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Just got back from seeing this. A solid film, with Cruise turned up to 11.

The basic plot is very Bond-lite and the villain may as well have just been a disembodied hand which occasionally hovers over a big red button, but the story is well told, with the characters playing off against each other nicely. Saying that, I didn't think Pegg's character was handled all that well. He works great as part of the team and is clearly the comic relief, but there were moments when his bumbling in the field detracted from otherwise tense moments.

Some stand out set pieces throughout, and I thought the ending was a really well thought out scene.

Overall I loved it, but can't say I felt it was as good as the third outing. The film sorely lacked the tension and personal edge which Hoffman's bone evil character brought to the story, and the score and framing of the action never quite came together in a way which tops either the bridge ambush or skyscraper dive from the third outing.

I can't see anyone who liked the previous films coming away disappointed with this however, but three remains the peak for me, with this just behind it.

This pretty much nails how I felt about it, although I liked Pegg more and the ending less. Some of the action nailed that brutal 'oof' feeling that I haven't seen since that amazing free running sequence at the start of Casino Royale.

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First things first: see it in IMAX if you can, it's absolutely stunning.

In terms of plot and bad guy, it could have been a Roger Moore Bond movie and yes, it peaks in the middle with the best action scene of the year and by far the best in the series. That Cruise did those stunts himself is pretty damn crazy.

But while if doesn't offer much in terms of plot or depth, it is wonderfully directed. Bird brings a wonderfully light touch to the table, the pacing is great and the action scenes are tremendous. Inventive, wonderfully shot, cut and choreographed and with no shaky cam to give you a headache. It's quite funny at times as well and Paula Patton is a stunner. Characters all get their chance to shine, the music is great and the gadgets are easily the coolest in the series.

It's also not just the Tom Cruise show, there's constant teamwork, more than in any MI to date.

Best in the series by far.

what action scene are you talking about?

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Just saw it on the IMAX. Enjoyed it, very good and all that, but not as good as the third; there was nothing at all to rival Hoffman, and that was its major downfall.

I'm not too keen on the over-reliance on wacky, super-tech gadgets too, especially when a bit of rope or a silenced pistol could probably do the same job. It made it a bit goofy in places. A Mission: Impossible film played a bit straighter would be more thrilling, I expect. Not quite Bourne, but a little more towards that. Still, had plenty of fun; the Dubai scenes looked spectacular on the big screen, and there were lots of bangs.

Did anyone else notice one of Max's henchmen in the original M:I crop up again in this? :hat:

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M:I >>>>>> M:I 3 > M:I - GP >>>>>>>>>>>>>> M:I 2.

This was... OK, with biths of meh. I'm going to watch the first film again, just because I can.

Good lad. I think it's only us two in here that think the first is far superior to any of the others. I haven't seen Ghost Protocol yet though, but it'll have to be something special to dislodge the orginal from its perch.

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Oh no, I prefer the original too. It's the only one that nailed the realistic IMF team setup. Love it. The others I regard as flashy spy movies, from another series almost, but M:I-3 is the best of them. The more I think about GP the more I want to see it again though.

They really need to make another one in the style of the first now.

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I actually think Ghost Protocol is the one that has the best team dynamics. Everybody in the team has a crucial role during all the key scenes and it's a better movie because of it. That and it ditches the boring mask thing almost completely.

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Enjoyable but I have a small reservation with

the vertical car park fight. I looked like it was veering dangerously towards the Star Wars Ep 2 Droid Factory scene for a bit. But with less CG. But I guess it worked out in the end.

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Just back from seeing it.

I loved the fact that there were some moments, where I could hear myself thinking 'Ouch!', due to some of the fight scenes

and general impact sounds of things being hurtled around the screen.

Compare that to bollocks like Knight & Day, which had the same rating and everyone appeared to be made out of rubber.

Some great stuff in there, liked the brutality and stripped down nature of a lot of it,(gadgets either not available or failing to work properly).

Making it more of a team mission helped immeasurably, with Hunt having to rely on the other members to help him.

