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emjay2kay

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Why do people keep bringing this up? For God's sake. Who are these people who think what goes on in any other country determines a national of that country's liability for breaking a law in this country? You can say that you didn't realise X was unacceptable in this country*, but you can't say that because it's acceptable in your home country it should be acceptable for you to do it here too.

If someone wants to call Brazilians "little monkeys" and shout "negro" to passers by, they can go to Uruguay and do it there where everyone keeps telling me it's perfectly normal and acceptable.

*Not that ignorance is a defence in itself anyway.

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El Pibe

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Why do people keep bringing this up? For God's sake. Who are these people who think what goes on in any other country determines a national of that country's liability for breaking a law in this country? You can say that you didn't realise X was unacceptable in this country*, but you can't say that because it's acceptable in your home country it should be acceptable for you to do it here too.

If someone wants to call Brazilians "little monkeys" and shout "negro" to passers by, they can go to Uruguay and do it there where everyone keeps telling me it's perfectly normal and acceptable.

*Not that ignorance is a defence in itself anyway.

The point is that it's not acceptable. They do it to wind up the Brazilian players.

For me Suarez's defence is simply a load of boswollocks.

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George Clooney

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Quite.

It's remarkable how previously it was all about evidence in the case and now usually lucid posters like Saint appear to have jumped on this with a "Oh that's happened so that MUST have happened".

Still the club can't do right by many a "football fan" these days. If they support their player despite lack of facts (believe him) they're criticised. If they decide not to challenge the ban they're criticised. They try to move on and an idiot fan behaves disgustingly and, despite the apparent free will of people we always hear about, the club are blamed again.

Oh and Kenny. Don't forget "KKKenny". How did he ever sign John Barnes in the 80's, was he drunk at the time?

Proof. All down to Dalglish.

I dont care if I get a warning for this. You are either a massive fucking bellend or a massive troll. You seem more convincing as the first though. You stink up every football related thread you appear in, including the one for the team you support, with the insane amounts of shit that spews from your posts. You are probably the worst poster on the forum, and while Smitty may be occasionally annoying, he at least has some positives. You have none. I'm really starting to hate Liverpool now and its partly down to you. You should be fucking ashamed of some of the stuff you post, which I get the feeling you are because it looks like you delete some of your more moronic comments. I'm sure you would say that this was in some way a display of class your part when in really its because how many people call you out on being monumentally stupid.

Your comments are a reflection though of exactly what Liverpool are doing wrong with this. They are too busy making excuses and playing the "oh its so unfair people are against us!" card that they still havent fucking condemmed what Suarez said. Or even issued an apology to Evra directly. Or condemned the abuse hurled by some of their fans through twitter or other avenues. The club are very much to blame because to some their comments come across as "whatever, its no big deal what he said, the FA just dont like us and like Man Utd more". Its fucking ridiculous and makes you look like cunts, but rather than being angry about it, most seemed to have taken the chest beating "we are anfield!" approach and defend the club. And aside from a few comments, most Liverpool fans dont seem to give a shit about the player that was abused, they care more that its highlighted the issues at the club again.

To conclude; Dinobot you are a massive cock and should stop posting.

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Didn't you post that 'This Is Klanfield' shit too?

1. That was a Man U fan; that post got massively possed by the football thread populace. They've spoken and that was what people seem to genuinely think. (look to your own enlightened fans)

2. I posted a similar picture to see the reaction. More posses! It seems the way to posses is to claim racism/give it a LOLerpool.

3. It is "just banter appropriate to the thread", apparently - so its fine.

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I'm just surprised people get so upset when others give an alternate point of view. Perhaps taking a step back and calming down would help?

Never have I said racism, in any form, is acceptable. That is clear. Sure the club should have, in hindsight, handled things differently - yet they believed their player and made the apparent mistake of standing by him.

The worse thing about the whole incident is that no one has come out of this well. People spew hate at Suarez, now at Liverpool and Kenny effectively calling both racists, and Evra is also getting a hammering. Ferguson has also come in for criticism too, albeit from fervent Liverpool fans.

All that's happened is that it's generated a big cycle of hate and that's the tradegy here.

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What I would have liked to have seen from Chelsea, Man Utd and Liverpool was a single statement, stating something like:

"Until the FA/police have concluded their investigations, that the club will not comment on the matter. Our club does not tolerate racism, sexism or homophobia from its staff or fans, and as such, if our player is proven guilty of the alleged offence he will not play for the club again."

But I also want the moon on a stick...

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The only people "hammering" Evra are the liverpool supporters.

