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Demian Maia has had a really interesting career arc. In the UFC. First he gets to MW title contention with his BJJ, and then he forgets in pursuit of being a more complete stand up fighter and generalist. Now he's diving back into the deep water of BJJ, and making people look as vulnerable as Royce did all those years ago.

 

Great fighter, and seemingly a great guy.

 

I hope Condit sticks around. For me, that 'lost five out of the last 7' stat is more like losing 3, with one NC. Even if you're not as generous to him as me,  all the losses bar last night's came via champs. Thompson may be the new posterboy for WW stand up violence, but I'd hate to see him go.  

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Just caught up with Fight Night Vancouver, great main card. As much as I enjoy Conor's trash-talking, it can grate when it goes overboard (the bottle throwing). Seeing someone like Maia, who is technically astounding at what he does, and so humble, is a great contrast to all that nonsense. He dealt with Conduit, hardly a slouch, making doing so look as easy as he might submit one of us in the Octagon. Brilliant performance.

 

Paige VanZant's finish is stunning, right on the button, and the other two fights could have graced any recent numbered PPV, particularly Pettis Olivera. Pretty great time to be watching MMA, and plenty of mouth-watering events upcoming.

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Conduit?  Condit :)  

 

You're right in what you say for the most part, but I would also say you need the contrasting styles. Conor wouldn't be noteworthy if they were all brash WWE promo artists, nor would it be any fun if they were all humble "I will fight whoever the UFC put in front of me" fighters. I agree he is brilliant, but the humble persona is still that, it's a persona.

 

PVZ's finish got me out of my seat, unbelievable, even Rose Namajunas congratulated her on twitter. Pettis did well too, although he needs a dose of the humble medicine sometimes. As soon as he wins you can see him wanting to start the self promotion. You should see him on facebook too, he puts about 10 hashtags on the end of anything he says #thisishowwedoit #roufus #stayhumble #embracethegrind  etc etc, it's pretty annoying.

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29 minutes ago, angel said:

 

 Pettis did well too, although he needs a dose of the humble medicine sometimes. As soon as he wins you can see him wanting to start the self promotion. You should see him on facebook too, he puts about 10 hashtags on the end of anything he says #thisishowwedoit #roufus #stayhumble #embracethegrind  etc etc, it's pretty annoying.

 

I let it slide, you really have to believe in yourself and have an ego if you're a successful fighter.

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38 minutes ago, angel said:

Conduit?  Condit :)  

 

You're right in what you say for the most part, but I would also say you need the contrasting styles. Conor wouldn't be noteworthy if they were all brash WWE promo artists, nor would it be any fun if they were all humble "I will fight whoever the UFC put in front of me" fighters. I agree he is brilliant, but the humble persona is still that, it's a persona.

 

PVZ's finish got me out of my seat, unbelievable, even Rose Namajunas congratulated her on twitter. Pettis did well too, although he needs a dose of the humble medicine sometimes. As soon as he wins you can see him wanting to start the self promotion. You should see him on facebook too, he puts about 10 hashtags on the end of anything he says #thisishowwedoit #roufus #stayhumble #embracethegrind  etc etc, it's pretty annoying.

 

Condit! Ha, can't even blame iPhone autocorrect for that one.

 

Oh totally, the UFC needs the balance between brash and humble. And humble rarely sells events. That said, I'm excited for the build-up to DC Vs Rumble (once it's confirmed), as both are pretty respectful of each other; hopefully they can keep that up and won't be cajoled into false trash-talking. Sure there is enough interest without with it being a rematch, and after Rumble nearly sent Glover's lower jaw into orbit, plus plenty of fans want to see DC lose.

 

Can't watch that VanZant finish enough times. It is stunning, end-of-year highlight reel quality.

 

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42 minutes ago, Scratchy Bollock said:

Why is DC hated so much? Is it his fighting style? 

 

Where to even start. I'm not saying these are my opinions, just answering your question. He's the champ who never dethroned the previous champ, he fought a safety first gameplan against the 2 day notice Anderson Silva, his analysis on Fox is divisive, he's a bit WWE in his promo, but the most egregious one (for me personally) is the way he talks to the camera when broadcasting.

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44 minutes ago, Scratchy Bollock said:

Why is DC hated so much? Is it his fighting style? 

I like DC, but I find it kind of pathetic how he always tries to take the moral high ground with Jones "I'm a good guy, Jon Jones is a bad person!". Dude, this is a fist fight, talk some trash about how you're going to kick his ass or something, this ain't the Ultimate Morality Championship. It's like he's begging people to root for him, which never works.

