Ultra Street Fighter IV

[HarryBizzle]

Are you about daytime today in general? I'm off work with a bad back and conveniently enough the comfiest place for me to sit right now is my office chair

edit - only slept about 2 hours due to aforementioned back so may be a little.. lacking in reactions!

I will be for the next two weeks, so more than happy to play a few games. As I say, though, I'm not very good so if I don't give you a very good game, apologies in advance.

Also, what are people finding lag to be like? my connection is about 10Mbps and has a ping of 30ms on Speedtest but I'm finding it to be pretty bad - I'm trying to figure out if it's mine or the other player.

Gonna ring up my ISP and try to get fiber hooked up today, anyway.

[robdood]

As long as you have a full signal / green connection indicator you should be fine. I would never play on anything less though, the lag becomes noticeable on yellow and unbearable on orange. Red is just.. FML.

[ah]

30ms should be okay for ping. 10mbps should be okay for speed too - bandwidth isn't really that important to be honest (it's just sending controller input data), so fibre optic connection might help or it might not. If other people are using your connection at the same time as you're playing then it will definitely make a difference but other than that it's not guaranteed you'll see an improvement.

The one big thing I would say is always use a wired connection if you can because for me it made a big difference.

[Nate Dogg III]

Do we know when they're announcing the final Ultra character yet?

None, but it's TGS in a couple of weeks, which is a possibility. I assume the game's coming out in February, though, so they might wait a bit.

[HarryBizzle]

Thanks for the tips. Will definitely start using a wired connection.

Had some great games with dood. I was expecting him to absolutely flatten me but I did well against him until he went all

on me and brought out his Chun Li. As I said to him I haven't fought a Chun Li since the original SFIV, so honestly didn't really have a bloody clue - was blocking low when I should have been high and vice versa, etc. No idea how to punish his EX lightning kicks and oh my god, that effing Ultra.

Need to read up on ol' Chunners and play him some more. I tried learning her for a while when I first started playing SF to see what charge characters are like, but I've forgotten everything. I like her though. I'm thinking about trying to learn someone new as when my friend and I get together to play it's just Ryu/Ken vs Akuma and we want to diversify a bit. I've been thinking about learning Zangief/Chun Li/Makoto.

Any tips on someone relatively easy to get to grips with who isn't just a shoto reskin?

[Nate Dogg III]

You can't punish EX Lighting Kicks. It's very hard to punish any EX move apart from dragon punches because they tend to have quicker recovery than normal special moves to justify the meter cost in using them.

The only non-shoto I can play to any kind of reasonable standard is Blanka and even then I only have one combo that I drop more often than not. Chun's worth playing around with because she has a non-standard set of tools and is as such heavily dependent on footsies and that's a good thing to learn. Fei Long's a lot of fun, too.

[robdood]

The reason I love Chun is cos she isn't as precision-heavy for inputs as the other characters.

Go do some study; I'll give you this one though.. You can't punish ex legs it's safe on block and on hit iirc.

Was a good little set, its been while since I fought a shoto that throws out dragon punches at EVERY reversal opportunity!!

[HarryBizzle]

Usually I see how it goes and if the guy's not learning, I'll keep it up. By the last couple of rounds though, I was, as I said, just making extremely bad decisions. I don't know why, but I got into a bad habit of piano-ing shoryukens on wakeup and whatnot and when things start going wrong, they just start popping out and I'm sat there thinking "WTF ARE YOU DOING!"

Shamefur dispray.

[imp]

Sometimes you just gotta represent the SRK. Make the attacker start to doubt they can pressure you on your wakeup without a legit setup. And Sometimes you just gotta piss off Choo. That usually backfires though cos he learns quick and then chooses Sakura.

[Jonster]

I'm reluctant to get the new Pokeymans as I always seem to get a little obsessive with the game for 2-3 months and then not touch it again.

And not touch anything else during those 2-3 months.

And visit Pokeymans wikis :-(

[Jonster]

Anyways might anyone be about for some PC Fighter tonight? I should be about depending on when I get out of work.

[imp]

I will fight you on PC tonight! Post in here if I'm afk on steam.

[Jonster]

Excellent

I AM GOING TO PUNCH YOU IN THE FACE!

Although you'll probably focus it and punch me in the face

[HarryBizzle]

Jonster beat dood. I beat jonster.

Therefore: Harry > dood.

[joeplus]

God tier trolling:

[Jonster]

Jonster beat dood. I beat jonster.

Therefore: Harry > dood.

I did also beat you in a match Then dood beat me

I just don't know what to believe anymore.

[HarryBizzle]

NANANA CAN'T HEAR YOU

(I'm jumping back on if anyone's game)

[Jonster]

GGs Harry, some really close Ryu mirrors there

I jumped into ranked with my 0BP Ryu to see how much I'd get slaughtered. I lost to the 73rd best Gief, but then beat the 991st best Yun, so now I feel godlike*.

*But only until I play someone else

[HarryBizzle]

My favourite screen of the day.

I had this awesome fight against an Akuma today, where I basically read him to death. Three awesome reads, including where I basically smashed his face when he tried to pull his super and ultra with a FA and EX hurricane. Felt bloody awesome.

Is there an easy way to record and upload fights on PC without buying FRAPS?

[joeplus]

A mixed evening for me. Got back up to 1300+ PP with a streak of mainly wins, but during that I fell prey to some serious Akuma bullshit. Like not even vortexed, just random air fireballs and demon flips. Then just now a Spanish person and a French person who were both better than me kept joining my game after beating me multiple times so I left in a huff.

