Ultra Street Fighter IV

[ah]

Flash kick is 5 frames startup, though, so it's a tight punish. It will be even more punishable in USF4, though (much like the messiah kick enders). Fortunately for me, however, I intend to be better at the game in USF4 to compensate.*

Anyway, you know how you're looking for more high pressure practice with your Rose before Hypespotting? It's not the same as a real tournament but do you fancy coming over on the 15th and entering this online PC tournament?

http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/188378/ssf4ae-pc-tournament-maddogz-tournament-europe-1#latest

We have to play without stage backgrounds for the game to run perfectly on my machine (but it does run perfectly once the backgrounds are off!) but it might be a good time. Can do the usual jellistarr training/pressing buttons session while waiting our turns.

I was thinking about Leicester this weekend because I could go see my brother while I'm there but the travel is just a bit much, especially when we're off to Glasgow at the end of the month.

*Not a guarantee.

[IgTerminals]

Flask Kick is 4 frames, dude.

[ah]

Huh. Not sure why I think that, then!

Oh I know, because we were testing if Guile could punish blocked messiah kick FADC forward and couldn't get it, so we figured it was unsafe against DPs but safe against Guile. I guess it must be -3 and the it's just that it's really easy to mash reversal DP. Either that or we just suck at training mode.

[IgTerminals]

To be fair, I've heard a couple of commentators (inc. Chen) say it's 5 frames, but every frame data chart I've looked at says 4. Chen has also said Sagats dp is 5 frames as well, tho.

Just saying I did check before posting, but maybe my info is wrong.

[ah]

I can get a chun LP (3 frames) punish on messiah FADC forward but not a close HK or close MP (4 frames), so I guess it's just that the rufus messiah kick FADC is -3 on block.

[imp]

I thought Sagat's DP was 5 frames? Is it 4? What a luxury!

Also Alistarr, is that FADCing forwards or backwards?

[ah]

Forwards - backdashing is a lot less safe frame-wise but moves you far enough back that hardly anyone can punish it. Guile, however, can flash kick for miles (but seemingly can't punish a forward dash).

Sagat's DP is 5 frames - take it from someone who hasn't got their frame data wrong in at least an hour.

[DC]

You've Been Framed

[IgTerminals]

Aha. I was wrong about Sagat, it seems. Mr Starr is completely correct about Sagats dp. Had checked Guiles, hadn't checked Sagats. His dp is 5 frames apparently.

I apologise.

That means all the other commentators I've heard say it's 4 are wrong, and Chen was right.

Fancy that.

[mayor_mike_haggar]

Don't forget that sagat wakes up 1f slower from a hard knockdown though. Which then messes up some safe jump setups.

[IgTerminals]

Anyone want a fight?

[JLM]

I am going to Leicester now it seems. SFO road trip is go. That pc tournament sounds fun too, definitely up for that!

[ah]

Good luck! Remember to pick ultra 2, it's the best one.

You have to sign up for the online thing here with a challonge account: http://challonge.com/MadDogzTE_1

[joffocakes]

Shaq Fu though:

[Dig Dug]

I just saw that, everyone thought he was joking when he said it was being made.

[lewismistreated]

Episodes 6-9 of the most Excellent Adventures are up to rent or own now.

https://excellentadventures.pivotshare.com/

[mayor_mike_haggar]

I typed some sexless numbers and letters into one of your online internet webpages and soon a sallow working class man will be delivering a copy of dark souls 2 through my front door. What a wonderful time to be alive.

Street fighter?

[Qazimod]

Thanks to Donut, Jonster etc for the recent Steam Fighter sessions. Wild connection issues kind of ruined my best-laid plans but it was still pretty funny.

[Qazimod]

dat ULTRA ROLENT

One more week(ish) until the fifth character!

[IgTerminals]

Anyone for fights?

[cale]

Alistarr's beard is a thing of beauty. Mrs cale says you look like a Beach Boy.

[Nate Dogg III]

It really is an excellent beard. Three cheers.

[DC]

I played this game tonight. I am rubbish but it is step one to becoming the greatest Street Fighter person in the world.

Event Hubs for combos I guess? I did some bad ones by accident.

[joffocakes]

I played this game tonight. I am rubbish but it is step one to becoming the greatest Street Fighter person in the world.

Event Hubs for combos I guess? I did some bad ones by accident.

You're honestly probably better just asking in here. Who you been usin'? We'll give the best advice we can before Jellum drops pure science.

[DC]

I want to use Dudley without being shit.

[DC]

I know JLM plays him and has written loads of great stuff, no doubt, so I'll search the thread tomorrow. I used to play Fei but understand that's not done now. Deejay, Cody and Gouken also interest me.

[joffocakes]

Learning to use Cr.lp linked into standing hk consistently (then cancelling in EX Machinegun Blow) is a pretty big deal for Dudley. Jellum has a lot of experience with him these days and I'm currently unsober so I'll let him type words when he exists.

EX Thunderbolt for chip win is glory.

[ah]

If you're going with Dudley, see if you can get a feeling for the following three link combos:

cr.lp, cr.lp, st.hk

f.hk, cr.lp, st.hk

cr.lk, cr.lp, st.hk

The first one is your basic hit confirm from a crouching jab, and the other two are the same combo but starting with an overhead and a low attack respectively. With all three you should be looking to then cancel the st.hk into ex machinegun blow whenever you have the meter for it, which you can follow with a ducking upper for an extra smidgeon of damage.

Dudley has loads of fun stuff and nice counterhit games too, and I'm sure JLM won't mind repeating his long list of real Dudley advice, but that high/low mixup into big damage, plus plenty of throwing when you sense your opponent just blocking, is a solid basic foundation for a Dudley.

Oh, and use st.mk as anti-air. Don't be letting dudes jump on you!

Cody and Deejay both have some nice easy combos which you can swap out for more difficult ones once you get better. With Dudley you kind of need that cr.lp into st.hk link or you're never getting any damage. If you can get a feel for it then it's such a satisfying thing to hit, though!

[DC]

Thanks chaps, it's on tomorrow!

[JLM]

Standing medium kick is the anti-air, not standing mp. Everything else Alistarr says is entirely correct though.

I am in no fit state to do the whole spiel now but I will knock something up soon as I have put a silly amount of time into researching Dudley and enjoy rambling on about it in here.