Official Mixed Martial Arts Thread

[angel]

Larkin was angling for bellator, most likely the UFC chose to pass (they have the right to match on any contracted fighter). Rogan was saying fighters are trying to get cut and go get paid abroad, including Werdum, hence him refusing fights.

[McFly]

Yeah i was hearing on Rogan how Werdum is big mates with the Chechan leader, dunno how popular thatd be with some of the Russian fans. Im not very clued up on Russia these days so it might be ok.

 

 

 

[Doomguy]

19 hours ago, angel said:

Larkin was angling for bellator, most likely the UFC chose to pass (they have the right to match on any contracted fighter). Rogan was saying fighters are trying to get cut and go get paid abroad, including Werdum, hence him refusing fights.

 

Seems like a smart move. If even mid carders were making 200,000 plus from sponsorship then why in the fuck would you want to work your ass off for 2500 plus some reebok trainers. 

 

Remember when Dana white said ' we won't keep any of the money.' 

 

O'rly, dana? I'd be interested to see where that 70 million went then because so far a fighter would have to have fought 20 times to earn 20 grand. WTF. 

[McFly]

Even now i look at the Reebok deal and want to scream "WTF were you thinking!?!" To build such an amazing product then ruin it in one stroke was baffling.

[Doomguy]

No Diaz bros on 209. Nice one UFC. Instead we have Woodley headlining - maybe the least liked fighter in UFC history at this point. 

 

Wondering what the reem will look like against Hunt.

 

 

35lbs lost at this point. 

 

Ferguson vs Kabib. Can they both lose? that'd be nice. 

 

[McFly]

I wonder if the ring card girls eye up fighters and then ask them out after the weigh-ins? Speaking of which shouldnt there be ring card guys for the womens fights?

[Orion]

2 hours ago, Stevedave said:

No Diaz bros on 209. Nice one UFC. Instead we have Woodley headlining - maybe the least liked fighter in UFC history at this point. 

 

 

 

The Diaz Brothers don't want to fight anyone even if Stockton 209. Nick turned down Lawler and Maia. They want Conor/GSP or title shots. Until one of those morons runs out of money they will keep saying no. You can't blame the UFC for that.

 

209 is breaking no records but I'm really looking forward to the main card.

[Yobo Ahoy]

Haha where did that come from? @McFly

 

Anyway as for 209 I can't wait, such a good card. I think Woodley will win handily this time (although I hope he doesn't) and as for the co main I have no idea. I'm leaning towards Ferg by late KO but I think it will be messy. 

 

Postcode coincidences aside, I don't care about the Diaz brothers, they have dug themselves into an irrelevant hole and they can stay there as far as I am concerned.

[glb]

Psyched for 209, starting with Mothra Vs Godzilla, which should be explosive and quick.

 

I really haven't warmed to Khabib, so hoping Ferguson wins that one but know he probably won't. Think Woodley will get a relatively quick TKO / KO, even though I'm crossing everything that Wonderboy wins the belt. Really don't get what Woodley's issue is; guess his strength and power comes from carrying that chip around on his shoulder all the time.

[McFly]

11 hours ago, Yobo Ahoy said:

Haha where did that come from? @McFly

Its been on my mind for a while tbh, in the second Overeem picture the girl (Chrissy?) Seems pretty amped looking at Alistair so seems logical she might think "Thatd do me" and act on it. As for the ring guys it just seems fair.

11 hours ago, Yobo Ahoy said:

Anyway as for 209 I can't wait, such a good card. I think Woodley will win handily this time (although I hope he doesn't) and as for the co main I have no idea. I'm leaning towards Ferg by late KO but I think it will be messy. 

 

Postcode coincidences aside, I don't care about the Diaz brothers, they have dug themselves into an irrelevant hole and they can stay there as far as I am concerned.

Spot on. What was once endearing is now just stupid.

 

Cant wait for the fights.

[glb]

You hear about the Olympic Village being some sort of global orgy fest, with all the fit athletes (and shotputters) just making hay for two weeks, so stands to reason that UFC locker rooms, with similarly youthful enthusiasm, probably are rife with snapchatting or sexting or whatever it is young, free and singles do to get a hook-up these days.

 

 at the idea of ring boys, not because I think it's an unfair suggestion, but more the crowd reaction when the UFC goes on the road to the South and you've got a ring boy prancing around in hot pants and a load of beered-up rednecks confused at the stirring in their loins between rounds.

[McFly]

Yeah thats true, Brazillian crowds might be hostile to. Just have to make sure the boys are physically and mentally robust enough to endure heavy abuse.

[Doomguy]

Interesting reading the numbers on Woodley in terms of popularity. He has less followers and general interest than anyone the UFC has ever pushed this much by half. It's quite jarring. We know he's an asshole but he is the champ, has been a commentator, hosted the the fox show, and done the weigh run downs. 

 

Any ideas why there's such a massive disinterest in woodley?  

[McFly]

Its really strange isnt it? Same with Mighty Mouse although saying that ive never been a big fan of 125lbers in general. Woodley blames race which is complete ballocks as Jones was black and super popular. Tyron and DJ are just bland i suppose, despite being amazing fighters they somehow come across as dull.

[schmojo]

I find DJ to be really endearing guy as well as an amazing fighter. 

 

But (despite the flag-waving pretense of being a good guy that you get with so many fighters) most UFC fans don't want a hard working fighter who comes across as an honest, nice guy.

 

They want giant cartoon villains, playground bullies, stoners, jocks, acrobats and contrived rivalries.

