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SomethingWitty

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Worth noting at this point that wincho's entirely selfish reason for voting 'yes' is that he's shit scared he will get promoted and I won't, and can't imagine the horror of having to play me with a lesser side!

Confirmed as fact, people. The winch told me this, more or less word for word during our league game the other week.

A very poor reason for voting, I'm sure you'll all agree. Burn him at the stake. ;)

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Steely

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A better team is a reward for working your way up the leagues. It looks odd to have all the best teams in the bottom league and the reasoning being the cups is poor, it hasnt made them that much more competitive.

Never really agreed with it. Fair enough for an odd season to mix it up but not full time in backwards land.

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SaintM

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Oh whatever, I say what I'm thinking. The lower leagues have had their fun, what about us guys at the top?

The games with 4* star teams can be utterly woeful at times.

So the guys with less ability to cope with it should be the ones with them?

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A better team is a reward for working your way up the leagues. It looks odd to have all the best teams in the bottom league and the reasoning being the cups is poor, it hasnt made them that much more competitive.

Never really agreed with it. Fair enough for an odd season to mix it up but not full time in backwards land.

Do you have any data to back up that claim? We don't keep cup records from season to season, so I don't.

The reasoning is sound. The better players with the worse teams and the worse players with the better teams means they are closer together. I don't understand what is poor about that reasoning.

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LittleJoe

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So the guys with less ability to cope with it should be the ones with them?

In all sincerity, I think there's an argument to be made that because the game is simpler with lesser teams, it's also easier to get to grips with and learn from. I'm not sure the idea that playing in a league of similarly amazing teams makes it any easier to 'cope' for a lesser player is legitimate.

Clearly a 3 star vs 3 star game is as fair as a 5 star vs 5 star game, but the latter - with its pace, particularly - is a lot harder to get to grips with.

Whenever I start a new FIFA I always make the mistake of jumping straight with five star teams, and having every other mistake punished by Cristiano Ronaldo. This time around I found it much easier getting to grips with the feel of the game - which is always massively different from version to version - by working my way up the seasons with Fiorentina. As sith might say, the game is more bobble-free at the lower levels, and when the mistakes do happen, there's rarely a superhuman player to punish you for it.

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LittleJoe

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Round one this season, the higher league team progressed in all but 1 match.

I dont have time to look any deeper at the minute.

All league one players where out in round 2...

Practically, there's less of a need for it with our new downsized league, and, partly because of that, it's not actually making the cups that more competitive. Only two League One teams made it out of the first round of the cup this season, and that was only because they were playing other League One players; none made it to the 1/4 finals. Glancing back over past winners the only non-prem winner of anything since it was introduced is Wincho's Dortmund side, and he had me in the final. Forum, I don't need a handicap to lose a cup final.

Guuuuyyyys, shut up. I've got this.

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Steely

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No they didn't. There were 5 out of 16 ties between players in the same league.

Sorry didnt mean to neg you! Was my clunky fingers on the phone. Still even with that the numbers still back up my point.

No they didn't. There were 5 out of 16 ties between players in the same league.

Sorry didnt mean to neg you! Was my clunky fingers on the phone. Still even with that the numbers still back up my point.

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SaintM

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It is all for the cups, no doubt, as that's the only time teams meet each other.

I'd be ok with a compromise of giving everyone fair whack at the same teams.. yeah we'd end up with 3 Man Utds , but at least it'd be a level playing field (as far as it can be) in the cups.

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Pants McSkill

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I'd argue the opposite to Joe. The game has an unforgiving first touch system. It has a harsh passing system where your direction and power have to be spot on. The world class players in the 5 star teams can compensate for Human-player mistakes far greater than players in 4-star teams do. Therefore the lesser-skilled human players in lower leagues should have them - Premiership players are better and don't need the extra help.

I'd also argue against Sith's point: Having had several conversations with you both, I know for a fact that you play the game far more than Al does. I'd bet you play it more than most League one-ers.

