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Well if they feel the FA are bias and unlikely to change their decision, what's the point in challenging and having the ban extended?

The FA have shown before how they're biased and lie as they see fit.

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The FA have shown before how they're biased and lie as they see fit.

Whereas LFC don't just tolerate the use of racist insults on the field of play, they celebrate it?

Even in this latest statement they're suggesting that Evra was bringing it on himself and ignoring the pinching incident.

Normal for Anfield.

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Whereas LFC don't just tolerate the use of racist insults on the field of play, they celebrate it?

Even in this latest statement they're suggesting that Evra was bringing it on himself and ignoring the pinching incident.

Normal for Anfield.

Pinching. Awful, awful.

Rooney elbows someone near the temple off the ball last season. A violent assault. The FA do nothing, saying that they can't (a lie).

Rooney boots a player and gets sent off for England. The FA back him to the hilt and ask for his ban to be reduced.

A pinch you say?

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Well if they feel the FA are bias and unlikely to change their decision, what's the point in challenging and having the ban extended?

It wasn't the FA that made the decision and I'm pretty sure any appeal would not be down to the FA to accept/deny.

I'm not sure why the whole 'nasty FA' thing keeps being raised when it has so little bearing on this.

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They know they aren't going to get anywhere with the FA, as they've made up their mind.

They could easily have fought the FA, then taken it to the courts, and on from there what would have happened? On and on and on and it wouldn't have done anyone any good.

Unlike the FA Liverpool will look past their own interests and take the higher ground. If only the FA themselves could take a leaf out of Liverpool's book.

Just when you think disciple can't be any more of a deluded idiot he once again raises the bar, amazing scenes.

Whats actually happened is that LFC have realised that they have dug a hole so deep the only way to save some face is to not drag it on further, if they thought there was a way to win this they would have taken it on. They don't really care about Suarez as he will sit out the ban and when sold on will get most of the money back as football is a fickle old game, why they do care about is their image and the bad press all the sponsors will be taking note of - take it further and make it worse and no doubt there would have been huge financial implications. They have bailed out before the public fully turns on them and it ends up costing them money, they don't believe they can win anything because the simple fact is that you can not call people 'black' in a football match (and he admitted that bit) no more than you can not do that in any form in the UK in anyway that could be seen as derogatory - to suggest it was a good natured part of friendly conversation would be like me calling you a 'cunt of the highest order' as a form of endearment as part of a discussion in this thread - FWIW i call my my friends cunts all the time, its normal for us to do so....

Liverpool took it as far as they could before it started to damage the club, they called the FA's bluff and lost.

And lets hope if Terry is found guilty he is dealt in the same manner.

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Pinching. Awful, awful.

Rooney elbows someone near the temple off the ball last season. A violent assault. The FA do nothing, saying that they can't (a lie).

Rooney boots a player and gets sent off for England. The FA back him to the hilt and ask for his ban to be reduced.

A pinch you say?

Repeated deflections with something that doesn't involve your club - you deserve Liverpool as much as they deserve you.

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Pinching. Awful, awful.

Rooney elbows someone near the temple off the ball last season. A violent assault. The FA do nothing, saying that they can't (a lie).

Rooney boots a player and gets sent off for England. The FA back him to the hilt and ask for his ban to be reduced.

A pinch you say?

Suarez uses racist language towards another player. Admits to doing so. Gets 8 game ban.

Why are you moaning again?

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Pinching. Awful, awful.

Rooney elbows someone near the temple off the ball last season. A violent assault. The FA do nothing, saying that they can't (a lie).

Rooney boots a player and gets sent off for England. The FA back him to the hilt and ask for his ban to be reduced.

A pinch you say?

These are my favourite of your posts, when you mention the Rooney 'elbow'... luckily for us fans its every other post :D

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Chelsea players were going to wear T-shirts with Terry's likeness on to show their support, but his lawyers put a stop to it on the grounds that they didn't have the image rights.

Fair point well made, i hear he sold the rights to an Indian tobacco firm - probably would be banned form being on anything sport related due to tobacco laws here ;)

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Horrible horrible statement, almost as bad as the first... and just saw KKKennys pre-match interview praising suarez for his statement :(

Where is the LFC of Shankly and Paisley??

Even as a Utd fan it is sickening to see a club act like this

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Yeah I can see how it might look like that. The only defence I can offer is that many neutral observers share my opinions.

I don't care enough to argue about it.

I wasnt meaning you in particular at all, so sorry if it came across that way. I'm talking about fans in general, particuarly some Liverpool fans in the Suarez debacle spring to mind that felt it necessary to abuse Stan Collymore amongst others.

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There's something wholly unconvincing about Disciple's schtick. The anti-Man Utd stuff in particular. It just seems so...OTT and forced.

