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Oooh I'm liking this shit right here! I grew up surrounded by guys into big hair metal and felt like I was the only one listening to hip hop. The first track I remember getting into was Just Buggin' by Whistle. I was walking around my town in a grey Nike tracksuit writing my tag BUG on stuff (obviously inspired by the video), watching Breakin'. I must have seemed like as much as a freak to my peers as they looked to me with their denim jackets with horror patches and studs on the back. 

 

 

Then I found a friend who passed me a tape - Master Ace Take A Look Around. Its full of bangers, but the last track blew my mind as it was talking about childhood memories of a time that was foreign but also weirdly familiar.

 

 

When I got hold of Public Enemy tho it was a wrap. My mind was blown and my world view was forever changed by them. Can't express how important Fear Of A Black Planet album was for me back then and still is tbh. This forum has been awesome for turning me onto stuff I've missed over the years. Edan being a more recent discovery. I know I'm not really posting anything new here but this one is always worth a watch!

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, Mr. Gerbik said:

You're welcome, I tried to choose a track that most people don't know, but you never know, you know? Glad you like it also.

Oh yeah, same here. And given the average age of this forum, I suspect we're not the only ones.

 

I try to listen to as much as possible but sometimes the thread has moved on two pages and I can't be arsed and skip to the last few posts. I rarely react directly, however. I'm not really good at putting into words why I like certain music or why a specific track is dope - just that it sounds good to me. And whenever I don't like a track, I'd rather not go out of my way to shit on someone else's preferences. So usually I just post my own favourite tracks without meaningful comment.

 

I do remember this thread being way more lively. Fuck, we even had a monthly thread! Now there's a handful of us left and everyone is posting their own specific tastes. Which isn't a bad thing btw, my tastes overlap with two or three people in here but for example I love reading @Calashnikov's enthusiastic and insightful posts about shit I would otherwise NEVER have listened to.

 

Fuck it, maybe we can spruce things up again by making it more personal and do something different. You telling us about how you became a fan for life gave me the idea.

 

I was already listening to the odd commercial rap track as a kid around ten years old, but otherwise I didn't have a favourite genre. It wasn't until I bought a Spider-Man comic that included a cassette tape as a freebie that I found my genre. On that cassette were mostly pop and rock songs, except this ONE track halfway through the B-side:

 

 

This track blew my mind!! Holy shit! I spent an entire summer holiday blasting this track out of my cheap boom box, rewinding every time it ended. Nonstop. THIS track made me a hip hop head.

 

From Beastie Boys onwards I discovered the likes of KRS, Public Enemy, EPMD, etc etc. I was lucky that I grew up in Amsterdam which had MTV on the cable even in the eighties. (Another big advantage was that every American hip hop artist wanted to come to Amsterdam to perform more than any other place outside of the USA lol, I remember B-Real putting a call out on a local radio station for anyone listening if they see Sen Dog - tell him to come to the studio. He was last seen in the red light district) Anyway, back then what we had on the cable was just USA MTV until at some point it became a mix of US and UK (shout out Most Wanted). Which meant I could watch YO! MTV Raps. That show was everything to me, watched each episode religiously and every time I discovered a dope new act, I made note of the name and went to a record store the very next day to check out their album

 

Another factor that made me a fan for life is that Dutch hip hop started becoming a thing in the underground towards the end of the 80s. Before then, rapping in Dutch was not done, it was seen as lame. A joke. But a group called the Osdorp Posse started making quality Dutch hip hop and it became an underground sensation. And it all happened in Amsterdam. Radio and TV didn't want anything to do with it, but more and more Dutch hip hop acts started appearing. It was all underground AS FUCK. First in Amsterdam, but it quickly spread out. It was amazing to see that happening as a teen and it played a large part in shaping me into the person I am today (have the tats to prove it).

 

 

Since the late 90s rapping in Dutch is common over here and a genre unto itself. But I was there man, at the very start.

 

Anyway, as USA rap became more commercial  I was leaning more and more towards the rawness of the Dutch scene. Until Funcrusher Plus happened. Blew my mind, I never knew hip hop could sound like that. It was magical. There was underground in America too! Now I knew to look for it. What was shown on MTV was mostly not my cuppa at this point.

 

One of the very first English tracks I knew every single word to.

 

Along the way I also became a huge Kool Keith fan. So when I joined rllmuk in 2005 I chose the name Mr. Gerbik:

 

 

On my very first day here someone PMed me "there's a horse in the hospital" and I knew I was in the right place. Back then I was very shy about posting in English, moreso in the hip hop thread filled with people having meaningful deep thoughts about music. So I just lurked here for years until I finally worked up the courage to post something. Probably "FUCK KANYE" hahaha, no no just kidding. No idea what I first posted.

 

Anyway I'm still here because hip hop is my biggest passion. Bigger than games even. Listening to hip hop is what got me through some really hard moments in life. 

