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39 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Because they're going to have Avatar and Star Wars on alternate years.

 

I forgot about Disney hoovering up Fox. Doesn't make sense to compete with themselves.

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On 15/04/2019 at 20:46, Nick R said:

Another casting announcement:

 

 

 

Michelle Yeoh as Kylie Minogue? I'm back in.

 

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On 14/02/2019 at 23:09, Dirty Harry Potter said:

Nah.... its been dimishing for years. It’s still in theatres because the owner invested in the 3D systems - and doing a 3D conversion of any movie is relatively cheap.

 

 

 

Cinemas seem very confused about their stance on it. Odeon are running “See Detective Pikachu in 3D to get an exclusive card!” ads all over social media, but then the comments are full of people saying “but my local Odeon isn’t showing it in 3D!”, “None of the Odeons in London are!” etc. Even my local just has one screening out of the 13 a day on opening weekend in 3D, despite all the pushing for the format.

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Incidentally, a lot of the investment in 3d was actually driven by the studios rather than the cinema chains, they couldn't give a fuck, hence loads of cinemas still stuck in the dark ages. 

The cost of upgrading cinemas to take hdds instead of reels was mainly the studios and yet still cinema chains take half of all ticket sales (as a general average). It's a really weird industry on many levels. 

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With the Disney release plan available, it would seem that they've agreed to pay for the other two films definitely now, rather than waiting to see how the next two perform before agreeing to finance the final two.

 

 

1 hour ago, b00dles said:

and yet still cinema chains take half of all ticket sales (as a general average). It's a really weird industry on many levels. 

 

Isn't the counter view to this that because the cinemas only get half the money, they are forced to make you sit through adverts and push overpriced food to actually make any money.

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29 minutes ago, mushashi said:

With the Disney release plan available, it would seem that they've agreed to pay for the other two films definitely now, rather than waiting to see how the next two perform before agreeing to finance the final two.

 

 

 

Isn't the counter view to this that because the cinemas only get half the money, they are forced to make you sit through adverts and push overpriced food to actually make any money.

Yeah possibly but I always thought (from working on the production side of the table) that it's weird that cinema chains get half even though they do nothing towards actually making the film. Swings and roundabouts I guess but it seemed a bit of an odd balance. 

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I really wish this hadn't tied Cameron up for so many years. By the time it's done, he'll be in his mid-70s. 

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Yes, that is a big shame, but it's his choice, I don't think 20th Century Fox forced him at gunpoint to make 5 of these films for over 2 decades of his life :)

 

He had both Gunnm and a story about the American nuclear bombing of Japan he would have done if he had not decided to do these instead.

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It's such a stupid decision. I get that Avatar made a lot of money, but no-one cares about it all. Everyone went to see Avatar because we were told it was going to be this amazing spectacle that would show us what 3D film-making could do, and be transformative in the way we watched cinema. No-one loved it, 3D was just 3D, it made a shit-ton of money as a one-off. In the meantime, we've had basically the entire Marvel juggernaut released.

 

It's the same mistake Microsoft made with Kinect. Make a shit ton of sales from convincing people about overblown promise, and release an underwhelming product. They will definitely buy the follow-up in the same volumes.

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Just realised Cameron hasn't worked with Arnold for 25 years. We are old.

 

Avatar is fucking shite. It feels like something the member berries in South Park would take the piss out of. Nobody ever talks about, there's no merch, it doesn't occupy any headspace in the average nerd.

 

 

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33 minutes ago, Down by Law said:

Nobody ever talks about, there's no merch, it doesn't occupy any headspace in the average nerd.

 

This is true. Some SF&F/horror franchises (e.g. Star Wars, Star Trek, Doctor Who) retained an active fandom and a stream of official tie-in stories even during the long periods when nothing was being produced in the original film/TV format. Others (like The Matrix) just sort of dwindled away once official films/comics/games stopped being produced.

 

At this point it seems like on the Internet, the most talked about thing about Avatar is that no one ever talks about it!

 

But there is one major official Avatar product designed to keep it in the public eye... it got its own Disney theme park:

 

 

I wouldn't expect anyone to watch the entire thing (though I did when she uploaded it in December :mellow:), but skip to 55:40 for a short 30-second story that illustrates the point about how little cultural impact it has retained since 2010.

 

Also skip to 6:30 for a neat summary of how Disney ended up deciding to make an Avatar-themed theme park in the first place. ("What? Why? Noooo.")

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cameron has been a busted flush for over 2 decades.

 

One of the most self indulgent directors of all time. He has talent but he needs a good editor/producer to rein him in to prevent him producing overlong self indulgent shite.

 

even some of his best films could do with trimming. His best film by far is Terminator which had to be tight as fuck due to budget etc

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He's at least self aware on his indulgent side. He takes the piss put of himself on the Solaris commentary, "if I was doing this docking sequence it would be 15 minutes long".

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