Disclaimer: I'm not a Utd supporter, I follow Everton. Go to town on that.

If the Daily Mail are all Liverpool supporters then, considering their article on Evra and their attempt to keep it in the news cycle.

We've even had non-Liverpool fans on here calling Evra a knob; despite them being correct on that it doesn't change the fact that it's all continued to be mud slinging.

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If the Daily Mail are all Liverpool supporters then, considering their article on Evra and their attempt to keep it in the news cycle.

We've even had non-Liverpool fans on here calling Evra a knob; despite them being correct on that it doesn't change the fact that it's all continued to be mud slinging.

Daily Mail in being on the side of 'racist abuse' shocker?

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What I would have liked to have seen from Chelsea, Man Utd and Liverpool was a single statement, stating something like:

"Until the FA/police have concluded their investigations, that the club will not comment on the matter. Our club does not tolerate racism, sexism or homophobia from its staff or fans, and as such, if our player is proven guilty of the alleged offence he will not play for the club again."

But I also want the moon on a stick...

That would have been ideal, yet because they are businesses and have invested in a player like Terry/Suarez that wasn't going to happen.

And what's worse is that if it was someone like a youth/reserve player who the club didn't need/had invested in he'd probably be out the door in seconds.

That's the way of the world though - it comes down to money/talent and if someone is good enough then theyll be kept on and/or the organisation will try to find a way around it if they can.

It's not right it's just the way it is.

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If the Daily Mail are all Liverpool supporters then, considering their article on Evra and their attempt to keep it in the news cycle.

We've even had non-Liverpool fans on here calling Evra a knob; despite them being correct on that it doesn't change the fact that it's all continued to be mud slinging.

Hahahah bringing the daily mail out as an example of justice is brilliant, who next the BNP?

I don't think there is much doubt Evra is a knob but not really relevant is it.

Anyway, Cheltenham today in the cup - should be a nice easy win but this is Spurs after all!!!

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Hahahah bringing the daily mail out as an example of justice is brilliant, who next the BNP?

I don't think there is much doubt Evra is a knob but not really relevant is it.

The issue is that they've dug up old evidence involving Evra and have kept the whole thing spinning.

It doesn't matter as much who did it rather that it's been kept in the news and has inflamed things all the more.

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But Rhodes is good, it's definitely when rather than if he leaves Huddersfield now. Personally I think he'll go this window and be loaned straight back to them.

More likely than a straight-up move, but even if someone happens to meet our valuation I'm not sure whether they'd consider it a good idea to let their investment play another five months getting shite kicked out of him by League 1 cloggers twice a week. I don't think I would in that position.

Last season our star man (Anthony Pilkington who's now at Norwich) suffered a horrific career-threatening leg break in March so these things do happen unfortunately.

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Exeter win and Plymouth lose. A good day! :D

I mean this in the politest of terms

suck my cock :)

The FA Cup game I watched today was Birmingham vs Wolves. A drab 0-0 draw with absolutely nothing happening for 90 minutes played in front of a half full St Andrews. It was awful.

In the running theme of racism at football matches, some of the travelling Plymouth contingent apparently spent most of the match against Crewe today spouting off EDL chants. Absolutely brilliant - you shameful bunch of arseholes.

Congratulations to Stevenage today - great result for them. I think they've won more points than any other side, other than Man Utd, since the beginning of 2010. Being a Stevenage fan at the moment must be pretty sweet.

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I mean this in the politest of terms

suck my cock :)

In the running theme of racism at football matches, some of the travelling Plymouth contingent apparently spent most of the match against Crewe today spouting off EDL chants. Absolutely brilliant - you shameful bunch of arseholes.

:D

How are you feeling about Argyle at th moment? Do you think you have enough to stay in the league?

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:D

How are you feeling about Argyle at th moment? Do you think you have enough to stay in the league?

In my head, no. I'd say unless we sign four or five experienced players and stop relying upon teenage loanees from the Championship, we're doomed. However, our recent form over the last six or seven points towards mid table survival. We need to start winning games at home to get bums on seats and to get some confidence into the side. I felt sorry for both Torquay and Exeter when they went into non-league and I honestly want all Devonian clubs to do well; we're in the wilderness down here as it is without the local sport teams struggling.

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How do people feel the Derby will go tomorrow?

I have a feeling that without Yaya Toure City might, just, could, come unstuck. And if that happens and Utd turn them over...perhaps it could be a re-run of what they did to Arsenal all those years ago.

Okay so it's earlier in the season yet it might just happen. I think Utd might edge it!

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