 

 


Man, that was an amazing post! Thank you for that. I resonate with that on so many levels. 
 

i had no idea you’re Dutch. That’s awesome. I’ve been to Amsterdam about 10 times in the last decade (I live in Scotland) but I wasn’t visiting for the music scene, if you know what I mean! 
 

i felt the same when I first dropped I here. I was in the kinda Aftermath/Shady phase, I didn’t really know much music besides Eminem, 50 Cent, and classic west coast stuff like NWA and Tupac. I loved it, but I knew there had to be more out there! i remember being quite nervous and shy. Kinda embarrassed about my lack of exposure to real hip-hop. 
 

i remember to this day some of the amazing recommendations I got from here. 
 

To name a few, I remember Cal’s wild enthusiasm for Ghostface, DOOM, Madlib, And   Dilla. I actually don’t remember anyone being able to articulate their love and why they loved that stuff the way that Cal could. 
 

I remember Boozy as the champion of hardcore underground stuff and introducing me to Non Phixion, Arsonists, Necro, and JMT. 
 

i remember Das declaring Cappo’s “Spaz the World” to be “the most complete UK hip-hop album ever.” I was like… we have hip-hop in the UK?!

 

i remember swapping mix CDs and posting them out to each other. In fact, I discovered a few of these CDs in a drawer recently and bumped them for a week recently. 
 

I remember hearing TROY, I Used to Love Her and the 6th Sense for the first time and being, absolutely blown away. 

 

You guys put me onto Jehst, Braintax, and Task Force. I remember all the buzz around some of 9th Wonders amazing period and checking stuff like Little Brother, Sean P, Boot Camp Clik and more.
 

And those are just a few specifics so sorry if I’ve failed to remember or acknowledge everyone who helped me. All of these artists and many more were a permanent fixture of my listening habits for many years to come. 
 

And I really feel you about music getting through tough times. Actually, it’s precisely what drew me back in after a number of years out. Recently, I’ve really healed my soul with some fantastic music. It’s so powerful! 

 

Feel free to share anything that  you felt was particularly powerful in that regard. Here’s a couple of tracks for me that both helped me face my issues and then begin to move on from them. 
 

 


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Back when I was 19 I took a job in a bank and met a guy called Dave.  Dave was a good mate a nice bloke but had a bit of an edge about him, someone you wouldn't really fuck with.  He got me into hip-hop.  He got me listening to NWA, Tupac, Eminem, those type of gangsta rap and commercial stuff.  See, when I was younger I always loved music but spent the majority of my youth listening to Bob Marley.  I also had a hankering for my Dad's record collection, Dire Straits etc. Hip hop to me was something I wasn't a fan of.  I remember a mate used to listen to Cypress Hill all the time, I thought it was shit! (I don't anymore!)

Roll on a few years and I left the bank and took a job in the government.  There I met Dave.  Not Edgy Dave, but Dave (later known as Dai).  I got Dai on to this forum for this very thread.  He took rhe moniker Daimond D, a man who seriously knows his underground Hip-hop.  Now Dai is where I truly learnt about hip-hop.  He leant me album after album of quality underground Hip-hop.  MF DOOM, Jehst, Farma G, Non Phixion, Braintax amongst others. He introduced me to 36 Chambers, Public Enemy, MF Grimm, Nas all the greats and a lot of shit you'd never here unless you knew what you were looking for.  He promoted a live event in Bristol called Funkified, where he would try and get the biggest and best talent either from America or UK based. He got Q-Bert to play a couple of times, my mind was fucking blown! DJ Yoda was a bit of a regular back then too, until he got too expensive!  So that's really where my love of underground hip-hop started, back when I was 24.  I was listening to stuff that had been out 10/15 years prior and loving it.  90s early 2000 hip-hop is still where my heart lies.

(By the way, Dai is still alive even if I speak like he isn't! 🤣).

 

From 24 on I've seen loads of gigs, De La Soul countless times, DOOM, GZA (worse gig ever!), Lord Finesse, Ghostface, Edan etc etc, awesome nights out I'll never forget.

 

I don't spend time in this thread anymore due to life etc and not having much time to listen to music.  Recently my life changed though and I'm finding it theraputic to be back looking at posts in here and seeing some familiar faces. This thread introduced me to so much good music I would never of found on my own.  Back in the day, as said before, it was buzzing with new releases and hot debates.  I remember when we tried to get its own sub topic!!

 

Ive not listened to much hip-hop recently, being so out of touch I just missed so much shit.  I'll be keeping an eye on this thread though from now on.

 

big up the rllmuk hip-hop crew!

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4 hours ago, Mr. Gerbik said:

 

 

 

New EP from Wounded Buffalo Beats and it's great


This is great. I actually posted a track from their main project this year earlier in the thread! if you liked that, you’ll love this…
 

 

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On 04/09/2021 at 13:48, Chewylegs said:

Back when I was 19 I took a job in a bank and met a guy called Dave.  Dave was a good mate a nice bloke but had a bit of an edge about him, someone you wouldn't really fuck with.  He got me into hip-hop.  He got me listening to NWA, Tupac, Eminem, those type of gangsta rap and commercial stuff.  See, when I was younger I always loved music but spent the majority of my youth listening to Bob Marley.  I also had a hankering for my Dad's record collection, Dire Straits etc. Hip hop to me was something I wasn't a fan of.  I remember a mate used to listen to Cypress Hill all the time, I thought it was shit! (I don't anymore!)

