Ultra Street Fighter IV

[imp]

I like Hakan.

I also like wild, battling trucks to the tunes of:

Oh my god that is wild. I imagine two trucks as the snow falls, two blades drawn. The howl of a wolf under the moon. The flutter of a fan falling to the soft, peaty earth as a woman gasps at the horror of what is to commence. A clash. The sound of sharp metal on ceramic. Seconds of ruptured oil and petroleum in long, hot jets hanging across the midnight sky before spattering down upon the earth, and a dream, forever broken.

Okay that could go on for days.

Also Human made a game about battling trucks? Human as in the guys who made S.O.S. and Clock Tower?

[IgTerminals]

So, attempting to step up my game, not least cos got Tourney coming up in couple of weeks.

So how do you guys practice and train your footsies?

I practice stepping into and out of range of different characters pokes and moves, but have intense trouble making this work in a match. According to Maj's Footsies Handbook, this is referred to as Footsies 101, yet I still can't make this work for me.

The reason I downloaded HDR is because I kept reading that ST will teach you good footsies. But why?

I'd appreciate any help and advice you guys have.

Unfortunately my Mic jack has chooses the perfect time to die...

[joffocakes]

One aspect of good footsies is staying just out of your max range for the particular poke you're using and buffering in a special move because that way there's no risk of it being blocked; the only way the opponent will come into range is by moving foward into it. It you miss then you miss, if it connects you get the special move/super for some extra damage. I guess this is less useful as Guile than some other characters though; would guile use his long crouching medium kick with a flash kick buffered? You'd risk losing charge for that I guess.

JLM will probably have millions of excellent words about it. Decent footsies and zoning are two major weaknesses of mine.

[IgTerminals]

Ok, thanks for the advice dude.

The longest poke Guile has that can cancel into special is cr.Mp. Although his far st.hp and sweep can both cancel into super. His cr.mk isn't cancelable. I do buffer an SB with cr.Mp, but opponents are relatively close to be hit by cr.Mp.

So how would I effectively practice footsies? Can it be properly trained, or just ground out in matches?

[joffocakes]

You could record the CPU to loop walk forward, cr.mk, walk forward, cr.mk, walk forward, cr.hk as Ryu, maybe, then stay out of range and try counter-pokes/blocking? Try a few different punishes to get a feel for speed and ranges that way. Does that b+lk knee hop Guile does avoid Ryu's cr.mk entirely? I dunno if it does enough hitstun to follow up, though. I really know very little about Guile.Hegg's Guile is amazingly solid, but he's quiet these days.

[Camel]

Hegg is secretly training a wild Rufus.

[IgTerminals]

Actually not totally sure bout bazooka knee. His Sobat clears Ryu's cr.mk but also misses Ryu unless done extremely late, but run risk of being blocked then.

I'll try that later in training mode. :-)

[joffocakes]

I am currently doing that thing where I will have some free time to play games when I get home and I fully intend to use it on either Anarchy Reigns or Xenoblade but I will almost certainly be on Street Fighter instead for some fighting.

[IgTerminals]

Signed up for tourney in Brighton in 2 weeks. Only 16 places, all local competition aaand...

MCZ Mago.

Don't think I'm even in with a chance, somehow...

[joffocakes]

Haha, woah. Good luck with it! Tournaments are fun. I doubt anyone wild will be at the scottish one at the end of march. We might get Ryan Hart I guess. And joffocakes, who'll be there for the StreetPass hits.

I'm street fighting now, sirs, for at least another hour. I ate a piece 'n' bacon with butter AND brown sauce plus I have a big mug o' tea ready. There's no stopping me.

On a Street Fighter related note, I've been buying a lot of Kale recently. He's good in soups! Like a sort of half spinach, half broccoli creature. Delicious.

[ah]

He's excellent in a smoothie as well, believe it or not. Try throwing in a few leaves with yer summer berries and maybe a dollop of vegan yoghurt.

