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The Bisping knockout was a thing of beauty. Watching Rockhold saunter in like he was some untouchable God of Fighting who could barely deign to share a cage with a mouthy Manc no-hoper was just asking for a humbling comeuppance. Like most though, I didn't give Bisping a chance but watching him knock the living fuck out of that preening, cocky twat was a true fairytale moment that I'll never forget. Watched it live with my two younger brothers at 6am & we went absolutely fucking bananas. 

 

You just never, ever know in this sport but I'm still staggered that any professional fighter would underestimate their opponent like that. Conor did the same against Diaz & it's just asking for trouble every time. Confidence in your own abilities is a huge part of the game but strolling around holding your chin up high is only going to end up one way against an experienced, wily competitor like Bisping.

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Bit unsure about putting Lesnar against Hunt; I mean, a guy who notoriously hates getting hit (to the point it's a rule in training) against a bloke with walk off KOs on his highlight reel. 

 

11 hours ago, Hellcock said:

Couldn't believe it. He rocked him proper.

 

Makes me wonder if Bisping over trains. He's got amazing cardio (diaz level) but maybe it was at the cost of his power? the short camp probably meant he couldn't go all out so he kept the added muscle mass. 

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3 hours ago, Corrogate said:

Alex Caceres Scott, well good fight. Absolutely owned the dude he was fighting on every level.

 

Yeah, this was great as well. Tom Breese though, another fairly flat performance from him. He just seems so reserved when he fights.

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so danas bodyguard choked ariel against a wall at ufc 172, that emerged today, and is what he was referring to in the must-watch MMA hour.

 

lovely old uncle dana, straight up cunt

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Listening now. I can't take Ariel's stance. I thought the McGregor Diaz promo was wicked when I saw it, the UFC 200 promo was dope., I found out after. UFC does a lot of MMA journalism. Remember the media scrums? They were quality, just Dana firing off for like 40 minutes sometimes.

 

There's a few outlets I know straight to go to for UFC stuff, more than I need.

 

Maybe Ariel didn't do anything wrong, reporting the news in his mind, but I dunno, I feel like he kind of besmirches the UFC doing this kind of shit. And some of the shit he says is weird, like "Imagine if I actually started writing negative things? What would happen then?" like he's protecting the company by not saying something, which if true, means he's a disingenuous reporter for not doing so.

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Yobo Ahoy

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Poor Kimbo. A real shame. 42 is no age.

 

As for the Helwani stuff, I have mixed feelings. There was a similar topic in Discussion  a year or so ago, like the publishers want to break Game X at E3 but people are insistent on leaking low quality blurry images beforehand. You want to know, but would you enjoy it more from the intended, official source? I guess the answer is don't follow journalists on Twitter, but it is a bit of a grey area - if you only read the aforementioned official sources, you're  only getting half of the story.

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Hes a journalist though, and as he said himself, dana told him years ago - dont sit on a story. If he reached out to the UFC, they either give the story to another outlet to spite him, or they deny iy. Speaking to them does nothing.

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There's no grey area at all. Journalism involves telling stories that aren't ratified, for better or worse.

 

If you think that freedom of the media to report truth is less important that a promo video having a 'wow' factor, your priorities are fucked. The UFC should feel glad that enough people want to talk enthusiastically about their crooked little walled garden.

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51 minutes ago, Yobo Ahoy said:

Poor Kimbo. A real shame. 42 is no age.

 

As for the Helwani stuff, I have mixed feelings. There was a similar topic in Discussion  a year or so ago, like the publishers want to break Game X at E3 but people are insistent on leaking low quality blurry images beforehand. You want to know, but would you enjoy it more from the intended, official source? I guess the answer is don't follow journalists on Twitter, but it is a bit of a grey area - if you only read the aforementioned official sources, you're  only getting half of the story.

 

Hes a journalist though, and as he said himself, dana told him years ago - dont sit on a story. If he reached out to the UFC, they either give the story to another outlet to spite him, or they deny it. Speaking to them does nothing.

 

Ariels a young, ish, proper journo who was utterly screwed at every turn by the UFC, fox, everyone. Its all on the mma hour how they mistreated him, sent him to the arse end of nowhere but refused to let him do a piece to camera, denied him interviews, wasted his time, its a disgrace how hes been treated. The fertittas are gangsters, dana is a thug, the whole UFC is low rent. Unfortunately its the only game in town.   I'm very much soured towards it lately, I dont think they can go forward with much credibility from now on, its like an abused spouse returning home, she's still going to be extremely wary. Ariel wont even go in a room alone with dana any more, so how does that translate to asking him a question in a scrum. This is big, really big, one of the UFCs greatest mistakes ever.

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Orion

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Kimbo was known as one of the real nice guys in MMA.

 

I remember when he showed up on TUF, you had all the fighters including idiots like Schaub and Mitrione saying what is this guy doing here, he is a fake fighter etc. Then 3 episodes in everyone is saying what a cool and nice bloke he is.

 

RIP big man.

 

Amazed the UFC backed down so quick on the Helwani stuff but happy they did.

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Ive not heard a bad word about him, everyone says he was a joy to work with, really humble.

 

Really need to hear from dana re: the backdown, he was adamant yesterday (he went on TMZ saying never again in his lifetime), 10 hours later, rescinded. Dana CAN be a good guy, he just makes very emotional decisions, and we really need to hear from Lorenzo.

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Dana strikes me as being someone trying far too hard to be front and centre, when really it's the fighters and brand that should take priority. Like that reality show he's in, besides the fact Joe Rogan could have made that a lot more appealing and goofy, it just feels a bit shoe-horned in. It's not really promoting the brand, more trying to say, 'Hey Dana's cool too!'

 

Then the press conferences. Dana can clearly talk in front of a crowd but it's not with much panache, more a functional delivery. But because he's the president of the company and there's a media urge these days to have every public figure be 'interesting' he's probably seen more often than required. Might be a decent guy away from the spotlight but some people are just better suited to being in the background, and Dana is probably one of them.

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I disagree, danas half the show, when its dave scholler up there instead everyone goes ohh :(.  When hes on he's charismatic as fuck, its just he does stupid things sometimes.

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Corrogate

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2 hours ago, glb said:

Then the press conferences. Dana can clearly talk in front of a crowd but it's not with much panache, more a functional delivery.

 

Surely that's way better? He's awesome to listen he, for the most part, seems completely honest when he's talking about stuff, he doesn't fuck about in front of the mic. I'd rather have that than someone trying to coax me through the doors of a circus.

 

I don't really care about the journalistic integrity point of view, it wasn't about being a dedicated and truth digging service for the fans, it was bout Helwani getting his own ends. He even said it in that fucking boring 2 hour diatribe with all those pathetic pauses for effect.

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3 hours ago, Corrogate said:

 

Surely that's way better? He's awesome to listen he, for the most part, seems completely honest when he's talking about stuff, he doesn't fuck about in front of the mic. I'd rather have that than someone trying to coax me through the doors of a circus.

 

I didn't explain it very well, agree don't want a guy overshadowing the fighters. Feel Dana should stick to being a spokesperson for UFC, and not do shit like the reality show, which he isn't quite cut out for. Less is more, I guess.

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