Roll on a few years and I left the bank and took a job in the government.  There I met Dave.  Not Edgy Dave, but Dave (later known as Dai).  I got Dai on to this forum for this very thread.  He took rhe moniker Daimond D, a man who seriously knows his underground Hip-hop.  Now Dai is where I truly learnt about hip-hop.  He leant me album after album of quality underground Hip-hop.  MF DOOM, Jehst, Farma G, Non Phixion, Braintax amongst others. He introduced me to 36 Chambers, Public Enemy, MF Grimm, Nas all the greats and a lot of shit you'd never here unless you knew what you were looking for.  He promoted a live event in Bristol called Funkified, where he would try and get the biggest and best talent either from America or UK based. He got Q-Bert to play a couple of times, my mind was fucking blown! DJ Yoda was a bit of a regular back then too, until he got too expensive!  So that's really where my love of underground hip-hop started, back when I was 24.  I was listening to stuff that had been out 10/15 years prior and loving it.  90s early 2000 hip-hop is still where my heart lies.

(By the way, Dai is still alive even if I speak like he isn't! 🤣).

 

From 24 on I've seen loads of gigs, De La Soul countless times, DOOM, GZA (worse gig ever!), Lord Finesse, Ghostface, Edan etc etc, awesome nights out I'll never forget.

 

I don't spend time in this thread anymore due to life etc and not having much time to listen to music.  Recently my life changed though and I'm finding it theraputic to be back looking at posts in here and seeing some familiar faces. This thread introduced me to so much good music I would never of found on my own.  Back in the day, as said before, it was buzzing with new releases and hot debates.  I remember when we tried to get its own sub topic!!

 

Ive not listened to much hip-hop recently, being so out of touch I just missed so much shit.  I'll be keeping an eye on this thread though from now on.

 

big up the rllmuk hip-hop crew!

I’ve thrown myself back at it this year. I’ve checked 180 fresh albums this year. There’s been so much great stuff. Sure lots of “new school” stuff but also loads of awesome throw-back 90s stuff too! 

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Just to say, for what it's worth if stuff is posted in here I will always try and listen to it, but will do better at dropping some likes or comments in. I don't think we'll ever get back to those heady days of pages long monthly threads with Megaupload links littered all over the show and what seemed like a classic a week coming out, but this is still a great source of knowledge with some truly enlightened contributors. Will do better.

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On 09/09/2021 at 11:51, Mr. Gerbik said:

 

 

In terms of young talent in the hip hop game, KAAN needs to be mentioned more often


Just discovered this guy recently too. I haven’t heard much, but his project KAIZEN is really nice, and some decent features including Blu, Rugged Man and AFRO. Definitely worth a spin!

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On 11/09/2021 at 14:06, kthxbliz said:


Just discovered this guy recently too. I haven’t heard much, but his project KAIZEN is really nice, and some decent features including Blu, Rugged Man and AFRO. Definitely worth a spin!

Going to check KAIZEN out, I like KAAN and all of those featurings are a who's who of who Mr. Gerbik deems to be dope.  Speaking of Blu:

^love this track

 

And while I'm here, we need some hard shit on a Monday morning:

 

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9 hours ago, Mr. Gerbik said:

Going to check KAIZEN out, I like KAAN and all of those featurings are a who's who of who Mr. Gerbik deems to be dope.  Speaking of Blu:

^love this track

 

And while I'm here, we need some hard shit on a Monday morning:

 

Blu is brilliant. Below the Heavens a classic in my eyes. I dunno if any of his later stuff quite hit the same level of greatness! 

 

What do we think of Rome Streetz joining Griselda?

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What a year so far. I’ve now listened to just over 220 fresh projects this year. Anyone who says hip-hop is dead is basically sleeping. I also don’t like Autotune and generic trap beats, so that narrowed down my choice A LOT. Still found so many amazing projects and new artists. Not gonna lie, I’ve had to go digging, but it’s been worth it. 
 

 

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I can't for the life of me work out what it is, but there's a weird album that keeps getting recommended on Spotify that seems to be Chuck D and the Bomb Squad with some maybe Turkish dudes. I can't tell if it's legit or not, but it's got words like 'Zionist Terrorists' in the titles and has Professor Griff on so have steered well clear as of now. 

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On 22/09/2021 at 18:13, Art Vandelay said:

I can't for the life of me work out what it is, but there's a weird album that keeps getting recommended on Spotify that seems to be Chuck D and the Bomb Squad with some maybe Turkish dudes. I can't tell if it's legit or not, but it's got words like 'Zionist Terrorists' in the titles and has Professor Griff on so have steered well clear as of now. 


I’ve seen some weird stuff tagged to artists that it clearly doesn’t belong to. I am guessing this is also a recent project you’ve been “recommended.” My gut feeling is that there’s little verification process for collaborative projects being uploaded to Spotify and they rely on retrospective reports before they look into it. Essentially, the Turkish guys have tagged Chuck D as a collaborative artist and Spotify takes their word for it. 

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