Ultra Street Fighter IV

[Qazimod]

Fuck's sake, when was everyone playing? I was running a public lobby last night because I didn't know what was happening.

[joffocakes]

I jumped on at about ten pm, for a single hour. Couldn't get anywhere near that imp; he might as well have been using Ghost Rider against my poor Dan.

[jiroczech]

I was on between 11pm - 1:30am ish. Not. Had. Enough. Sleep.

[imp]

Oh god I just found out about the double fine thing and gave them all my money.

[mayor_mike_haggar]

Your fight money?

[joffocakes]

Yes. I haven't donated yet, but I will. I'm hoping to maybe convince the lady that the $250 one is a good birthday present. I'll probably get the £100 one, because I'll never be in a game's credits otherwise.

You should offer to localize localise it.

[mayor_mike_haggar]

It looks like they're already over the 400k goal, too.

[joffocakes]

Yeah; they're at $590,000 and it's not even been a day! 33 days to go. I am currently dancing the grimmest fandango in celebration.

[Nate Dogg III]

Yes, it's the best. I hurriedly wrote some stuff about it: http://www.edge-onli...-kill-publisher

Anyway, sorry to go off topic but, while I'll be online tonight, I'll be in ranked or versus because cale is round. I am hoping for FT10 revenge against his Makoto with my shiny new Emo Ryu, by which I mean I hope to lose 10-3 instead of 10-2. Baby steps.

[Lyrical Donut]

Yeah, that Double Fine thing is awesome. The dedicated thread on here for it? Hmm, not so much.

[imp]

Haha, exactly why I posted in here instead.

I think somebody should probably know this, but I'm sure I've read that one or more of those Tokimeki Memorial games have been funded in the same manner by fans in Japan a few years back? Except the weird thing is, I'm sure Konami publish those games.

[Matt G]

Topics this thread is the best at:

• Double Fine point and click games
  
• Quarrel
  
• Mexican food
  
• Marvel Vs. Capcom
  
• ...err, something else, Fighting Streets or whatever it's called.
  

[Lyrical Donut]

Anyway, sorry to go off topic but, while I'll be online tonight, I'll be in ranked or versus because cale is round. I am hoping for FT10 revenge against his Makoto with my shiny new Emo Ryu, by which I mean I hope to lose 10-3 instead of 10-2. Baby steps.

Right, so...

Focus dash through fireballs that are just out of sweep range, throw (or Karakusa if you're feeling frisky).

When you're on him f.mp > f.lp (rinse / repeat) is a great way to get your opponent (including Nate) to press buttons / go for reversals. Once you do have them scared of pressing buttons, mix things up a bit with throws or Karakusas.

Get your opponent cornered if you can. Pressure with aforementioned f.mp / st.mp > stuff. Or cr.mp if you're a little further away. cr.hp for knockdowns, obv. If you're successful enough, Nate will probably start shitting himself a bit and he'll probably try to jump in at you. lp.fukiage > hp.fukiage does lotsa damage. A jump cancelled EX Tsurugi does even more (remember, you only need to be holding up to jump cancel a fukiage, there's none of this down / up business involved).

Hayate cancels are a good way of making your opponent do stuff on wake-up. Unless they're already scared of doing stuff, in which case, Karakusa > tingz.

Arm yourself with Ultra 2 for getting out of the corner / punishing fireballs.

Get her corner combo down (EX Hayate > lp.fukiage > JC EX Tsurugi.

cr.lk xx EX Hayate catches people more often than it should. Even better in the corner as you can follow up with lp.fukiage > JC EX Tsurugi. If they block the cr.lk it's OK because EX Hayate is safe as fuck, blud.

EX Karakusa is a lovely thing because it has armour, and it'll scoop up pressure happy people on Mak's wakeup like it ain't no thang.

Sorry Nate

[Nate Dogg III]

10-1, then.

Lyrical Fucknut, more like

Actually, having read all that I'm pretty sure there's nothing there he didn't do to me last time, so: 10-2.

[Lyrical Donut]

Ha, yeah - I figured he knows most of that, but I felt I had to redress the balance after last week's anti-Mak science drop.

Actually, in our last Mak vs E.Ryu match I noticed you weren't using cr.mk a great deal. That shit tends to work on me pretty well when i'm trying to close the distance on people. It's a tad faster that Happy Ryu's cr.mk too, isn't it?

That's your lot though, I'm afraid.

[imp]

Ha, yeah - I figured he knows most of that, but I felt I had to redress the balance after last week's anti-Mak science drop.

Actually, in our last Mak vs E.Ryu match I noticed you weren't using cr.mk a great deal. That shit tends to work on me pretty well when i'm trying to close the distance on people. It's a tad faster that Happy Ryu's cr.mk too, isn't it?

That's your lot though, I'm afraid.

Nah, it's got better range (maybe not now traditional ryu has his groove back), but it's slower to come out.

[joffocakes]

What was the Scrabble documentary you watched Joffio?