 

The crowd don't care that DJ can finish all the people in his weight class (and most of the people at BW). Probably because they secretly like to think they could batter him. I hope he goes back to 135 once he's picked up the title defense record. He deserves to make some money.

 

Tyron's just unpleasant, and not smart enough to make that his gimmick. Which would be money. Instead he's a badass who sounds like a wiener which is off-putting for TapOut types. Having no real defenses, and nobody believing he's the best 170lber on the planet, is what probably puts everyone else off.

[glb]

I think that's it for me with Woodley, he's not witty or intelligent with the weird 'heel' persona he projects. In some of the previews he comes across much better especially when you see his focus on training and home, but then he undoes that with dickish statements that sound completely hollow, and make him sound a twat.

 

Chat at work the other day was we'd like to see Romero go up to LH and face DC. Rockhold going up wouldn't be too much of a stretch either, just to put some new names in the mix once Jon 'He'll Never Main Event Again... Here Have the Winner of Cormier Rumble' Jones is back in the picture.

[Yobo Ahoy]

9 hours ago, schmojo said:

Having no real defenses, and nobody believing he's the best 170lber on the planet, is what probably puts everyone else off.

 

Also the fact that he got the title shot in the first place via a Condit injury, a Hendricks botched weight cut and sitting on his arse and moaning for 18 months.

[schmojo]

21 minutes ago, glb said:

Chat at work the other day was we'd like to see Romero go up to LH and face DC. Rockhold going up wouldn't be too much of a stretch either, just to put some new names in the mix once Jon 'He'll Never Main Event Again... Here Have the Winner of Cormier Rumble' Jones is back in the picture.

 

Oh man, if anyone could deal with DC's wrestling (apart from Jones), it's surely Romero? 

 

Great shout.

[schmojo]

2 minutes ago, Yobo Ahoy said:

 

Also the fact that he got the title shot in the first place via a Condit injury, a Hendricks bodged weight cut and sitting on his arse and moaning for 18 months.

 

He's a perfect heel, if he decided to play up to it.

 

It also helps that 170lbs is full of 'good guys' for him to slander: Thompson, Lawler, Cerrone, Brown, GSP, Condit, Maia.

[Yobo Ahoy]

http://www.mmafighting.com/2017/2/23/14721102/fireworks-erupt-between-khabib-nurmagomedov-tony-ferguson-in-heated-ufc-209-conference-call

 

 

 

I am so up for this fight. It feels like UFC has done very little to promote it which is daft, as I have said before I think this is the most legit fight they can put on at the mo in any division.

[schmojo]

That's an awesome call. Slice it up. Make it your promos for 209. 

 

End them all with "This is your last fight in UFC. I’m going to break your face. I’m going to break your career.”

 

I don't like Tony Ferguson's attitude, but he's an awesome fighter and he's earned a lot. After seeing Khabib struggle with some of Johnson's early striking, I'm not sure I see the steamrolling I once did. But I want to. I want Khabib to continue his run, make his claim as the world's greatest LW and set up an enormous fight in Russia.

 

WAR KHABIB!

[Gotters]

those top 2 fights make the card look very promising

 

I do like a bit of argy bargy before a fight but they all seem so second rate at it after Conor - a lot of this may be genuine in terms of how they feel, but its just blokes slinging playground insults at each other with every other word being 'fuck', there is little charisma or humour actually on display.

[McFly]

I seriously cant wait for that fight. Its hard to see past Khabib even though Tonys record is stronger on paper, i think Khabib will rise to the occassion. I just hope for a good fight and no controversial reffing

[schmojo]

58 minutes ago, Gotters said:

those top 2 fights make the card look very promising

 

I do like a bit of argy bargy before a fight but they all seem so second rate at it after Conor - a lot of this may be genuine in terms of how they feel, but its just blokes slinging playground insults at each other with every other word being 'fuck', there is little charisma or humour actually on display.

 

They're trained to be fighters though, no comedians or promoters. Can't hold that against them.

 

But then I think I'm one of the few who rolls their eyes when Conor reels off another hackneyed, empty line to sell tickets to something he doesn't care about.

 

I really hope that these athletes don't end up in the McGregor Entertainment business, rather than the MMA business, but people seem to genuinely want it. And that cash has to be tempting for them.

[Gotters]

2 minutes ago, schmojo said:

 

They're trained to be fighters though, no comedians or promoters. Can't hold that against them.

 

 

I do get that, its just that for me the whole Conor circus brings a level of excitement to a whole fight week and card that only Lesnar has got near.

 

Not listened yet but looking forward to hearing Cruz on the latest Rogan.

[angel]

Khabib Ferguson is almost a week away, it's totally crept up on me. Khabib better not AKA himself.

[Doomguy]

What are the chances of either of these guys actually fighting Conor? Seems like whoever wins is going to be in for a long wait.

[glb]

Conor's list of opponents is currently:

 

Mayweather

GSP

Nate Diaz

Aldo

Tyron Woodley

Batman and/or Superman

John Cena

His Own Shadow

Ginger People

Lord Lucan

Dana White

A Giant Bag of Money

A Title Defence (Doubtful)

Space and Time Itself

 

He's got a busy year ahead!

 

 

[McFly]

2 hours ago, Stevedave said:

What are the chances of either of these guys actually fighting Conor? Seems like whoever wins is going to be in for a long wait.

Yeah 2018 is most likely, hence the interim LW belt (iirc), if Conor/Mayweather happens he might even leave the UFC and never defend his belt but thats a long shot i suppose.

[Doomguy]

Conors never defended a belt ever. Like in anything even the lower league promotions. I think he gets beat in his first title defense.