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Captain Kelsten

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So I've been meaning to get back to this after abandoning it early on, despite loving ME 1 and 2 enough to complete them a couple of times each (a rare occurrence this gen, believe me!). Is it worth seeing through? I remember there being grumbling about the ending when it was released but that biowsre were going to fix it?

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There's a free ending DLC that expands on characters, cutscenes etc. I'll admit that I finished the game with the DLC and wondered how awful the ending had been originally.

Seeing this thread again has made me play it all over again on PC-

But with a HAPPY ENDING mod because I don't need my heart ripped out twice, thanks/

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So I've been meaning to get back to this after abandoning it early on, despite loving ME 1 and 2 enough to complete them a couple of times each (a rare occurrence this gen, believe me!). Is it worth seeing through? I remember there being grumbling about the ending when it was released but that biowsre were going to fix it?

Up until the last hour it's got some serious best-in-series moments in it. DO EEET.
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Rudi von Starnberg

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There's a free ending DLC that expands on characters, cutscenes etc. I'll admit that I finished the game with the DLC and wondered how awful the ending had been originally.

Seeing this thread again has made me play it all over again on PC-

But with a HAPPY ENDING mod because I don't need my heart ripped out twice, thanks/

The ending DLC really just makes the ending bad in new ways at the same time as patching up some of the most egregious holes in the original ending. It actually takes one of the moments in the climax which worked, and then robs of it any tension whatsoever in its drive to cover up plotholes and weirdness. That mod sounds interesting at least - I know K would take serious exception to it but even though it wasn't the lack of 'happiness' I objected to that ending does sound better in general.

But yeah, other than the very end it's got some fucking great stuff in it. Go for it Shark.

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It actually takes one of the moments in the climax which worked, and then robs of it any tension whatsoever in its drive to cover up plotholes and weirdness.

I never actually played through ME3 after the initial (pre-DLC) disappointment, so am curious to know what they made worse; did they do something daft like

show the teammates who fall as you rush towards the end being whisked away to explain their reappearance in the epilogues, rather than inverting and removing them from the epilogue as would make more sense

? Or did they spoil something else entirely?

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Rudi von Starnberg

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I never actually played through ME3 after the initial (pre-DLC) disappointment, so am curious to know what they made worse; did they do something daft like

show the teammates who fall as you rush towards the end being whisked away to explain their reappearance in the epilogues, rather than inverting and removing them from the epilogue as would make more sense

? Or did they spoil something else entirely?

Got it in one.

The mad dash to the Conduit is broken up by a very intrusive cutscene of Shepard calling for help and the Normandy breaking off from the orbital battle, coming down, and picking up your squadmates. Then you resume the run to the conduit and THEN everyone gets blown up.

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Wiper

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Got it in one.

The mad dash to the Conduit is broken up by a very intrusive cutscene of Shepard calling for help and the Normandy breaking off from the orbital battle, coming down, and picking up your squadmates. Then you resume the run to the conduit and THEN everyone gets blown up.

Well, that's depressing. I only guessed that because, like you, I thought that was the one part of the ending that really worked.* Fuck's sake.

*until the epilogue ruined it

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Alex W.

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Do most of the DLC as you go along, yeah. From Ashes as soon as it appears, Leviathan can be broken up a bit because it's got a few episodes, and Omega's all one big lump.

Citadel's a tricky one, because it's got loads of arcade gameplay and collectables after the first half that'd be good to spread out over the main story. One certainty is that you're not meant to do the end of that DLC until just before the game's finale.

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ryodi

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Some of the Mass Effect 3 DLC is on offer on XBL this week:

Citadel - £4.99

Alternate Appearance Pack 1 - £0.64

Groundside Pack - £0.64

Genesis 2 - £1.34

I've been waiting ages for Citadel to be on offer so I'm downloading it now.

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Alex W.

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Citadel is basically a buddy action movie, but with all your favourite Mass Effect characters instead of renegade cops. Don't you want to be part of a version of Lethal Weapon where it's Garrus and Liara instead of Riggs and Murtaugh?

Basically it's the best DLC for the game. And that's before we get to the combat simulator or the party.

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JoeK

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Just finished going through the Citadel DLC. Been doing a grand run through of the games over the last few weeks.

Getting near the end once more.

I think ME3 is my fave Mass Effect game. It's a tough one, especially because of the bitterness that went on with the ending, but throughout the whole game there are more moments that I felt myself welling up than any of the others. The Citadel DLC just confirmed things really - what a fantastic bit of DLC it is. Thought everything about it was wonderfully done, and the moment it ends and you go back to the day job is poignant.

Brilliant stuff.

God knows what they're gonna do with ME4. The years spent with the characters are definitely not something they're gonna be able to replicate easily.

