Wistful Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 FYI, I have just sat through the entire press announcement at the Nokia Theatre. Just in case none of you get it this machine is AMAZINGLY powerful. The scene with the bird flying through trees and over water is all rendered real time in 1080p and quite frankly looks amazing. It looks significantly more powerful than anything I have seen on current generation hardware. Sounds great, I really hope you're right. I can't say the game trailers looked better than the PS3/360 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham S Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Unless you're heading towards 3DTV, there's not going to be an exponential change for this coming generation. That was already achieved with HD. This is usually the point in the console cycle where MK-1601 castigates us as ignorant fools who have no conception of the awesome power of upcoming graphics cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ras el hanout Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Sounds great, I really hope you're right. I can't say the game trailers looked better than the PS3/360 though. Why do you want it more powerful. They're only going to makes games that look like that. It probably is more powerful. Only Nintendo will wring the shit out of it. Everybody else with makes games for it so they look pretty much the same on all formats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoothy Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Loads of PlayStation Network releases did Remote Play too, and all the PS1 Classics support it. Rather unsurprisingly PS3 developers didn't spend much time implementing link features on the off chance someone buying their game would also own a PSP though. Even Hideo Kojima didn't really bother. I remember Sony demonstrating exactly what Nintendo has proposed with the Wii U controller, way back in E3 2006 (ironically). They were saying that the PSP could be used as a mirror (as one example). In the end though, it didn't end up in the final product, unfortunately, but not because it wasn't capable, but for time constraints and probably what you say too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Britten Posted June 7, 2011 Author Share Posted June 7, 2011 I remember Sony demonstrating exactly what Nintendo has proposed with the Wii U controller, way back in E3 2006 (ironically). They were saying that the PSP could be used as a mirror (as one example). In the end though, it didn't end up in the final product, unfortunately, but not because it wasn't capable, but for time constraints and probably what you say too. Sony have a habit of doing that, look at the eyetoy and MS expanding on that idea with Kinect. Im excited though and cant wait to see more of the console and what it can do. I think Nintendo announced it a bit too early without having anything really to show off for the system but then again they really had no choice, the Wii is on a sharp decline with support for the console being appalling for the rest of the year, they had to show off something to try and stop current Wii owners migrating to the 360/PS3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wistful Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Why do you want it more powerful. They're only going to makes games that look like that. It probably is more powerful. Only Nintendo will wring the shit out of it. Everybody else with makes games for it so they look pretty much the same on all formats. I want it more powerful so Nintendo can wring the shit out of it! Having watched the bird film and the Zelda bit I'm well happy with the power of it. I think the controller will be a massive hit, I'll be amazed if Sony and Microsoft don't ape it in some way (I know, Vita could do the job but that would be what you'd call an expensive controller...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futureshock Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Rubbish. Ok! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Britten Posted June 7, 2011 Author Share Posted June 7, 2011 Theres going to be two developer round table discussions starting around 1:30am our time, ones tonight and the other one is tomorrow. Hopefully we will get some new details about the machine and games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Ok! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Britten Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 Live blog of the roundtable meeting starts in 5 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Britten Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 Pikmin 3 now confirmed for the Wii U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Lemon Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 I'm up at this hour because I woke from a dream where I was playing Wii U as a young boy. Everything was going great until Ryan Giggs turned up to shag my mum. What does it all mean? Anyway, having played Wii U in my dream, I can confirm it's amazing, especially Zelda Kart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayn Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 What does it all mean? You subconciously think that Nintendo are the mother of gaming, and the king of sex wants it. Mother of gaming is teh sex! Or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nnooo Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Been there, seen it, played it, loved it. Man alive the in game engine demos are even better when seen close up than they were in the auditorium. Steven, one of our coders, stood in line to play the demos today (I watched from a distance as we have 2 meetings with Nintendo so will hopefully be playing it without queueing ). He really enjoyed it and it has got our brains tingling with possibilities. Most of the demos are more tech tests than anything else but they all really show the potential of the system. Basically its looking like a Wii with better graphics than the 360/PS3 with all the motion controls, where necessary, and neat new personal screen stuff too. From the sounds of it their online strategy is going to be heaps better. So all the cool 360 and PS3 franchises can move over to it and all the cool Nintendo stuff will be there too. I think this is a really clever move. Plus breaking news (sorry if already posted I have been out all day at E3 ) Unreal Engine 3 coming to Wii U which AFAIK is a first for Nintendo in a very long time... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padlocked Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 This is usually the point in the console cycle where MK-1601 castigates us as ignorant fools who have no conception of the awesome power of upcoming graphics cards. Just look at the BF3 videos. That's the next xbox and playstation in 3 years time, on your TV. It looks incredible. On the other hand, the Wii U will be the only console with exclusives worth a damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayn Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Just look at the BF3 videos. That's the next xbox and playstation in 3 years time, on your TV. It looks incredible. Will we actually think BF3 looks incredible in three years from now, though? Games utilizing a realistic approach in its graphics tends to age more quickly than more abstract or cartoony looking games. While I agree BF3 looks terrific, I wouldn't be surprised if it's surpassed, visually, by a handful of games just a few months after it's been released. I certainly hope that the next gen Xbox and Playstation will be capable of something looking a lot better than BF3, as mentioned consoles should be made to last until the year 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roskelld Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 "hardware company AMD has also issued a release boasting of its support for Nintendo's new Wii U console. While the company of course refrains from posting hard statistics, it does say it has provided a "custom AMD Radeon HD GPU" for the system." Makes those leaked specs seem more real now; although it probably wasn't a difficult bet, what with Nintendo and AMD's history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSlugFormerlyKnownAsNap Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Guys, we now have the Wii U thread and the Wii HD thread both about the same. Mind if we lock this one and continue in the new Wii U thread? That one has all the specs and vids and stuff in the first post so might be a better starting point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roskelld Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 "Wii U Discs Will Be 25GB In Size Stephen Totilo — In a wide-ranging interview with Kotaku regarding the new Wii U console, one of Nintendo's chief game designers, Katsuya Eguchi, confirmed that the system's proprietary disc format will hold 25 Gigabytes of data. That squares with our own reporting from before E3 and puts Nintendo in a good place to run games that fill up a single-layer 25GB Blu-Ray disc, the format used by current console king of large game discs, the PlayStation 3. Eguchi declined to comment on our report, from the same people who told us about the 25GB, that the system's internal flash memory is 8GB. Earlier today, a Nintendo rep explained that the new console will support external USB drives, for added storage capacity. We'll have tons more about Wii U, including a lot of insights from Eguchi about what makes this console special for Nintendo, in the coming days." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoothy Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Guys, we now have the Wii U thread and the Wii HD thread both about the same. Mind if we lock this one and continue in the new Wii U thread? That one has all the specs and vids and stuff in the first post so might be a better starting point. I'd say merge and place the first post details in the first post of this thread. The Wii U was being discussed in this thread far longer than that other thread. "Wii U Discs Will Be 25GB In Size Stephen Totilo — In a wide-ranging interview with Kotaku regarding the new Wii U console, one of Nintendo's chief game designers, Katsuya Eguchi, confirmed that the system's proprietary disc format will hold 25 Gigabytes of data. That squares with our own reporting from before E3 and puts Nintendo in a good place to run games that fill up a single-layer 25GB Blu-Ray disc, the format used by current console king of large game discs, the PlayStation 3. Eguchi declined to comment on our report, from the same people who told us about the 25GB, that the system's internal flash memory is 8GB. Earlier today, a Nintendo rep explained that the new console will support external USB drives, for added storage capacity. We'll have tons more about Wii U, including a lot of insights from Eguchi about what makes this console special for Nintendo, in the coming days." So it's a Blu-ray disc they'll be using then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Cochese Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 So it's a Blu-ray disc they'll be using then? No, it will be what the guy you quoted said it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSlugFormerlyKnownAsNap Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 I'd say merge and place the first post details in the first post of this thread. The Wii U was being discussed in this thread far longer than that other thread. It's not possible to make the first post of the other thread the first post of this thread so unless Ghost intends to update the first post of this thread regularly there will be no updates. Anyway, if people feel there are internet credits at stake and rather have messy cross thread posting about the same subject I'll politely bow out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoothy Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 It's not possible to make the first post of the other thread the first post of this thread so unless Ghost intends to update the first post of this thread regularly there will be no updates. Well, it is possible because it was done to my boxing thread in Off Topic. No, it will be what the guy you quoted said it is. He only comes up with a vague "proprietary 25GB disc" mention though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deKay Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 He only comes up with a vague "proprietary 25GB disc" mention though. That's not vague. That's exactly what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Mike Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Well, it is possible because it was done to my boxing thread in Off Topic. No it isn't. Earliest posts go first in the merged thread. So either someone copied and pasted all the content across before, or someone found another, earlier, post of yours and merged it to the thread too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoothy Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 But Blu-ray is proprietary though. What I was asking is whether it's Blu-ray or something Nintendo cooked up, as the statement doesn't explicity say that. Reason being the quote also says that the "proprietary" statement squares with their view that it's a Blu-ray disc. No it isn't. Earliest posts go first in the merged thread. So either someone copied and pasted all the content across before, or someone found another, earlier, post of yours and merged it to the thread too. Well that person in the boxing thread had explicitly asked me if they could take over my thread, I gave permission and they had somehow inserted a post before mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSlugFormerlyKnownAsNap Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Yes, that "somehow" is the process Uncle Mike described. It's not really an easy thing, hence the suggestion to just use the other thread as everything in this thread posted before 5pm yesterday is outdated now anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deKay Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 The discs are "12cm 25GB iDensity". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoothy Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Yes, that "somehow" is the process Uncle Mike described. It's not really an easy thing, hence the suggestion to just use the other thread as everything in this thread posted before 5pm yesterday is outdated now anyway. Fair enough, had an inkling it might have been. I knew it was possible though. The discs are "12cm 25GB iDensity". Ah cool, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revlob Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Just get Sarge to link to this thread in the first post of the other, and stop posting in this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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