no overseas manager will touch this job with a barge-pole now.

Sven, Fabio, Phil Scolari (who didn't even take the job!) all hounded to fuck by the press. It's amazing how these things aways go the same way. Everyone in the press will now insist 'Arry is the only man for the job and then they'll all claim, when it inevitably ends in Englands abject failure to perform, that they had their reservations when he was appointed.

I used to love watching/supporting England, it's like a bad episode of Crossroads nowadays.

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neoELITE

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A bit left-of-field but the English cricket team is picked by a board of selectors. Would that be better? Get the top Premier League managers to select a squad and then get a coaching team together to collectively train that squad. Have one person as the manager to take charge during the tournaments.

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Rsdio

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Have you ever watched the England Under 21's play?

While they do seem to win a lot, they play very dreadful uninspiring football and Pearce seems to love big strong players over small technically good ones.

Yeah, I know. As I said, if it has to be someone English. None of those who fit that description are particularly good choices really, maybe Roy Hodgson excepted but I thought he should've got the job years ago and he's not coming into the running off a good run of mangerial form.

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Sirloin

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A bit left-of-field but the English cricket team is picked by a board of selectors. Would that be better? Get the top Premier League managers to select a squad and then get a coaching team together to collectively train that squad. Have one person as the manager to take charge during the tournaments.

They used to do it like that ages ago, I think it changed in the 60s/70s.

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Hawkeye

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They used to do it like that ages ago, I think it changed in the 60s/70s.

Looking at the current top 10 of the Premiership only two clubs have English managers, only four in the league (five if you count McCarthy at Wolves). Not sure the best managers from the league would work in that case.

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Sirloin

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Looking at the current top 10 of the Premiership only two clubs have English managers, only four in the league (five if you count McCarthy at Wolves). Not sure the best managers from the league would work in that case.

Well it used to be directors rather than managers I think. Just going on what I've read in the new Clough biography (which is really good).

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larrydavidsanger

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If I was Redknapp, I'd stay put. Why move from a great team you've built up over years where you're respected and lauded, to start a new job where they're out to get you from day one, where your player pool is fairly shit and where you'll have four or five months to get the team playing the way you want it to before the first major tournament. Oh, and you also get such limited time with the team that changing the way they play will probably take far too long anyway to be effective so you just end up doing what's gone before.

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