It makes this thread incredibly tedious to trawl through everyday that's for certain. It doesn't help that every other post is one of his either. Not as clever as he thinks.

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It wasn't the FA that made the decision and I'm pretty sure any appeal would not be down to the FA to accept/deny.

I'm not sure why the whole 'nasty FA' thing keeps being raised when it has so little bearing on this.

The FA had nothing to do with any of this then. Sounds like they cannot accept or hand out punishments.

I never knew they had nothing to do with this, at all.

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Horrible horrible statement, almost as bad as the first... and just saw KKKennys pre-match interview praising suarez for his statement :(

Where is the LFC of Shankly and Paisley??

Even as a Utd fan it is sickening to see a club act like this

This bit is terrible, like they got someone from the forum to draft it for them.

Mr. Evra was deemed to be credible in spite of admitting that he himself used insulting and threatening words towards Luis and that his initial charge as to the word used was somehow a mistake.
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A simple apology for causing offence wouldn't have gone amiss in the same statement that Suarez admits to using the offending word. He didn't even have to make it to Evra, just a general apology for any offence caused. That's the kind of damage limitation I'd want to see as a fan. Both of these statements only really serve to cause further tension between two clubs. I can't be bothered to go anywhere near Red Cafe or RAWK tonight. It's obvious what's being said on both.

Never mind, Graham S and other likeminded LFC supporters, at least Alan Hansen still knows how to behave in light of an error of judgement.

Anyway, apparently there's a football match on...

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Why are you being inflammatory with this KKK nonsense? Not out of character to you to be so childish yet even so it's a horrible slur and trolling of the most disgusting order.

And now you're taking the piss out of my stutter :(

Are there no depths you wont descend to?!?

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So now you're ignoring that the report said that Suarez is not a racist, and you're just trying to stir things up further?

This is all rather ironic is it not.

All we need now is for NeoElite to run in and go YEAH SHOULD HAVE KICKED HIS HEAD OFF THE RACIST SOUTH AMERICAN, NO MESSING ABOUT!

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I still don't really understand why they stressed that he's not a racist but made it clear that his language was. How else can you judge a man other than his actions? I mean, unless he starts a group with the expressed intention of wiping a group of people off the face of the earth or putting dog poo through folks' letter boxes then shouting racial ephetats is about as bad as he's likely to get as a footballer.

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I feel this should be cross posted from the Liverpool thead just to balance out Dinobots nonsense and show that some Liverpool fans have some class and dignity.

I've read the Suarez report. I doubt anyone cares what I think, and suspect many in the thread would rather I shut up about it altogether (even though this is probably only my third or fourth post on the subject since the incident), but personally I found the report comprehensive, fair and persuasive and the penalty proportionate.

Suarez can fuck off as far as I'm concerned. It's one thing to say something stupid or over-the-top in the heat of the moment of a derby, as part of a heated dispute, or overstep the bounds with a bit of calculated trolling to wind somebody up and get them sent off. But the lies and bullshit that came afterwards have exacerbated that and have inflamed the situation rather than correcting it. It led to the club putting out that absurd statement, that also tried, wrongly, to make it look like Evra is a habitual user of the race card (when as far as I understand it he didn't hear any of the abuse in either the Finnan or Chelsea groundsman cases).

I can only hope the club have been taken in by Suarez, and they believed his (changing) stories. I certainly hope there is no cynicism behind the scenes about the way the club chose to handle it due to Suarez being a great player and valuable asset. I think it's brought shame on the club, and the response of some of the fans has been awful. Assuming he's not now going to hold his hands up and make amends, I'd rather he be sold, we can probably get our money back. As I assume the club won't do that, an 8 game ban is reasonable as a punishment and we can move on, but I'm unhappy that we handled things the way we did.

It's a pity. I loved Suarez. I love a good wind-up merchant, that was part of what I liked about him.

The statement they've released is horseshit. It reads like they are trying to save face, and hope that by not continuing, it'll push it out of peoples minds quicker. Its spin, pure and simple. Letting it go isnt the classy thing to do at all. If they were so sure that an injustice had been done, they should be fighting fucking tooth and nail to clear their players name, and show that you cant just go around throwing accusations of racism. Also, "they fully support the FA's fight to get rid of racism". No they dont. One of their players has just been found guilty of racial abuse, and they arent appealing it, but at the same time defending the shit out of him to the media and not doing anything to him. He even admits to calling him a negro, but not once have I heard them say anything like "we do not find this acceptable language and will be dealing with it". Even if their dealing with it just was having a word. Instead they have always gone with the "well, negro isnt offensive where he's from so it kinda ok". If I'm wrong on that please correct me, but I've never seen it.

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