Dredd 3D

[ZOK]

Yes, that’s true. I always thought Brett Ewins was rubbish, like a watered down version of the proper 2000AD artists. McCarthy is not someone I’d rank in my favourites either but he has done a lot of work that can reasonably lay claim to being incredible.

[Darwock]

McCarthy is the one who does all the vivid fluorescent trippy coloured stuff?

[Festoon]

On 26/08/2021 at 09:52, ZOK said:

It’s an interesting conversation because when it comes down to it, while Dredd is the main protagonist of the strip, it’s not really his story at all, more a sprawling story about the Mega-City itself, and what it does to the people who live in it, with Dredd as the cypher.

 

Which is another issue I have with Dredd 3D, and where it falls down by comparison with Judge Dredd. What do we learn about Mega-City One in that flick that you couldn’t already imagine if someone told you it was going to be a film about criminals in a future urban jungle? Absolutely nothing. It’s so devoid of imagination, which is a crime (clever Justice Department wordplay, cheers) when it is supposedly drawing from such a wildly abundant source.

 

I just can't agree with this. It was attempting to make the story understandable and introduce a very complex character. The Anderson story is completely different from the comic bit works really well.

[ZOK]

Yes - he’s also the guy who created  the designs for most of the key Zenith characters (and essentially gave them the idea for Zenith with Paradax).

 

EDIT: @Darwock

[ZOK]

6 minutes ago, Festoon said:

 

I just can't agree with this. It was attempting to make the story understandable and introduce a very complex character. The Anderson story is completely different from the comic bit works really well.

If you like it then you like it and there’s nothing wrong with that - but as far as I’m concerned it’s witless trash throughout.

[Festoon]

I want a Dredd film in the later McMahon style, like in Howler. I will accept nothing less as true Dredd.

[Festoon]

I've just found out that Olivia Thirlby is playing Hero Brown in Y: The Last Man. Hmm.

[Death's Head]

18 hours ago, ZOK said:

Yes - he’s also the guy who created  the designs for most of the key Zenith characters (and essentially gave them the idea for Zenith with Paradax).

 

EDIT: @Darwock

 

He also did the character designs for Reboot, and you can see the influence of the Judges in Bob's Guardian uniform. 

[Hanzo the Razor]

On 26/08/2021 at 09:52, ZOK said:

It’s an interesting conversation because when it comes down to it, while Dredd is the main protagonist of the strip, it’s not really his story at all, more a sprawling story about the Mega-City itself, and what it does to the people who live in it, with Dredd as the cypher.

 

Which is another issue I have with Dredd 3D, and where it falls down by comparison with Judge Dredd. What do we learn about Mega-City One in that flick that you couldn’t already imagine if someone told you it was going to be a film about criminals in a future urban jungle? Absolutely nothing. It’s so devoid of imagination, which is a crime (clever Justice Department wordplay, cheers) when it is supposedly drawing from such a wildly abundant source. Garland has always been a witless hack, and this is his film for sure.

 

I remember reading a Judge Dredd text story when I was a kid that was in a Summer Special or something, about a law-abiding citizen who commits the cardinal sin when living amongst 800 million people - he loses his temper. It was over something inconsequential, and everything spirals out of control, ending of course in the iso cubes. That sense of oppression really stuck with me, and it’s just one of the eight million stories in the naked Mega-City.
 

To fashion something so pedestrian out of such glorious material is simply a shame.

 

 

 

I saw Dredd in 3D at the flicks and the wife and I loved it. So I'm a fan of the film but I can see that there are other ways to do Dredd too. The problem is that the film flopped. If it had been a hit then any sequels could have told those other stories. If they had a bigger budget, a larger scope then that may have happened.

 

I would like to see a movie where we meet a protagonist who we get to like. They fuck up and end up with Dredd persuing them like The Terminator. Make Dredd the enemy. A terrifying, relentless figure.

[Don Wiskerando]

There's so much going on in comics Dredd that a single film couldn't ever do it justice.   It ranges from gritty cop drama to absurd futurist comedy.  I would personally like to see Dredd on film deal with Two Ton Tony Tubbs but that only has an impact following the food shortages post Apocalypse War.      

 

I think Urban did a great job of playing the character and the city was faithful to early MC1 in the comic based as it was on a near-future New York.

 

Put me in the easily pleased column.

[sandman]

I rewatched this yesterday as I got back late and wanted a short action movie. 
 

I wouldn’t have done any exterior stuff at all as it looks naff and totally non-mega city one. 
 

Apart from that it’s brilliant and as good as Urban is Thirlby totally steals the show.

