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Love behind-the-scenes access like that!

 

The local channel here just takes a feed of the UFC events and puts them out, meaning that when the US coverage switches to the studio or similar, the live feed keeps rolling showing wide angles of the arena or setting up for the US' next live shot. This can mean a little bit of footage of the post-match interactions, such as fighters asking Big John, Herb or Dan how the fight went, or Bruce Buffer offering some thoughts before going live with the announcement. It's pretty cool to see how the fighters and staff are with each other and how they act post-fight.

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8 hours ago, glb said:

Love behind-the-scenes access like that!

 

The local channel here just takes a feed of the UFC events and puts them out, meaning that when the US coverage switches to the studio or similar, the live feed keeps rolling showing wide angles of the arena or setting up for the US' next live shot. This can mean a little bit of footage of the post-match interactions, such as fighters asking Big John, Herb or Dan how the fight went, or Bruce Buffer offering some thoughts before going live with the announcement. It's pretty cool to see how the fighters and staff are with each other and how they act post-fight.

 

I'd rather see that than hear Goldie rattle on. 

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A little depressing, honestly. The UFC really can't afford to pay one of the best welterweights in the world an acceptable amount?. Good for Rory, go get paid man. It sucks that he won't be getting the UFC belt any time soon, but you've got to make that money while you can.

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I think that fighters in the UFC need to realise that being a decent fighter just isn't enough any more - sure McDonald was involved in a couple of great scraps - but very few people ever bought or were drawn to cards because he was on them.

 

If Bellator are pushing out the boat to pick up in their eyes a trophy signing like this his value to them will be greater than it is to the UFC. If he was shifting huge numbers of PPVs or had a huge fanbase the UFC would be offering more.

 

Think we'll see this increasingly with the UFC, they have to deliver hype and attention to their cards, this will impact the pay of fighters who are technically excellent but fail to spark with a crowd/audience in the widest sense. 

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It does seem like the UFC think he's hit his ceiling already.

 

As a guy who ragdolled Nate Diaz and beat the current WW champ handily, he probably does have more promotional value to Coker.

 

It's weird though - there have been a couple of Fight Nights in Canada with Rory on the card, but no actual ppv there with him on since 174. Which was headlined by DJ/Bagautinov and did predictably bad numbers.

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1 hour ago, Gotters said:

I think that fighters in the UFC need to realise that being a decent fighter just isn't enough any more - sure McDonald was involved in a couple of great scraps - but very few people ever bought or were drawn to cards because he was on them.

 

 

Deeply true. I saw Dillashaw the other day prattling on about what a disgrace it will be if he doesn't get the next title shot against Cruz. He's always been a bit of a meathead and this is further proof of how little he gets it. The clear grudge and money fight to make is Cruz Garbrandt (who both understand self promotion and have been setting up the hype lately). TJ only fought him last year, lost (closely but he is basically a slightly worse Cruz, with no new demonstrable reason it would go differently) and was never a very exciting champ to begin with. The UFC want money and PPV buys / fight pass sales, TJ does very little for either of those, he doesn't generate sales by complaining, and they clearly enjoy someone like Cruz as champ.

 

I like Rory but he made a few key mistakes in the last year or so, he used Helwani's show to reveal he was fighting out his contract to test the waters, spoke publically about fighter unions and so on (the UFC monitor these shows and articles a lot more than people realise), he's never been a big draw and I think he was an easy cut for Dana. When Conor says he's changed the game, he's not talking about winning fights, he's talking about making people care, and unfortunately for Rory, not enough people did. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Gotters said:

 

Think we'll see this increasingly with the UFC, they have to deliver hype and attention to their cards, this will impact the pay of fighters who are technically excellent but fail to spark with a crowd/audience in the widest sense. 

 

Definitely. This is why I was surprised to hear Cerrone won't be testing the waters, it's well documented he does it for the dough and I'm sure Bellator would go all out to get him if he gave them an indication. Can only assume he's on a lot more than Rory.

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1 hour ago, glb said:

Just watching various MMA vids and saw Rogan mention Cowboy is on his podcast next week. That should be a good 'un.

 

He's been on before, he is good.

 

Don't forget to watch the Jeremy Stephens one, that is hugely interesting despite what you'd think..Stephens is clued up.

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Tofu

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Can't wait for Condit Vs Maia

 

Maia has possibly the best BJJ in the UFC (only other contender is obviously Jacare).
 

Condit is also really not known for his TD defence (he has something like a 35% TD defence success rate). If he does his rushing in strikes he will lose. When Condit loses, it is traditionally to grapplers.

Other benefit for Maia - he doesn't need to complete TDs to get to where he needs to be - he will often shoot for a single and end up using it to pull guard (hence why his fightmetric TD % is surprisingly low as he isn't strictly completing the TD) and quickly sweep.

I think the big question is  to what extent Condit has fixed his flaws - rushing in striking, defensive footwork (lack of), failure to return to striking guard after throwing kicks etc (and he was showing very noticeable progress in the Lawler fight). 

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Tofu

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6 hours ago, angel said:

Well Condit is a step up from Matt Brown that's for sure, a big test for Maia. He is like a boa constrictor though once he has you, it could be a long night for Carlos.

 

Damn right, cannot wait.

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I don't even know who I want to win in this one. Condit should have been champ already so it seems almost karmic he gets another title shot. I like Maia too though, he seems to have that old school fighter mentality. I imagine him thinking ' fuck being well rounded I'll just train one skill' and to his credit it's worked. 

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Hope I'm wrong but think Maia v Condit has the potential to be an awful snoozefest of a fight.

 

I know there is more than 1 way to skin a cat and Maia is regarded as the best at what he does, just doesn't always make for the most entertaining of fights.

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It's incredible how he can go up against such a talented dude like Condit. Get him to the ground with precision and ease. Get into side control, then back mount like butter and once he's on your back its over. It happens so fast.

 

He makes high level guys look like they have never trained before; like the Gunnar Nelson fight - G Nelson is a high level dude and Maia tooled him like he was an amateurs.

 

Also always super humble in his post fight interviews

 

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Condit has been fighting at a top level but just read thats 5 in 7 he's now lost

 

Interesting to see somebody like Maia who is so clearly 'all in' in one discipline - most of the fighters aim at being generalists and are very good at a lot of things but his approach seems more focussed - hard to see anybody at welter stopping him once it gets down to the ground, but Woodley may have smashed him on the chin before that happens.

 

I think Maia would be a horrible matchup for a lot of people as he has the possibility to make them look terrible 

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I'm on a roll with my picks, although you could argue it was a short night for Condit not a long one. I think this is now going to go Thompson beats Woodley then Maia beats Thompson. Then we may get Maia vs Lawler.

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1 hour ago, angel said:

I'm on a roll with my picks, although you could argue it was a short night for Condit not a long one. I think this is now going to go Thompson beats Woodley then Maia beats Thompson. Then we may get Maia vs Lawler.

 

I'd go with this though I imagine Wonderboy vs Maia would be like watching Anderson vs Maia - 'get in my guard'. 

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GSP is back soon and if its too 170 he will leap frog Wonderboy and Maia into a title shot if he wants one. Like it or not. UFC are in Toronto this Dec and GSP is expected to be on that card. He could have a warm up and beat up a Diaz brother I suppose but I think he will fancy his chances against Woodley.

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