I did land cr.hp xx hp Soul Reflect FADC Soul Throw online a few times this week though, which is kind of a waste of meter but very nice.

[ah]

Is there an easy way to record and upload fights on PC without buying FRAPS?

Wise man once say, go to replay channel then battle log, select fight from history (last 30 fights are stored), point camera at screen and press record.

[mayor_mike_haggar]

I did a bit of rose last night. Some wild ibuki did a full screen ex penguin kick when she had no health, so I mashed out ultra 2 and then flailed on taunt and got a nice during ko taunt. No ragemail

I did a bit of rose last night. Some wild ibuki did a full screen ex penguin kick when she had no health, so I mashed out ultra 2 and then flailed on taunt and got a nice during ko taunt. No ragemail

[Plopboy]

Slightly entertaining for the afternoon

[nuskool]

I've been without a stick for a few months so I've not been playing at all. So i'm now with stick so I've been playing a bit more the last couple of nights... with pretty mixed success. I had a player who had like 3 times points as me rage quit just when I was about to finish him... despite losing out on the points it still made me smile. But equally a lost badly to a D rank Ryu

So I decided to follow a few people here in trying to play through the entire cast and level up each character... started with Ken which is a bit of mistake as I play him like Ryu (and as a result am less successful). Might give Cody a blast.

END REPORT

[Uzi]

Anyways might anyone be about for some PC Fighter tonight? I should be about depending on when I get out of work.

Im home tonight and not been SF in ages. I won't play if Imp is there too just cos he shattered my tourny run of 1 WIN

EDIT- Fuck sake- u posted on thursday lol

[Jonster]

I could be about later. If you see me on Steam drop me a message

In other news I've been playing BlazBlue on the Vita at work during breaks. I forgot how much I liked that and Nu's combos still look fantastic! (even if they are just D )

[hughes]

When playing people online (the AI never does this even on hardest) what do you do against relentless pressure? This might be the kind of situation a lot of you don't find yourself in due to clever timing and spacing, but what should I (ryu) do when someone has me in the corner and they're mixing me up good and proper, whether I play it defensive or agressive I still get pummelled, if I'm against someone who "likes pressing buttons" as they say I'm assuming the invincibility of DP would be the answer? Too unsafe? Baitable and punishable? Would focus be a no no? Two jabs would go through it.

Man there's a lot of depth to this game.

[imp]

Unfortunately there's no catch-all answer to your problem, it all depends on the specifics of how you're being pressured and by what character. Generally, if you have two bars of super meter, you can try representing the DP and FADC away to safety, but really the only answer is to gain more experience, so you can try and learn to recognise the player/character's intents at the specific point in the match you are being pressured and how to react accordingly.

[hughes]

Damn, I was hoping there was something obvious or otherwise that I'd missed.

I've played a couple of B rank balrogs online and they're just so good at putting me in a corner and keeping me there.

[JLM]

Yeah, Balrog's corner pressure is very tough to deal with even when you're used to it. He has a very strong jab/tick throw game and can apply frustratingly safe pressure. It's usually just a case of trying to find out the opponent's rhythm. There is only so long an opponent can maintain continuous, air tight pressure, so it's a case of blocking, tech-ing as necessary and then learning to spot when it's your turn to press a button. Watching a replay of one of your matches would be helpful as we could point out specific instances where your opponent's "turn" ended and you could have interrupted.

On wake up you can definitely go to SRK a few times against an aggressive Balrog too as his punishes without charge or without super/ultra aren't terribly damaging. I don't normally recommend waking up with jab DP, but against charge characters it can be handy as it gives them less time to charge and get a stronger punish. You also need to do it against Balrog aa 'rog players will go in with jabs/tick throws/counter hits all day and you need to let them know you won't let them for free. Mix it up and try to read the opponent's mood. In some instances it might be worth waking up with DP a few times in a row just to earn some lighter pressure in future when the opponent sees how willing you are to do it. They may even categorise you as a scrub who is going to do it every single time, and this can be very useful if you get a read on that.

Another general tip against Balrog is to make sure you don't let him in for free and put you in that corner position without a fight. For example, a lot of 'rog players will forego footsies and just barge their way in with rush punches. The straight rush, the upper and the low can all be focus absorbed and get you a free crumple and punish. If they start throwing out the smash or the overhead to break focus, the trade of with them is that they're less safe even at longer ranges and you can block and punish with reversal SRK. You can also neutral jump to anticipate a rush punch and punish it as he passes under you. The Balrog can start using the rushing upper and armoured rushes to beat this, but make them prove that they are willing/able to switch up their approach by mixing up your counters.

If at all possible it's worth holding onto super against Rog too. You can punish any rush punch (aside from EX upper) on block with it and you can also super a blocked sweep.

On 'rog's wake up if he has no meter you can do crouching medium kick and make wake up headbutt whiff and then get a punish. Once you've shown that you can do this, they'll more than likely go to EX rush punshes on wake up when they do have meter. Throwing beats all of these. It's also worth crossing him up quite often to disrupt his charge and further limit his options. Balrog's wake up game is not the best, but a lot of players let him get away with murder and if you don't know the match up specific stuff it can seem impossible to pressure him.

This turned into general Ryu vs Rog ramblings but I may as well post it now eh.