Looking forward to it though.

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JoeK

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Just finished it once more. Never did the

control

ending before, but thought it worked better than any of the others really.

After a third playthrough, I honestly think it gets better each time.

However, the games have now completely dominated my time these last few weeks, and it's going to be nice to do something other than game for a while!

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dreamylittledream

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But Gorf...

After giving the Geth the gift of life, you'd wipe them out?

... you monster.

Gorf is right - Shepard is being played on any of the other endings - destroy is the only option

and losing the Geth and EDI makes it all the more bitter sweet - particularly as I'd sacrificed Quarians to save them in the first place - actually not that the idiot Quarians were much of a loss Tali aside - I did shed a tear for what happened to her mind

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Question regarding Citadel... spoilered just in case.

I was hoping to do this on my main save which is right before the finale, so the only place I can travel seems to be the point of no return and triggers the mission to earth. I guess i'd need an earlier save to be able to do the DLC now? I've got another Shep who is coming up to the Cerberus attack (which I read is the earliest you can do it) but I would rather do it on my proper Shep. Any ideas?

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Eeehh, perhaps I'm being overly touchy, but you may want to spoiler that, Joe.

Pre extended ending I preferred Destroy. Post, it's got to be Control, leaving the Commander to be the Shepherd s/he was destined to always be.

Possibly right! I've spoilered :) .

Think I did the

sythesis options on my previous ones. The other alternative just struck me as a right big fuck off to all the hassle I had with getting the Geth thing sorted out. Also...EDI.

Question regarding Citadel... spoilered just in case.

I was hoping to do this on my main save which is right before the finale, so the only place I can travel seems to be the point of no return and triggers the mission to earth. I guess i'd need an earlier save to be able to do the DLC now? I've got another Shep who is coming up to the Cerberus attack (which I read is the earliest you can do it) but I would rather do it on my proper Shep. Any ideas?

Yeah, you've gone a little bit too far, unfortunately. Once on that last mission, there ain't no turning back!

Well, rllmuk is the 2nd cuntiest forum... ;)

But let me address that anyway.

Shepard is totally being played... if the Commander was to choose synthesis. It's the epic solution the reapers always wanted. It's also a wholly immoral choice in my opinion. How dare one being make that decision for an entire galaxy of intelligent species. The hubris.

Control however, is the best solution in my opinion. Yes, the reapers are not defeated in the traditional sense, but they now aid the Galaxy as a whole, aided by the one soul that sacrificed itself to provide a soul for the legion of machines hell-bent on fixing the problems of organic and artificial life. Saving both in the process.

Also:

It's exactly what the indoctrinated Saren wanted to do to everyone. And - despite me turning him back to the good side - I really don't want his ideas working out again!

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Well, rllmuk is the 2nd cuntiest forum... ;)

But let me address that anyway.

Shepard is totally being played... if the Commander was to choose synthesis. It's the epic solution the reapers always wanted. It's also a wholly immoral choice in my opinion. How dare one being make that decision for an entire galaxy of intelligent species. The hubris.

Control however, is the best solution in my opinion. Yes, the reapers are not defeated in the traditional sense, but they now aid the Galaxy as a whole, aided by the one soul that sacrificed itself to provide a soul for the legion of machines hell-bent on fixing the problems of organic and artificial life. Saving both in the process.

Nah its not being cunty in this context - there is no easy answer to this, the sacrifices made don't make it easier to live with

but...

Control plays Shepard just as much, it just continues the status quo substituting Shephard for the Catalyst, it gives no reassurance that the cycle won't repeat, or that Shepard won't become what the Catalyst is now - it all gives no real guarantee that Shephard won't become what the Reapers want her to be or that the control is true.

No, consequences be damned and everything I struggled to bring them about....the only option is to nuke them all from orbit and have faith that the cycle is not inevitable - you have to have faith and every step I took up to this point was to end this, not place my faith in the hand of a set of machines set on wiping out advanced intelligent life every few millennia

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Besides, everyone knows that Citadel is actually the 'six months later' epilogue to the story and since

EDI is fine then obviously the Catalyst was spouting a load of bull and the Geth are fine too! Everyone gets loud and spills drinks at the best house party ever, of all time. The end.

That's my Mass Effect story and no-one can tell me otherwise, speculation be damned! :P

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Alex W.

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Is there any sign of a complete edition of this ever being released with all DLC included?

Still haven't got around to playing it despite completing and living the first two games.

They didn't do a Complete version of ME2 AFAIK, so I doubt we'll see one for ME3. Continuing to sell £50 of DLC that's worth paying for seems like a no-brainer. Maybe it'll be a Game on Gold now it's been on PSPlus, or a have a really big discount.

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