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[Marvel stuff]

Viscant wrote a thing where he is similarly conservative in what he'd change, with a couple of differences in what he'd alter:

http://www.brokentier.com/blogs/news/8346848-proposed-umvc3-changes-by-viscant

The only really different thing from what we both posted is that he thinks TAC infinites are obviously getting removed. And he wrote an interesting breakdown of the TAC mechanic, concluding with the suggestion that it stays in place but that there's a much higher penalty when your opponent breaks your TAC attempt, which I think we've talked about before and wished was a thing.

Anyhow, I'm switching my team to Shuma/something/something. I haven't even played the game since I bought Shuma but I'm pretty sure it's going to be top-tier.

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I played some Ranked on PSN last night and it was pretty much Ryu, Ken and Akuma all day. Hnngh.



I am crushed that Donut is no longer on Live and imp will not bother renewing either. I know I hardly ever play and were it not for Netflix needing a Live sub (not impressed) I would let mine expire too but it's sad that those guys won't be about in the future.

Crushed? Damn. I mean, I'd understand miffed / mild disappointment, but crushed? Holy shit, I'm feeling pretty fucking guilty right now :'(

Guys*! J-Zone is coming out of retirement to record a new album!

http://www.egotripland.com/j-zone-new-album-peter-pan-syndrome/


* Donut

Nice! I popped my head into the Hip-Hoppenin' thread on here the other day and I was shocked / surprised / insanely jealous to see pics of you at the Ultramagnetic MC's gig! Nice work.

Oh, and your video on the previous page was also excellent - I neglected to mention it before because I hadn't refreshed the thread when I hit reply. I'm so, so sorry.

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Yes!

Rumoured Mak changes for Ultra, stoled from GAF. Eeeeee.

U2 fire ball invulnerable
U1 damage nerf
1000 life
Fukiage hits grounded opponents
Larger cross up hit box on j.mk
EX Oroshi throw invulnerable

V-Ryu on the changes.

"For now, only EX version hits grounded opponent.
It seems to be VERY strong, since you can do:

- f+LP > ex fuki, or crLK/crMP os ex fuki.
- Jump attack OS ex fuki
- air to air > land > ex fuki crossdown mixuo
- ex fuki > ultra2

Some crazy and unexpected stuff there, namely EX Fuki hitting grounded opponents and getting 1000 life back. Bigger crossup hitbox on j.mk is lovely too.

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Is the startup of EX Fukiage projectile invincible? Or does the dash go under them? I've been trying to figure out whether or not it could be used as a punish for Ryu players' unsafe cr.mk x fireball blockstring enders.

All those fancy high damage OS options sound lovely and everything but the main benefit of it hitting grounded opponents for me is going to be those times where I panic and mess up my HP x EX Hayate, punch the air all flashy and yellow and eat an Ultra. This way my mistake looks fancy!

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Good god I need some help with the Guile Makato matchup. Granted everything feels sluggish on PSN, had a few times when even normal buttons just didn't come out, like a jump in when Donut was dizzy, but I think that's cos my ps3 is through HDMI. However I just can't keep her out. Introduced st.mp does quite well against ax kick at certain ranges, as does st.mk. But at close range nothing beats it. It gets her in or does repeated chip damage, and the amount of times she punished my focus attack on HIT was unreal.

I hate her. I really, really hate her and the idea of her being buffed is sickening.

I really need some help against her. I must get better at this match.

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I am crushed that Donut is no longer on Live and imp will not bother renewing either. I know I hardly ever play and were it not for Netflix needing a Live sub (not impressed) I would let mine expire too but it's sad that those guys won't be about in the future.

:)

I feel alright about this; I don't really have much time to play when most rllmuk play goes on due to flatmate circumstances these days, and I'm sure when everyone's made the jump to the next generation we'll all be playing together again. This isn't goodbye Cale, it's only a Nagoshi-style "see you!"

(I guess I better start working on an open world crime simulator series.)

