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You've missed my point.

I was talking about white music journalists claiming that he lost his black American fanbase when the fact is he never did. I was not huge fan of his in the 90's but stating that the 40 million albums he sold in the 90's were only to white people is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard on Newsnight.

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It was more a case of sane America disowning him after it became clear he shared his bed with young boys.

Yes, we get it. Michael Jackson slept with young boys. I really don't see the connection between that and his music.

Anyway, I always found this MJ song criminally under-rated:

:lol:

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It was more a case of sane America disowning him after it became clear he shared his bed with young boys.

Keep it to the other thread, c'mon.

I really wish I had managed to see him in concert though. Not necessarily the london gigs - clearly even if they'd gone ahead he wouldn't have been up to it.

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I ended up watching the Newsnight Michael Jackson special last night. I can't stand the pair of them but Miranda Sawyer and Paul Morley were claiming that black America disowned Jackson after the Bad album, when really the fact is he never lost that fanbase. Harlem was blowing up on the news last night. MTV had a call-in where Snoop, Rev Run and Fat Joe called in saying what he meant to them. When alive he had Pharrell, Timberland and Will I Am saying they wanted to work with him on a new album.

I guess for dickheads like Paul Morley he thinks because he stopped giving a shit after Thriller so did everyone else.

Yes he is a bit of a dickhead and a bit of a cunt, but really, anyone can say it, although the "fans" didn't give up after Thriller, truth is that from BAD onwards, he became musically irrelivant. Bad WAS bad.

I am a massive Prince fan and have bought most of his albums over the years, but if someone said "Everything Prince has done since Sign O the Times was irrelivant and a bit shit", I am inclined to agree its the truth. Wouldn't stop me going to see him in concert, as I have done many times, even recently at the O2, but everyone truthfully wants to hear the great stuff, 1987 or less.

With Jackson it was 1982 or less

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This.

This is the best thing he ever done.

It totally sealed my love for music, despite what little I had at the time/age.

The truest of the TRUFAX.

I remember at the age of 12 (or there abouts), seeing that on TV and being totally mesmerised by it. The Moonwalker game was right on top of my buy list after that, and it was surprisingly decent, with some great MD renditions of some of his hits.

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Yes he is a bit of a dickhead and a bit of a cunt, but really, anyone can say it, although the "fans" didn't give up after Thriller, truth is that from BAD onwards, he became musically irrelivant. Bad WAS bad.

I am a massive Prince fan and have bought most of his albums over the years, but if someone said "Everything Prince has done since Sign O the Times was irrelivant and a bit shit", I am inclined to agree its the truth. Wouldn't stop me going to see him in concert, as I have done many times, even recently at the O2, but everyone truthfully wants to hear the great stuff, 1987 or less.

With Jackson it was 1982 or less

Depends on individual taste (and maybe age; I never listened to him until the late-90s). Fourteen of the twenty tracks on the 'Best of' playlist I made on my Ipod are from Bad onwards.

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You've missed my point.

I was talking about white music journalists claiming that he lost his black American fanbase when the fact is he never did. I was not huge fan of his in the 90's but stating that the 40 million albums he sold in the 90's were only to white people is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard on Newsnight.

The Dangerous album was about his most black album as Teddy Riley was the Timberland of the early 90's and the New Jack Swing sound was huge back then.

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I used to be a huge fan when I was younger and remember blubbing like a baby when I got an Alba 'walkman' and the Bad cassette one Christmas, as I was so happy.

Seeing the videos of him back in his pomp really brings home how crazy it had all got by the time he died.

Still...that music...what a legacy.

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This reminds me of the Motown 25 performance; despite it blowing people away and kickstarting him properly as a real showman, he was reportedly unhappy with it, as he didn't stay on his toes long enough like he does in that .gif.

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Right, I'm just back from Berlin (where MJ was heard being played all over the place. Even motherfucking Berghain), so I've missed out on any decent tribute shows that may or may not have been on TV. Anything worth checking on the iPlayer and that?

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Vaguely nice cover version of 'I Wanna Be Where You Are' by The Roots and Erykah Badu here:

http://www.zshare.net/download/620752810f163b4b/

Obviously, it's nowhere near the greatness of either the Michael, Marvin or Leon Ware versions. It's most similar to the bloody Jose Feliciano soft jazz treatment, but still. A nice enough, obscure wee Michael tribute in amongst Billie Jean getting played all over the place.

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