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13 hours ago, Corrogate said:

Eddie Alvarez fucking slumped RDA! Hear it connect!? He's been champion in Strikeforce, Bellator, and now UFC. That's an amazing achievement.

 

 

Eddie never fought in Strikeforce. He is probably the first Bellator non-bust though.

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20 hours ago, glb said:

Does Anderson cut that much?! Thought he would walk around at around mid 190s, so assumed he would be comfortably within the LHW limit!

 

Agree about the belt, given recent swaps it would have been great to see the strap on the line and the potential chaos.

 

You weren't far off, it turns out - 198.5. He weighed in at 205 against Griffin.

 

Interestingly, all 3 of Silva's previous LHW opponents (Irvin, Griffin, Bonnar) popped for PEDs after their fights. Then, when Andy fought someone lighter (Diaz), he did.

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People used to say he walked around at 220lbs but looking at him yesterday he wasn't in shape (eating pizza on the way to weigh ins ha) and still didn't tip the 205 mark. 

 

He started out as a welterweight too I think. 

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Can't wait for Brock to take this jobber to suplex city tonight!

 

No man flukes being IWGP & WWE Heavyweight Champion.

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7 minutes ago, ckny said:

Either way there's no way it goes longer than 2 minutes.

 

2 minutes will be enough to cover the replays and post-fight. Genuienly think the first exchange could be it.

 

Finally got around to JJ's fight after dodging the 'net all day. Shame Gadelha gassed, thought one judge giving her 45 was tight, but JJ looked incredible in the Championship rounds, was lighting the challenger up at will.

 

8 hours ago, schmojo said:

 

You weren't far off, it turns out - 198.5. He weighed in at 205 against Griffin.

 

Interestingly, all 3 of Silva's previous LHW opponents (Irvin, Griffin, Bonnar) popped for PEDs after their fights. Then, when Andy fought someone lighter (Diaz), he did.

 

Half a stone is pretty significant, especially as DC is more likely to grapple. Who knows though, would be typical of this year for Silva to do something crazy and pull off an upset.

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17 minutes ago, angel said:

Lesnars muscle is WWE muscle, beach muscle. I think he loses hard.

 

He broke HHH's arm, TWICE.

 

Once he locks in that Kimura it's all over.

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20 minutes ago, Gotters said:

just rewatched Lesnar v Carwin as think that is pretty close to showing the way it may go - Brock took some good shots in that fight, and Carwin was a banger.

 

 

Maybe Brock has an iron chin then. Carwin is still my bet for heaviest hands ever in MMA. 

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he tucks his chin down and hunches up his shoulders, but took a couple of big uppercuts 

 

watching it again (I'd only seen it before on the day it happened) I was surprised by how well Brock whethered the onslaught and didn't get as battered as I recall, Carwin punched himself out largely on Brock's arms, sure he got some good shots off but not stopping it was a bang on call by the ref

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7 minutes ago, schmojo said:

 

That's some excellent nonsense. Lesnar is functional athletic muscle. Mountains of it.

 

 

Lesnar was a guy who always inspired a reaction and felt bigger than life; he always drew a crowd and people had TONS to say about him, good and bad.

 

Lesnar was the guy that resembled the high school bully, the one who wedgied a lot of people, and people profoundly disliked him for it. You never want to root for the jerk to get the girl in a romantic comedy. He was the guy that the girl rejects for the star in a romantic comedy.

 

Lesnar was that guy and seeing him, without paying any dues, just come into the UFC and get a title shot three fights in rubbed people the wrong way. He just showed up and looked the part of a Top 10 heavyweight without having to earn it; his athleticism and size were enough and people want to see it come hard for people. Jon Jones has the same problem in a lot of ways; it just comes so easy that a lot of people don’t like him for it.

 

Lesnar showed up, not having competitively wrestled in almost a decade, after spending a significant amount of his time doing things that weren’t some form of combat sport, and used sheer athleticism to compete at the highest level. He was a freak athlete; you don’t make it to the final cut of an NFL team without ever playing college football (and years removed from competitive sports) with a significant injury (torn groin per his autobiography) without possessing exceptional athletic tools.

 

Lesnar also has been accused of having an easy path to becoming UFC champion ... if you can call Frank Mir and Heath Herring before Couture for the title an easy path. The thing is that he showed up in the UFC at 1-0, announced as a former WWF and NCAA champion, and people didn’t respond well. It was looked at like a freak show … and Lesnar proved he belonged.

 

You can’t just become a guy like Lesnar, which also bothered a lot of people on a number of levels. One of the complaints I heard from martial arts nerds at the bar during PPVs was that Lesnar wouldn’t be that good if he wasn’t that big, etc, and always praised guys like Machida, GSP, for their technique and TMA backgrounds. A lot of guys who study and practice TMA were very vocal in their dislike because he didn’t have a black belt in a discipline, just an NCAA title, and was kind of dismissive about it all.

 

You can study martial arts all your life and become a high ranking black belt … but you’ll never be Brock Lesnar unless you’re born that way. Lesnar was a guy who was gifted with such raw power and athleticism that a lot of the dislike was jealousy. He got the once in a lifetime combination of tools and people didn’t think he deserved it; he just showed up in the UFC and was good, never spending the years toiling on the regional scene and fighting guys in bars/VFWs for $500 a fight, $500 more.

He never had that basic level of athletic respect we give guys who make it to the UFC; there never was years of blood, sweat and toil trying to make it. He just showed up, massively famous during a peak era of faked fighting, and was a great fighter in real fighting. 

 

I always look at him as MMA's first real superstar in North America; Lesnar coming into MMA threw gasoline onto the fire that was the first big explosion of the sport.

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I hope Lesner wins tbh. If he gets brutally ko'd in 30 seconds I think thats the last we will see of him in MMA. With his age and the money he makes I think he will just go back to the WWE for good. If he wins you can tell he will be wanting to get back in there again. In all the interviews and build up videos I've seen this week he seems really happy and excited to be back. Huge fan of Mark Hunt but he can survive a loss and keep on trucking.

 

Brock was a great talent inside the octagon and a funny charecter outside of it, would be a shame to watch him lower himself and go back to wrestling John Cena at Summerfest.

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Got to disagree with Tofu's assertion. Lesnar's been putting in the graft since he was a child. He might not have colourful belts, but he has serious credibility. Not just winning a genetic lottery. 

 

There are a ton more black belts than Div 1 champs.

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40 minutes ago, Orion said:

Brock was a great talent inside the octagon and a funny charecter outside of it, would be a shame to watch him lower himself and go back to wrestling John Cena at Summerfest.

 

Oh my, we are precious aren't we!

 

:lol:

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The FightPass section of this card is so mental might have to sign back up again for a month.

 

Sanchez vs Lauzon

Mousasi vs Santos

Gomi vs Miller

 

FightPass are doing the free 7 day trials again for anyone who hasent used one before. Be a good time to sign up and cancel because btsport are not showing those fights.

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32 minutes ago, sexton_hardcastle said:

The mighty Lesnar went SIXTY MINUTES with the Olympic Champion Kurt Angle. He's winning this all day long. Maybe through nefarious means too!

 

Herb Dean needs to watch for Brock's low blow; Undertaker's still reeling from the one he took at Hell in a Cell.

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1 hour ago, Orion said:

Brock was a great talent inside the octagon and a funny charecter outside of it, would be a shame to watch him lower himself and go back to wrestling John Cena at Summerfest.

 

I'm hoping for a Brock win tonight and then a rematch with Cena in the octagon. 

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