 

That and how he really lets the boos get to him. People always like to boo their fighter's opponent, but DC seemed to take it as some personal indictment of his character or something and went off on a rant about it. It was funny and sad. If you get triggered with some boos, people are going to try every time.

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I'd have liked to see Cormier take Chael Sonnens advice about the boo's after the Silva fight. Fuck being nice, tell the live crowd to shove their boo's up their arse, you took this fight on two days notice against an ATG and won.

 

He would have got more respect for that than moaning. JJ is a peace of shit but so is Floyd Mayweather. Both are probably the number 1 pound for pound fighters in their sports for the last 20 years. They will have always have a big US fanbase who don't care how big dickheads they are though. As long as USA = Number 1. Cormier does make things worse like Tofu says going " why are you booing me?" which just invites more hate as well.

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I've repeatedly said in here how I can't stand Cormier (and ROckwell) for their jock bully boy persona's. At least Rockwell carries it thru and doesn't try to make people like him, but DC's attempts to be loved seem too needy and I find myself rooting against him every time he steps into the ring.

 

I loved watching Jones manhandle him at his own game, and then to admit afterwards he hadn't even trained wrestling that much just made it all the better. 

 

Cormier knows he's not the champ in his division and is just waiting to fail again as soon as he comes up against JJ - and all the delays and issues JJ has are just stringing out the inevitable.

 

I suspect the cumulative wars will have caught up with Lawler, and Cowboy disposes of him quite handily, Cowboy has a lot of fights but not many of those gruelling wars like Lawler, from which a fighter inevitably loses a bit of themselves that never can get recovered.

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43 minutes ago, Gotters said:

I've repeatedly said in here how I can't stand Cormier (and ROckwell) for their jock bully boy persona's. At least Rockwell carries it thru and doesn't try to make people like him, but DC's attempts to be loved seem too needy and I find myself rooting against him every time he steps into the ring.

 

I loved watching Jones manhandle him at his own game, and then to admit afterwards he hadn't even trained wrestling that much just made it all the better. 

 

Cormier knows he's not the champ in his division and is just waiting to fail again as soon as he comes up against JJ - and all the delays and issues JJ has are just stringing out the inevitable.

 

I suspect the cumulative wars will have caught up with Lawler, and Cowboy disposes of him quite handily, Cowboy has a lot of fights but not many of those gruelling wars like Lawler, from which a fighter inevitably loses a bit of themselves that never can get recovered.

 

You know it's Rockhold right, or were you making a pun on his name?

 

I don't buy this "Robbie is finished due to wars" thing either, he just had an off night and got clipped by Woodley, I think I would back Robbie in a rematch of that one. This is a tough test for Cowboy., Robbie Lawler is no Patrick Cote or Rick Story.

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i was typing it a bit distracted whilst at work and sort of knew Rockwell didn't look right, but didn't give it enough thought to actually go back and check it.

 

Its definitely a test for Cerrone and he needs to win to lose the view that is held by quite a few that he is not quite belt holder class in the UFC

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Just finished watching Saturday's card. So good. Every fight delivered. 

 

I love Maia, he's a real throwback and provides a great antidote to the legions of trash-talking tattooed strikers. (Not that they're a bad thing, reading Garbrandt's comments about Caraway made me like him even more.)

 

Pettis/Oliveira was one of the best fights I've seen this year.As mentioned the other day, a healthy and focused Pettis in a lower division is a nasty prospect. FW looking mad at the moment.

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I can't say I'm a fan of Garbrandt myself, he has a point about Caraway ducking (an accusation he's faced for years but I always enjoy watching him fight, he's surprisingly handy) but I find him all a bit too much Team Alpha Male, bullying jock was mentioned just recently. He just seems to lack that bit of class, that spark. Sure he's tough but I think Cruz beats him 50-45 all day long.

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Long abandoned TUF but I usually knew when they started, I had no idea it had.  I don't even know it's premise, something like Cejudo and Benivedez coaching 2 teams, winner fights DJ?  As if a TUFfer stands a chance against him when no one else can touch him. Seems very silly.

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Yobo Ahoy

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I guess they are banking on the unknown element and/or overconfidence on DJ's part to make it interesting - a la GSP/Serra. I think they are all champs from regional MMA feds which makes it mildly more interesting.

 

But yeah, I've never really been into TUF and this one isn't going to change my mind.

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Seems like the kindest thing to do at this point would be stop filming it, I would much rather see real training and behind the scenes but it's all so focussed on house drama. Well, it was the last time I saw it, and it seemed to be the direction it was headed.

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