Unfortunately, it kind ran out of steam for me towards the end. I stopped giving a shit about the 'plot' and wanted to

go home and watch M:I:III, which I'm about to do. I didn't dislike it, as such, it just left me with an empty feeling.

Oh, and...

Did anyone else think that the extremely dull villain squaring up to Hunt, was a bit silly?

He looked like he'd been studying pies, not fighting.

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I think some people are kidding themselves on this one. I saw it a bit late here in Japan but a lot of it was really cheap and boring after MI3 in particular which I liked.

If it is the most exciting thing anyone has seen in years I'd be concerned. MI3 was almost nonstop and this was almost nonstart.

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I think some people are kidding themselves on this one. I saw it a bit late here in Japan but a lot of it was really cheap and boring after MI3 in particular which I liked.

If it is the most exciting thing anyone has seen in years I'd be concerned. MI3 was almost nonstop and this was almost nonstart.

This was my take on it too. I really liked the

jump back into the hotel room on the Burj

- that was something I'd never seen before, and was a real 'heart in mouth' moment. But the rest of the film was very average I thought.

I particularly disliked the chase scene

in the sandstorm.

Couldn't see a damn thing, sapped all the tension right out of the scene.

At the very start of the movie, when the random secret agent jumped off a building and did a forward roll to break his fall it was so cheesy (a classic Roger Moore Bond move that) that I thought it was some pastiche of the secret agent genre, and it would pan back and Tom Cruise would be watching some old movie on TV. Some of the one-liners were awful too. I kept thinking the whole way through "if this was animated as the sequel to The Incredibles I think I'd be enjoying it a lot more". The action was quite deliberate and slapstick funny, but not modern, adult, subtle or unexpected in any way. So in my mind, not well suited to M:I.

Not a bad film by any stretch, but as you can tell I was distinctly underwhelmed.

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I actually felt this harked back to the original series a bit more, with some amusing odd moments, plenty of action and a good amount of team work. PersonallyI didnt really get on with MI3, a bit too much action which ended up with it me thinking - oh here we go again, another action scene. MI1&2 too are both great films and this sits nicely inbetween the two.

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This was my take on it too. I really liked the

jump back into the hotel room on the Burj

- that was something I'd never seen before, and was a real 'heart in mouth' moment. But the rest of the film was very average I thought.

I would also agree that the whole sequence involving the tower was really well done and

when he bounced off the window frame almost everyone in the theater made some kind of noise

but as an overall package, although 3 doesn't have a moment or set piece which is as gripping as that, it is an overall more entertaining picture I think. Number 1 is an interesting DePalma mystery. Number 3 is a full out crazy adventurethon and it seems the even numbered films in the series simply are. They are just there.

Also anyone saying this is more team based than previous films, I can't see that reasoning at all. This is almost exactly as team based as the last picture to a T, as if they worked out last time an acceptable amount of team work vs Tom Cruise

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I would also agree that the whole sequence involving the tower was really well done and

when he bounced off the window frame almost everyone in the theater made some kind of noise

but as an overall package, although 3 doesn't have a moment or set piece which is as gripping as that, it is an overall more entertaining picture I think. Number 1 is an interesting DePalma mystery. Number 3 is a full out crazy adventurethon and it seems the even numbered films in the series simply are. They are just there.

Also anyone saying this is more team based than previous films, I can't see that reasoning at all. This is almost exactly as team based as the last picture to a T, as if they worked out last time an acceptable amount of team work vs Tom Cruise

Perhaps I need to go back and watch 3 again then as I was having a conversation with my mate down the pub yesterday and he was saying how excellent it is. I just dont remember liking it.

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I actually felt this harked back to the original series a bit more, with some amusing odd moments, plenty of action and a good amount of team work. PersonallyI didnt really get on with MI3, a bit too much action which ended up with it me thinking - oh here we go again, another action scene. MI1&2 too are both great films and this sits nicely inbetween the two.