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sith

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I haven't played a single online game with anyone other than my league teams, or teams tested for said league.

I do play UT on occasion but that's a different beast entirely.

The league is meant to be fun, that should always be the main concern and I can tell you that playing with Hannover 96 is not fun. The games against Mike the other night were dire, no flow or ebb to the games at all. Barely football at times. Again no fun at all.

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Timmo

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I haven't played a single online game with anyone other than my league teams, or teams tested for said league.

I do play UT on occasion but that's a different beast entirely.

The league is meant to be fun, that should always be the main concern and I can tell you that playing with Hannover 96 is not fun. The games against Mike the other night were dire, no flow or ebb to the games at all. Barely football at times. Again no fun at all.

4* teams are fine

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Steely

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I dont agree with that as a reason at all, so anything less than a 4.5* team makes a poor game...?.

Some of my best fifa moments have come playing with the mighty Middlesbrough, all the greater that the players dont ping shots into the top corner or always test the keeper from distance or the defenders.

You can tell your a United fan Sith :P

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sith

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I disagree. The gulf in the quality of 4* teams can be annoying aswell. Someone can have Di Natale and Muriel up-top whilst someone like Ricky has nobody of note. With 5* teams even if someone has Madrid you can still feel confident with Juventus or Spurs.

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SomethingWitty

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The league is meant to be fun, that should always be the main concern and I can tell you that playing with Hannover 96 is not fun.

1. Choose a more fun team, then. Ipswich, or Bilbao. Or, god damn it, Colchester.

2. So, by your reckoning, the only people due some fun are premiership managers? 4 star teams are awful and no fun, so they should be foisted on the lower league managers so the better players can have more fun? I don't mind being dumped with the dregs (I'd just choose Ipswich again), but I'll tell you this: you wouldn't have got games like the Man Utd 3 - 7 Real Madrid that happened in League One this year if we'd been playing with 3.5 star teams.

Anyway, whatever - I'll be signing up again next season regardless. I'll have as much fun with a shit team as a good one. I always have.

You know what I vote for? A novelty season where everyone has the same team, preferably something like Plymouth, and everyone is forced to play with the default starting 11 and default formation. That'd sort the men from the whiney, complaining boys. So there. :P

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sith

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Why should the top guys have the shite teams? I picked Bilbao BTW. Didn't get them.

So you guys had a great goal scoring game using Madrid and City right? I bet it was a lot of fun no? You're confirming my argument for me.

Every one with the same team? Jamin would still win the league. Why can't we just pick who we want? I think that same team picks per league would be low.

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Wincho

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Sith makes a compelling argument for me to change my mind and join the 'leave it as it is' crew

Quick - Steely, Joe - say something that doesn't make everyone in Sith's camp look like complete cunts

Sith - you are really bad at debating. I mean really, really bad.

Next time just vote and stfu - your reasoning is completely moronic and no-one cares a shit, that a single individual (that isn't them) is getting in a boo hooey the few times he switches the game on

You are embarrasing yourself

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SomethingWitty

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Tell you what. I'll play sith in a pair of friendlies right now. Madrid vs Plymouth. First game I'll have Madrid, second I'll have Plymouth.

It's the only way to scientifically prove whether or not better players enjoy better teams. If he has more fun beating me as Madrid then I'll STFU and accept my place in the world. :)

C'mon son. You know you want it.

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sith

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I don't care in the slightest mate. We've used 4* teams for 3 seasons now? I didn't complain at all during this time. Now I fancy a change and whilst my reasons probably are selfish I still think it's to the benefit of the league. I've not had any particularly exciting games all season and the majority of goals I've scored or conceded have been down to player errors, bobbling balls, bad first touches and stupid tackles from 72 rated defenders in the box. Will 5* teams fix this? I've no idea but it's really the only thing we can change right?

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I've not had any particularly exciting games all season and the majority of goals I've scored or conceded have been down to player errors, bobbling balls, bad first touches and stupid tackles from 72 rated defenders in the box. Will 5* teams fix this?

Dude, come on.

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