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As much as I want Half Life 3, I really can't see it being the third reveal. A game announcement just doesn't feel right to complete the story they're telling this week, I'm not sure Source 2 would even feel quite right for that matter. My money's on the controller. If it's a unique enough design, and all things are pointing to it being so, it'll definitely warrant it's own moment in the spotlight.

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I'm expecting "Hey look at this controller".

I'm hoping that there's another announcement to do with the sun: Source 2, HL3, L4D3 or something.

I will be disappointed if it's "hey, we made a controller" without any details or pictures. Enough with the vagueness Valve!

Anyway, Paradox confirms they think Steambox is great and they're going to build Linux native versions of Crusader Kings II and Europa Universalis IV.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/09/26/paradox-steamos-is-a-great-thing-for-pc-gaming-confirms-ck2-and-eu4-will-run-natively/

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The thing is, if they don't announce something relatively MEGATON or at least available sooner than the past two, I do think there is a danger of people just getting pissed off with it all. Several people have said as much in this thread (even though they do manage to pull us right back in) and this may be the last time for them to cry wolf.

I still b3li3v3 though, obv.

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Looking at the timing of these announcements, are they trying to disrupt next gen console sales? As these are 'light' tannouncements without the pictures, more details and or on the stage of a games show. Makes me think why are they announcing now and not at e3 next year when they will have something more substantial and more mainstream exposure. Outside of forums like this I don't think many people know who Steam are.

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A mate of mine was saying this. That he doesn't understand who they're trying to sell to because everyone who wants steam already has it, and casuals don't know about it. My answer was that steam grows by an order of magnitude every year. And that at one point we laughed at the idea of Sony disrupting the console market, and again when Microsoft threw their hat in the ring.

Besides, steam has always been about insidious growth and niche filling, rather than mainstream explosive make or break launches.

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I don't see how Valve and it's partners will be able to release a box that will perform close to or better than the next gen gen consoles for anywhere near their price. People might blink at the price of an Xbox One but £400 does not go far when you are building a PC. Even when you take away the cost of Windows it still won't get much.

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As NinjaSeb says, give it a year or two and a modestly priced PC will overtake what the PS4 and Xbone can provide for the same money. Even extrapolating the rapid growth of tablets and even phones shows they'll overtake the consoles power wise before the generation is out.

The consoles are aware of this, of course, there's a reason they went mid-range, easy to port to and stuck a load of focus on their services. We're in the final gen.

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As NinjaSeb says, give it a year or two and a modestly priced PC will overtake what the PS4 and Xbone can provide for the same money. Even extrapolating the rapid growth of tablets and even phones shows they'll overtake the consoles power wise before the generation is out.

The consoles are aware of this, of course, there's a reason they went mid-range, easy to port to and stuck a load of focus on their services. We're in the final gen.

Wholly agree.

If this gen lasts 10 years, modular devices and/or those on a quicker upgrade cycle will render them archaic mid-cycle. You don't need to buy a top-end one. In a couple of years for the price of a console you'll be able to buy one which easily outperforms the PS4/Bone. In five years, £400 will buy you a device that stomps them for performance. 7 years, the low-end ones will do the job, and in 10 years time the phone in your pocket will squirt PS4 quality visuals direct to your TV anyhow.

I hope it's a controller, but only if its something which solves playing mouse and keyboard games in front of a TV.

If it's just a normal controller, don't really care. Are they really going to come up with something meaningfully better than the 360/XBO/PS4 controller?

I sort-of hope it's some insane spruce goose folly, a giant lapboard with thumbsticks or something :lol:

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I hope it's a controller, but only if its something which solves playing mouse and keyboard games in front of a TV.

If it's just a normal controller, don't really care. Are they really going to come up with something meaningfully better than the 360/XBO/PS4 controller?

This is what I'm hoping for. If they can create a device that somehow can make m/kb functionality more comfortable and easy for the living room space and better console controllers then they win.

An upgradable Steambox running, steam OS with a living room friendly controller and Halflife 3 built in (think the equivalent of snail maze game on the Sega master system) is pure win.

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Maybe, maybe.

Dekay, today will be the controller but there MIGHT be something else in the sun thing on the page. Or it might be nothing.

I'm going with this idea. Today will be the controller, revealing a new countdown that'll be what we've really been waiting for. They should just have the countdown with a picture of the crowbar.

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http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/09/26/microsoft-watching-valves-steam-machine-plans-with-great-interest

In an interview with Eurogamer, Microsoft corporate vice president Phil Harrison was asked about this week's announcements by Valve, which have so far revealed a Linux-based operating system called SteamOS and prototype hardware designed for that OS. With the news still being so fresh -- and one announcement still to come -- Harrison wouldn't talk much about it, though he did say, "The announcement was only made last night so I'm still studying all the facts Valve has released. But Valve is a very impressive company, and obviously we're going to be watching what they do with great interest."

Earlier in the interview, Harrison discussed the perception that video game consoles are doomed. Obviously, working for a company that is weeks away from launching a new console, he doesn't share this opinion, and he pointed to figures about how each subsequent console generation has been bigger than the one before it. With Valve now talking about what, in a way, amounts to a video game console, Harrison sees even more reason to believe consoles have a strong future.

"I think the death of the video game console was prematurely announced," he said. "Clearly there is a lot of excitement around gaming in the living room on the biggest screen in the house, often times connected to a great sound system and creating that real intensely high quality game experience with a very powerful CPU and a very powerful GPU. Our point of view, clearly, is that Xbox One is the best incarnation of that, but competition is good!"

Harrison also addressed the similarities between these newly announced Steam Machines and the original vision Microsoft outlined for Xbox One -- which is to say, a game-playing box that connects to your television and has a decidedly digital-oriented focus. When asked if the reaction to Xbox One would have been different if it had been presented without a disc drive, Harrison echoed what Microsoft has been saying in recent months, which is that it's good to present gamers with a choice.

"We've given players a choice, and we think that choice is really important," he said. "We've given players a choice to purchase and enjoy games on the format that is most convenient to them. If you purchase games on disc there are certain advantages and benefits that gamers are used to and comfortable with, based on previous generations, and we will continue that on Xbox One. If you purchase games digitally, there are a bunch of additional benefits that come with that, particularly around your content showing up wherever you are, rather than being linked to that particular console or that particular disc. We think that choice is great.

"I'm glad we made those changes because it allows the most people possible to enjoy our console wherever they live and whatever the access they have to whatever kind of connectivity they have. That is the right approach."

Steam Machines will be arriving for sale in 2014, with a limited beta set to launch later this year. Xbox One launches on November 22 in North America and parts of Europe.

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