You thought M:I-3 had too much action, but consider M:I-2 a great film? The second film was all flashy action with absolutely zero substance. It wasn't even as good as Face/Off.

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And didn't Dougray Scott pass on playing Wolverine to do M:I-2? lol.

Reading that, I was convinced X-Men and M:I2 were a few years apart, but having checked, they are the same year after all. Weird how my memory has one much older than the other.

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As great as the Burj Khalifa scene was, I thought this veered unfortunately into 'silly' territory. The third one has some outrageous stunts but takes itself semi-seriously and is witty rather than jokey. In Ghost Protocol the threat of nuclear war is treated like a big laugh. As a previous poster mentioned, there is a whiff of Attack Of The Clones during the final action scene. I also thought it got dangerously close to making Ethan Hunt an indestructible superhero, as happened with John McClane in Die Hard 4. At that point the action loses its impact.

I also didn't like the way the plot acted like loose fibres to string together some action sequences, as with the crappier Bond films, in contrast to the more personal story in the third, that helped give the amazing action scenes real purpose. I was totally sold on how much was at stake from the bridge scene onwards in MI-3, whereas I felt I was just watching GP to see some stunts and cool gadgets.

Am I right in thinking that Simon Pegg had a special gadget that

planed the number off a hotel room plaque and etched a new one in? Surely a screwdriver would have sufficed and they could have just, you know, swapped the two plaques over?

It was enjoyable enough and worth going to see for hotel segment, but I don't think it bodes well for future instalments. A definite "in one ear out the other" experience, compared to MI-3, which I wanted to see again as soon as it was over, and is still one of the best action films of the last 10 years.

Oh, and the entire first third of the movie is spoiled by the trailer, meaning I was waiting for

the IMF to be put in the frame for blowing up the Kremlin and for Tom Wilkinson to die

before I could really get into it.

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Am I right in thinking that Simon Pegg had a special gadget that

planed the number off a hotel room plaque and etched a new one in? Surely a screwdriver would have sufficed and they could have just, you know, swapped the two plaques over?

Oh aye, I'd forgotten about that :facepalm:

In fact, that very gadget pretty much sums up what was wrong with GP. In the first film you had some exploding gum, a camera embedded in a pair of glasses, some spray that showed up a certain colour on video and Luther's 1337 hacking skills. All that shit was fucking cool. It was regular stuff, and made the task of breaking into Langley even more tense. Even the second film was light on the ridiculous and unnecessary gadgets, from what I can remember.

And what about the projection screen? It was rubbish. They could have just shot a dart into the guy, or something.

And yes, I didn't like:

the sandstorm car chase either. No tension at all, really. He was chasing a dot, which was rubbish, and you couldn't see anything. It looked exactly like it had been ripped out of Uncharted 3.

Ack. It's annoying me now.

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Oh aye, I'd forgotten about that :facepalm:

In fact, that very gadget pretty much sums up what was wrong with GP. In the first film you had some exploding gum, a camera embedded in a pair of glasses, some spray that showed up a certain colour on video and Luther's 1337 hacking skills. All that shit was fucking cool. It was regular stuff, and made the task of breaking into Langley even more tense. Even the second film was light on the ridiculous and unnecessary gadgets, from what I can remember.

And what about the projection screen? It was rubbish. They could have just shot a dart into the guy, or something.

And yes, I didn't like:

the sandstorm car chase either. No tension at all, really. He was chasing a dot, which was rubbish, and you couldn't see anything. It looked exactly like it had been ripped out of Uncharted 3.

Ack. It's annoying me now.

Yeah the whole projection scene - whilst on paper sounds like a great idea - just seemed a little overblown. I'm sure taking he guy out would have been quicker ! I also thought that a few other times the gadgets just seemed a little over the top for what they were doing.

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Yeah the whole projection scene - whilst on paper sounds like a great idea - just seemed a little overblown. I'm sure taking he guy out would have been quicker ! I also thought that a few other times the gadgets just seemed a little over the top for what they were doing.

Not only that, the thing utterly failed when another person came into the corridor :lol: Rubbish.

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