Word Wards:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390632/

It was on Netflix and I figured it might be fun. There's a brilliant moment where some kid who's competing is asked what he wants to achieve in scrabble in his future.

I'm going to continue the "men unhealthily obsessed with something" theme by watching Cinemania:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0281724/

One of the men deliberately eats food that will constipate him so he can get more film watching time. Oh man!

[Wintermute]

I'll probably be drunk later so if I manage to fumble the xbox on it'll be less this:

And more this:

[Qazimod]

That's me on pretty much every game, irrespective of alcohol consumption...

[NEG]

I'll probably be drunk later so if I manage to fumble the xbox on it'll be less this:

And more this:

Does this give any hint of MM in MvC3?

[mayor_mike_haggar]

NEG, how are you lately. Did you ever become a lawyer?

[imp]

Does this give any hint of MM in MvC3?

He came out for McC3 on tuesday.

[Lyrical Donut]

He came out for McC3 on tuesday.

Marvel curses Capcom?

[Choo]

Played a few games against imp and choo and got utterly destroyed. I'm obsessed with imp's obsession with kara tiger knees against Choo. Also, I'm obsessed with Choo never dropping links with Yang. Oh man. Was kinda choppy every now and then but toward the end the lag got wild and unplayable to the point where even the attacks that did connect were unsatisfying; turns out the ladychum was uploading dozens of photos to facebook and flickr. Despair.

What is it with ladyfriends and uploading? Mine seems to save a weeks worth of uploads for the tiny period in which I'm fighting you guys. Grrr!

Cheers for complimenting my small chinese fella. But in all honesty, his links are pretty much chains they're that easy. And then you're casually popping out Rufus st.lk, st.HP like it's target combo! I doff my stupid quiff to you sir.

The guy doing the destroying last night was Imp with his long win streaks. I think our marvel session must have enraged the beast. Doesn't help that I've picked the characters with the most smug laughter for win quotes (and gravity squeezes).

[NEG]

NEG, how are you lately. Did you ever become a lawyer?

Threw it in the trash (though I do appreciate the things I did learn out of that period) and went to the programming side of things.

Not that it means I have a proper job yet, still wobbling around the room. Horray.

I shall make games. They will sell millions.

[Plopboy]

Thanks for the games MrEPotato, sorry to be quite so bad but hey I do like to rock the bottom tier

You have a very nice Sagat there, who I didn't like much as my poor old cooking man got a right old roasting

[Plopboy]

And more this:

I'm always like this, isn't this how you are supposed to play.

[joffocakes]

Good games to Misters Pockets, EPotato and Jiro. Apologies for my dreadful connection; it did seem to run smoothly for some moments this evening, so that's something at least. Kicked me right out of the lobby at one point though. Sadness. ALSO! It actually let me watch that match of Pockets' Ryu Vs JLM's 'Gief! I'm lovin' the gief. Amazing.

Pockets thoroughly smashed up my nonsense as Oni. Wasted about half my health trying to super him at one point too, haha, oh man. I quite like Oni. I'm terrible at him.

MrEPotato's Sagat was a fiend. pretty dangerous to get in on. Also, there were angry scars being used. I love angry scar being used.

Jiro was not taking the jump bait from my Gen; had fully stocked Super and desperately wanted to land Crane hk.Super from at least half a screen away, as a sort of funny thing to do.

[mayor_mike_haggar]

ahaha, it turns out my shite connection was due to flatmate downloading 2gb in the background when his dropbox decided to wildly sync itself. That explains it all.

[JLM]

Tonight I started with ranked and tried to play Chun. My Chun is awful now. So many months of endless battling and not playing as her and semi-maining other characters have left her in a pretty useless state.

As such, I have decided to take this Gief experiment more seriously. After dropping 800PP in ranked with Chun, I retired her for the night and played nothing but Gief in both ranked and endless for the next several hours. My goodness it was fun. Gief doesn't lend himself to the one game situation of ranked particularly well, but I still found that the rounds went so long that there's still time to figure out and condition the opponent. In the first round each time I did almost nothing but slowly approach and try to figure out what they'd do. I'd quite often lose, but it meant that some of the round 3 wins were pretty resounding because I'd gathered some useful info by that point.

I played a long set of endless against JJesman, who has an excellent Vega and a tricky Fuerte as second. He clearly knew Vega vs Gief very well, and was standing his ground using pokes and neutral jump roundhouse and air throw and such to keep me out. He also didn't use backflip, which is a good sign that a Vega is on the ball against Gief. A long set against these two slippery characters was great warm up for Gief.

I learned a lot about what to do against Vega, and also how to punish a lot of Fuerte's nonsense. Highlight of the set for me was landin a Blizzard in about the sixth game having not gone for it at all up until that point. He was very disciplined about not leaving the ground and wasn't big on random wall dives and such, but I noticed that there's that one awkward range in Vega vs Gief where Vega's best anti-air option is to jump and air throw. After five games of messing about with spacing and eating many air throws, in game six I got him with air to air blizzard to take the match and it was glorious.

