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Did Bluebyte actually design Anno or are they just responsible for porting it? As I always thought the Anno series was created by a completely different company (Sunflowers). Though these days, the French have borged up most of Germany's prominent development houses.

Worst thing about The Settlers as a town construction game, the fact they ruined it by introducing tedious combat, it'd have been perfectly fine as a rural idyll simulator alone.

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Did Bluebyte actually design Anno or are they just responsible for porting it? As I always thought the Anno series was created by a completely different company (Sunflowers). Though these days, the French have borged up most of Germany's prominent development houses.

The splash screens for Anno 1404 on the PC feature a prominent Blue Byte logo animation sequence, while Sunflowers GMBH get a minor credit on the loading screen (along with the fantastic line USES GRANNY ANIMATION, but that's by the by). Maybe Blue Byte did this instalment while the series as a whole was a Sunflowers creation? No idea though I'm afraid.

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It was the Blue Byte link which I think makes it feel to me pretty close to Settlers 2 like I said earlier, massive farmland areas are just lovely :lol: and it just feels Settlers-ish. Although saying that I've just got to some mission in the campaign (the 6th or 7th?) where ground combat appears to have been forced in properly and unlike the rest of the game I don't really get what it wants me to do straight away, it's not quite as immediate. And it's got waves on a bloody timer <_< Still, I've put in well over 30 hours before that point.

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It sounds a bit old man but I never liked it when you started having to fight in Settlers. I think in Settlers 3 I stopped playing past about the 4th mission when they introduced the enemy, I just want to see my settlers potter about and make a nice home for them goddammit!

I got stuck on Anno on the DS actually, never played it since, should go back to it, a it's definitely good. Wish I had a proper PC to play it on though as it's all about the details for me. I loved that in settlers, farmers growing the corn, take it to the bakery, or feed the pigs, which go to the slaughterhouse.... <_<

I also remember spending an AGE on the 'correct path' between stuff, that dotted line with colours to signify the length of journey to make paths wound me up no end!

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Just picked up Anno 1404 for ten measly pounds on the PC via the Game.co.uk download service, which I never knew even existed!

Lucky I didn't fork out the 35 quid they want for it on Steam.

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The later one is better, has more buildings, better graphics, a smoother difficaulty curve and ironed out a few of the annoying things about the first one. I bought it a few weeks ago for less than £10. The DS has quite a few city building games and the newest Anno is easily the best one in its genre on the console.

Great, thanks for the reply. Just ordered it :P

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It sounds a bit old man but I never liked it when you started having to fight in Settlers. I think in Settlers 3 I stopped playing past about the 4th mission when they introduced the enemy, I just want to see my settlers potter about and make a nice home for them goddammit!

I'm exactly like this, exactly.

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It sounds a bit old man but I never liked it when you started having to fight in Settlers. I think in Settlers 3 I stopped playing past about the 4th mission when they introduced the enemy, I just want to see my settlers potter about and make a nice home for them goddammit!

I got stuck on Anno on the DS actually, never played it since, should go back to it, a it's definitely good. Wish I had a proper PC to play it on though as it's all about the details for me. I loved that in settlers, farmers growing the corn, take it to the bakery, or feed the pigs, which go to the slaughterhouse.... :P

I also remember spending an AGE on the 'correct path' between stuff, that dotted line with colours to signify the length of journey to make paths wound me up no end!

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Yeah, Anno 1404 is the best modern one, although Tropico 3 is very good (even moreso if you haven't played the original, as it's a remake)

Anybody here ever play Knights and Merchants?

It was a great city builder, and the graphics at the time were stunning. The combat was terrible, but the city building was up there with the best :P

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Although saying that I've just got to some mission in the campaign (the 6th or 7th?) where ground combat appears to have been forced in properly and unlike the rest of the game I don't really get what it wants me to do straight away, it's not quite as immediate.

Yeah, that's mission 6 which is about the only mis-step the game makes. Suddenly you're forced into combat (which no-one likes) and on top of that it's really pressured AND too dark to see what you're doing.

Stick with it though, it's a very short mission and you only have to hold out for a set period. Build a few walls and do your best to follow the objectives and it's actually almost impossible to lose.

Following that, the last two missions are business as usual (no combat) and for the continuous games you can disable combat completely if you like so you never have to see it again. :P

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I'm another huge fan of the early Settlers games. I played Settlers on the Amiga to DEATH. Unfortunately after Settlers II, or was it III, the series just went awful Truly awful.

These days, it's the Anno games -- 1404 as people have mentioned, but 1701 is very good and you can pick it up very cheap.

The "missions" part is just a big tutorial. The real game is the endless mode.

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Hello, OP here.

I dusted off my 'old' PC - Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4 overlocked a tad to 2.8, 2GB ram, Radeon 1950XT - because I had little else to do and to my surprise it runs pretty decent. Most of the settings or on Medium or lower but even that does not stop this game from being a inevitable time sink. It has Settlers written all over the same (same developer Blue Byte, don't know who Related Designs are) and that can only get a lot of :wub: from me.

Spending my days and nights in Continuous mode.

Me -----> :hug: <----- Anno 1404

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I used to spend hours on Age of Empires II just building amazing strongholds and expanding as far as I could, the combat was ok but was never the main appeal for me. Anno looks lovely, I was going to pick up Titan Quest for my work-lunchtime gaming but I think this just jumped the queue :)

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I'm on a city building kick at the minute. Been playing Sim City 4, which they've just added to Steam with the expansions for £10 and have just embarked upon my millionth game world in Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe (Best game evar!). Tropico 3 next I think.

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Tropico 3 is fantastic.

The same developers are apparently going to be making a sequel to those Patrician games next, where you control a kind of Hanseatic trading port in northern Germany or something. I never played the originals but if they make it as good as they made Tropico 3 - which is just one of those irrepressibly enthusiastic and enjoyable management games - then I look forward to it.

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Tropico 3 is fantastic.

The same developers are apparently going to be making a sequel to those Patrician games next, where you control a kind of Hanseatic trading port in northern Germany or something. I never played the originals but if they make it as good as they made Tropico 3 - which is just one of those irrepressibly enthusiastic and enjoyable management games - then I look forward to it.

The music's a big part of Tropico's appeal. I've rarely heard a soundtrack so joyous.

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The music's a big part of Tropico's appeal. I've rarely heard a soundtrack so joyous.

Exactly. It's just such a relentlessly happy game even when you're ordering your secret police to assassinate the leader of the intellectuals or whatever.

(but I never do that, I just build socialist paradises that everyone loves except the loyalists)

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Am I the only person who liked the combat part of Settlers? It gave the game a purpose and some urgency to expand and beat your rivals. You had to balance resource gathering versus producing troops. I also loved the "expansion" aspect of Settlers, starting off with tiny settlements and exploring the world, finding resources and towns springing up nearby. If there's any town-building games aside from Anno (which I'll check out) that you'd recommend which have this exploration/combat dynamic as well, let me know, I can't be bothered with another Sim City.

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So, I gave the demo of Anno 1404 a try yesterday. It seems quite good. Unfortunately even though my PC is almost up to its spec, even on the lowest graphics settings it chugs a bit over the large city in the demo, and generally is a bit laggy. Does the PC performance get worse as you progress through the game? Like will half the map be covered in cities like this? If so, I'll probably have to wait until I upgrade one day!

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