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Those Makoto changes would be delicious, though I honestly think it's more than she needs. EX Oroshi being throw invulnerable as well would make it like Viper's EX seismo before it quite rightly got nerfed. She currently has mediocre wake up options but at least she has a wheel of options to choose from. I think her wake up as it is now is strong enough for a character who can kill off two or three openings

She is massively under-represented in tournaments but I don't think it's because the character is weak or needs big improvements. In the right hands she's competitive and I don't think a player even needs Haitani's admittedly superhuman ability to go far with her in tournament. She's just a bit unwieldy and odd to use and there are more immediate and obvious choices. People are lazy but that doesn't mean the character is weak.

Allystah, yeah, we have definitely grumbled about the TAC risk/reward before and suggested that the attacker should face a bigger penalty if the opponent guesses right.

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Good god I need some help with the Guile Makato matchup. Granted everything feels sluggish on PSN, had a few times when even normal buttons just didn't come out, like a jump in when Donut was dizzy, but I think that's cos my ps3 is through HDMI. However I just can't keep her out. Introduced st.mp does quite well against ax kick at certain ranges, as does st.mk. But at close range nothing beats it. It gets her in or does repeated chip damage, and the amount of times she punished my focus attack on HIT was unreal.

I hate her. I really, really hate her and the idea of her being buffed is sickening.

I really need some help against her. I must get better at this match.

The best plan is to keep her the fuck out, obvs. She's pretty screwed against a super solid dry zoning game. You could probably do with throwing out more footsie normals when I'm trying to get in, or even flash kick FADC if you have the meter. Instant axe kicks can be focused too, don't forget. There's usually enough time to get a crumple in too :(

Oh, and the idea of her being buffed is actually AMAZING. Sorry. I've mained her since Super, where she was rubbish. She had an entirely useless dragon punch, how good is that?

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Allystah, yeah, we have definitely grumbled about the TAC risk/reward before and suggested that the attacker should face a bigger penalty if the opponent guesses right.

By the way, I've picked my new Marvel team based entirely on "Shumadoomakuma" being hilarious to say. Still haven't put the game in the drive so it is a purely conceptual team at the moment.

I did get five games of Street Fighter with Iggy Flat-Top earlier this evening to test my new rural internet connection. It seems okay I guess, though I seem to lose to Guile more than I used to when I had 100Mb/s.

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The best plan is to keep her the fuck out, obvs. She's pretty screwed against a super solid dry zoning game. You could probably do with throwing out more footsie normals when I'm trying to get in, or even flash kick FADC if you have the meter. Instant axe kicks can be focused too, don't forget. There's usually enough time to get a crumple in too :(

Oh, and the idea of her being buffed is actually AMAZING. Sorry. I've mained her since Super, where she was rubbish. She had entirely useless dragon punch, how good is that?

Don't be sorry dude. I want buffs too. :)

I just really really struggle to keep her and you out. One whiffed AA and it's game over, currently. There's a guy in Brighton plays her quite well and it's exactly the same offline.

I want more Mak matches. I MUST get this figured out. I do train against her, honest.

I did FK FADC you a few times, but on block you lunge punched me. :(

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By the way, I've picked my new Marvel team based entirely on "Shumadoomakuma" being hilarious to say. Still haven't put the game in the drive so it is a purely conceptual team at the moment.

I did get five games of Street Fighter with Iggy Flat-Top earlier this evening to test my new rural internet connection. It seems okay I guess, though I seem to lose to Guile more than I used to when I had 100Mb/s.

I might change my name to Iggy Flat-Top. :)

Yeah they good games dude. I think a combination of a little new anti Rufus tech and your lack of recent gameage were more likely. Need to get back on the horse. Also you're generally my only daytime play buddy, so glad you're back in the fight.

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She is massively under-represented in tournaments but I don't think it's because the character is weak or needs big improvements. In the right hands she's competitive and I don't think a player even needs Haitani's admittedly superhuman ability to go far with her in tournament. She's just a bit unwieldy and odd to use and there are more immediate and obvious choices. People are lazy but that doesn't mean the character is weak.

Yeah, that's true. Throw invincible EX Oroshi is nice though. No more Dudley corner fuckeries, maybe. The health buff might be a bit too much. She's definitely going to be a tad bit scarier now.

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As a general note, the PC version of AE goes on sale for about a fiver every few months and pretty much all arcade sticks work on PC. And since the game is GFWL all your friends are already on your friends list. Get the PC version- it is what the COOL KIDS are doing. Me, Imp, Choo etc play on there pretty regularly.

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