[womblingfree]

I don’t understand how anyone that’s followed the comic over the years can think this is nothing like it. The entire movie is a re-telling of a rookie’s final street-test before becoming a Judge, just like in the comic.
 

The violence and atmosphere is pretty perfect, with Dredd criticising rookie Anderson and asking her questions while people are dying in beautifully filmed and imaginative ways all around. The main villain is interesting and as much a victim of Mega-City One as those she now victimises. There’s a great scene showing off the Lawgiver. They squeeze in elements of Block Wars, Psi Division and Judges gone bad. And in the final minute, after all the carnage and after Anderson saves Dredd, you suddenly realise that for Dredd it’s just another regular day and he’s still got to grade his rookie like it’s no more than a driving-test. 
 

Seemed like a very decent retelling of a typical John Wagner story, wry satire included. Could’ve tried being more expansive, or including more Otto Sump/Citizen Snork/Dave goof-ball satire, but by keeping it simple it was way more effective than trying and failing at anything further.

 

Doubt we’ll get a sequel or even TV show with the same cast after all this time. Shame. 

[cassidy]

[Lorfarius]

Thought this was a really good making of:

 

 

[ZOK]

5 minutes ago, Lorfarius said:

Thought this was a really good making of:

 

 

Look at it! Pretty much the main thing you have to get right from the outset in making a decent Judge Dredd film is getting Dredd’s look right, and these guys tripped up on the first hurdle.

 

He looks like he borrowed a helmet off his big brother, and because it’s too big he wants to cry.

[ZOK]

Dredd’s supposed to be looking through the eyeglass of his helmet, not having to try to peep out of the bottom:

 

 

It’s so fucking bad.

[ZOK]

And the funny thing about Dredd is I quite enjoyed it while I was watching it. It’s only when you stop to think about it afterwards you realise how half-arsed the whole thing is, and what a wasted opportunity.

[Festoon]

3 hours ago, ZOK said:

And the funny thing about Dredd is I quite enjoyed it while I was watching it. It’s only when you stop to think about it afterwards you realise how half-arsed the whole thing is, and what a wasted opportunity.

 

What absolute nonsense.

[Festoon]

Those WTF videos are shit.

[BoggyB]

I agree that the helmets proportions are a bit janky but the film is fucking great so I barely notice it.

[boomeh]

Id just like to post this scene just to remind folk of how awesome this film is.

 

 

 

I had a mild obsession with this movie when it came out. I also bought this for way too much money when the movie did a prop sale in order to try and claw back some of the money it didn't make.

 

 

It can be seen during the scene above when one of the gang members gets shot the fuck up. 

Also yeah 10 years later i still don't know quite what to do with it. Maybe display it like this if I ever go fully insane.

 

 

 

[monkeydog]

9 hours ago, boomeh said:

10 years later i still don't know quite what to do with it.

 

Wear it every single day, even if it doesn't fit and it's desperately inappropriate attire, like at the beach.  It would make you a piece of living art.

[Lorfarius]

I liked the wobbly bits.

[ucci]

The slowmo bits were ok, but more of a gimmick using 3d. Geoff Barrow gets applause for the score though- superb and made me seek out >BEAK (the band ahem). 

[boomeh]

6 hours ago, monkeydog said:

 

Wear it every single day, even if it doesn't fit and it's desperately inappropriate attire, like at the beach.  It would make you a piece of living art.

Ha! off to buy milk in my post apocalyptic wear

[Don Rosco]

2 hours ago, ucci said:

Geoff Barrow gets applause for the score

 

He didn't do the score of the actual film, it was a chap called Paul Leonard-Morgan. I believe Barrow was in the frame, or wanted to do it or something, and actually made music but it didn't make the film. He released it anyway: https://www.invada.co.uk/products/geoff-barrow-ben-salisbury-drokk-music-inspired-by-mega-city-one-2019-special-edition-re-issue

[Simmy]

The CGI squibs in that Ma-Ma video, holy shit I don't remember it being that bad. It looks awful!

[Hideous Kojima]

Only here could people think a Judge Dredd movie in the style of Die Hard is shite.

[Padaxes]

Dredd is great.  That is all

[K]

I love the look of Dredd so much. It’s so different from the usual glossy sci-fi aesthetic; it looks grimy and nasty, with a kind of mid-Atlantic vibe as befits a comic set in America with a European creative staff, coupled with a VHS feel that reminds me of the mid to late nineties, when I used to read 2000AD. 

 

The film looks exactly like the kind of thing I would watch at Danny Mullan’s house with the curtains drawn, if his mum was out for the afternoon and the guy in Scotforth Video who’d rent anything to anyone was working that day.