[IgTerminals]

Haha, woah. Good luck with it! Tournaments are fun. I doubt anyone wild will be at the scottish one at the end of march. We might get Ryan Hart I guess. And joffocakes, who'll be there for the StreetPass hits.

I'm street fighting now, sirs, for at least another hour. I ate a piece 'n' bacon with butter AND brown sauce plus I have a big mug o' tea ready. There's no stopping me.

On a Street Fighter related note, I've been buying a lot of Kale recently. He's good in soups! Like a sort of half spinach, half broccoli creature. Delicious.

Was just way too tired and tender from the weekend to actually fight people in the end, so did couple hours practice. Did your Ryu recording suggestion to help train footsies, works quite well. In training. We'll see if I can even begin to carry it over to a real match.

If I can I'll be a happy man. All other fundamentals I've pulled off in some form or another on more than one occasion. Basic footsies have so far elluded me.

[mayor_mike_haggar]

what on earth is mago doing in Brighton. stag do? gay clubbing scene? visiting the pier?

[IgTerminals]

Kicking our arses.

MCZ Mago is on the signup sheet.

It could obviously be a trick...

[mayor_mike_haggar]

the last time I was in Brighton I was furiously playing air hockey and somehow managed to ping a wildly high velocity puck DIRECTLY into the eye of a nearby 9 year old girl, who was stood next to her unsmiling tattooed mountainous hulk of a father. god that was a fun afternoon.

[joffocakes]

Just had some excellent but all to brief games with Qazi before I had to go make food. He properly beat me up in an Ibuki mirror too, which was terrifying, haha. Some double-random Hakan as well. Street Fighter is good.

[IgTerminals]

the last time I was in Brighton I was furiously playing air hockey and somehow managed to ping a wildly high velocity puck DIRECTLY into the eye of a nearby 9 year old girl, who was stood next to her unsmiling tattooed mountainous hulk of a father. god that was a fun afternoon.

I don't think either of them are still there, dude.

It may be safe to return.

[geldra]

I have some 100% bona fide awesome Street Fighting related rata-tat-tat winging its way to me as we speak

Said ratatat:

Obviously its hidden under my desk away from the red meat eating males Grrrrr in the office.

[Camel]

Oh shit. How much did it set you back Geldra?

[geldra]

About £160 when you factor in shipping. Its costing my diginty quite a bit.

[Plopboy]

Said ratatat:

Obviously its hidden under my desk away from the red meat eating males Grrrrr in the office.

Where, how, must have, not seen one for sale, dribble, dribble, arrrrgghhhh.

[Camel]

For the sake of my own dignity I should probably pretend that I'm not massively jealous of your videogame fighting stick covered in images of cartoon characters aimed squarely at little girls and featuring quite a large dollop of pink, but I can't. I am massively jealous.

[Plopboy]

Its costing my diginty quite a bit.

Nonsense, I'd carry it proudly round the office, with a knowing smile saying 'yeah that's right I'm Mr Cool'

[geldra]

Not here, any colour brighter than dark brown is like a crime against humanity.

(it was sourced via mr ratkos off here who was an absolute star. HMRC werent stars though, boooo)

[joffocakes]

What stick is it? Is it that Sanrio one? I really want that too.

[Plopboy]

Yes Joffo it is the Kitty stick, the pinkest and best stick ever.

[Camel]

Yep.

Hello Kicky.

[geldra]

Where, how, must have, not seen one for sale, dribble, dribble, arrrrgghhhh.

Jello Kitty?

[jiroczech]

This is old, but new to me via metafilter

Make sure you've got annotations on to use the menu thingy

[Plopboy]

Just managed a couple of games online which is amazing since the 360 keeps disconnecting (it just did a system update so I'm blaming that) but I did manage this.

if only because I was going for both the aa ultra, then cross up splash and you don't know how many times that has failed Also you get to see her trainers in the ultra anim