Following that, I played a 3,000PP+ French guy named FHR DiiDii who was beastly with most of the cast. He was doing all manner of crispy links and seemed to know how to deal with Gief with many characters, and particularly with Ryu, his main. I won the odd game here and there but was mostly just grateful for the practise. Also he had all the costume packs like me, had picked out a silly outfit and taunt for each character and made sure we exchanged taunts at the beginning of each round. He sent me a GGs and said that I had a nice pink Gief. What a gent.

Match experience is so key for Gief because I just need as many examples of how people react in situation X as possible in order to get better with the reads, taking into account my meter, their meter, whether they have ultra, how much life we have, what round we're in and what they did on the three or four previous occasions. All of this stuff means that I'm thoroughly enjoying playing as Gief even if I get completely zoned out because I'm still llearning things for future matches.

So then I took it on ranked. and ended up with seven wins and four losses. Not too bad.

First up was a loss was against a Cody player called Kyros who I've played before and know to be good. He knew what was up here, making excellent use of rocks and THE BOOT to keep me at bay. I got near perfected in round 1, but in round 2 managed to push him to the corner and take three quarters of his life before losing. Not bad.

Next game was against a 3,500PP, 13K BP Adon player named Philanthr0py, who figured out that Im hopeless at the match up in round one and then trolled me to death with perfeclty spaced Jaguar kicks. I don't expect to be beating super experienced character specialists for quite a while yet so I wasn't too bothered, but he was a bit mean.

Next up was a Viper who was just doing things. Not in a dazzling Latif way either. He was just doing things. Lost the first round and then realised he had no defense whatsoever and was waking up with stuff constantly . I also noticed he was one of those players whose response to the Gief match up is to hold up-back any time they're not on offense. I'm already growing to love those players. Splash - > MP - > Blizzard was the finish of course.

I set up another lobby and the guy came back again, but this time he counter picked me! The bastard! Yup. Akuma for the rematch. What followed was the toughest test of my commitment to Gief so far. I wouldn't like to count how many fireballs and air fireballs were thrown over the duration of the match, but all I know is that I won BOTH ROUNDS BY TIME OUT. Oh yes. Oh yes indeed. I have saved the replay under the heading "Zengief", such was the patience on display. Double time out. I don't think I've done that before.

Following that I lost to Mubress, who is one of the best Rufii in the UK. Again, he knew the match up well as I suppose top Rufus players have to because it's a struggle for him. Outstanding use of normals and excellent reads on when to jump roundhouse. It was near impossible to get in on him.

I then beat a Balrog player who didn't know the match at all and was doing lots of very very unsafe rush punches. I caught his wake up headbutt with the blizzard. Then there was a Fei who was also clueless, though that one surprised me because he was very high ranked and obviously had a lot of games under his belt. three different times I hit him with something air to air and he'd whiff an uppercut on landing, which is soooooooooo risky against Gief. I understand double bluffing and trying not to be bullied out of doing things by your opponent, but after eating the second fierce SPD I'd probably not do it again. Couple more Rogs after that, both of whom fell into the trap of playing against Zangief like he's a regular character and getting blown up for it.

Next up was a Honda named Panesthesia, who had 10,000BP and 3,000PP. This one was tricky. I lost the first round badly, but the second I should have won but I made a terrible execution error. He'd been really discilpined and low risk for both rounds, but in round two he'd used all his EX headbutts, I had nearly full life, he had a third life left and had just eaten jab SPD - > green hand - > fierce SPD. I felt sure he would do something on wake up this time, and figured the Blizzard would beat headbutt, butt slam, neutral jump, jump back or ultra. He did ultra, I did my classic accidental EX running bear grab instead of blizzard and he won. Still, the read was there even if my execution wasn't.

Back to endless after that. Beat up a terrible Adon who did all uppercuts all the time, then popped into the rllmuk lobby for one game against pockets. Twas a fun match, but I thought I'd better leave so as not to mess things up for Joffo. I'm glad you could watch my game, and I'd have stayed if I knew that. I don't mind sitting out the match I can't play against you if spectator mode is working, it's just not being able to see the games that's rubbish.

Finished off with a set of 12 games against another Vega player who couldn't have been more different from the first. Still effective because he had all manner of shenanigans and trickery, but nowhere near as solid fundamentally as the other guy. He'd also panic mash the back flip, which is only good for a round or two before you start paying for it. In one of the games he won, he back dashed one of my grab attempts and taunted me before finishing me off. In the next game he got dizzed both times thanks to the headbutt and I nearly double perfected him, finishing with a Super. I didn't taunt him though. No class some people.

Oh, and as a result of the set against friendly taunty man above, I had a look through Gief's taunts and settled on the utterly, utterly wonderful taunt number 3 where he pretends to be a grizzly bear. Awesome, I can't believe I hadn't seen that before.

That's a lot of text. "I like Gief" is the gist of what I'm trying to say.