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Doomguy

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That's ridiculous.

Hector Lombard gets one year for using steroids - which he's clearly used his entire career - and Diaz gets five for weed?

I don't see how weed is going to 'enhance' your performance unless you just want to become a punching bag; in which case why not make beer illegal too as that slows down reaction times.

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Orion

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Its daft compared to the guys doing steroids but the the harsher punishments just came in on those guys too. They are gonna be facing the the huge bans now as well.

Lets look at Nick Diaz if you were on a commision trying to ban PEDS.

He has failed two drug tests and ran away from another one. He has said he has a medical weed license so you postpone a trial so he can show it.

In the end he does not show it because he does not have one. Either because he is a fuckwit or is lying or both.

This guy also causes brawls and fights numerous times at your sporting events on camera and backstage at events you are in charge off over the years whilst this is going on.

Fuck him. I love him and his brother as fighters but this has been coming.

If weed is a PED in competition then don't use it the week before or after a fight. Theirs always been stories like Nick Diaz beating Gomi in an amazing fight then smoking bongs in his dressing room post fight to celebrate 5 mins before his drug test.

He was never gonna learn so hopefully this dec might help some other fighters learn before this happens to them tbh.

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Doomguy

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True he needed punishing, but it's not a ped. Maybe if you wanted to not feel pain but then beer and spirits would be too and I don't see anyone getting shit hammered before a fight.

I'm not even a fan of weed. I can't imagine trying to fight stoned but maybe for some it helps perhaps?

All I've seen weed do is give people the giggles or turn them into a paranoid wreck.

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schmojo

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The ban is indeed crazy, and something of an abuse of power, but I agree with Orion - it's probably a cumulative message being sent by NSAC in response to Diaz being a prick for years.

I think that the rules should be re-thought, due to increasing marijuana legalisation. I also think that it might help some of the more persistently angry fighters relax a bit more when they're not in camp *cough* Rumble *cough*.

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schmojo

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Not sure about those assertions - whilst McGeary wasn't in serious danger, and is always active off his back, he certainly didn't look fantastic against an old Tito. Very nice sub though, I can't imagine Davis having too much trouble with him. The LHW division in the UFC is in disarray, but it's just so far ahead of anyone else's. Giving Davis an actual belt for winning a fight and a half is crazy too.

The whole event was really strange - the mat was clearly slippy, the 2 round matches without proper scorecards were strange (will they even count on pro records?), and the tournament format was a bust. If you're going to run a one night tournament, you probably need to less professional medical staff to let things slide.

Fedor's not with Bellator at this point, but with a new, unnamed Japanese promotion which will air on Spike on NYE. I can only hope that it's a tune-up fight because Fedor loves Japan, and that he's still open to UFC negotiations after warming up. That seems like the best situation for all parties at this point.

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Yobo Ahoy

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I really enjoyed it. UFC are disappearing up their own arses at the moment and fair play to Bellator, they seem purely interested in putting on good fights. Shame about King Mo, Carmont is a real chump and the fight with Davis was only gonna go one way.

I do think McGeary can be great though (even though he's already in his 30s!) - him vs Davis will be close I reckon.

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Doomguy

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Fedor's not with Bellator at this point, but with a new, unnamed Japanese promotion which will air on Spike on NYE. I can only hope that it's a tune-up fight because Fedor loves Japan, and that he's still open to UFC negotiations after warming up. That seems like the best situation for all parties at this point.

Ahhh. I'll be honest the whole thing confused me but I read up.

- It's a new org run by the old Pride President

- Event will be shown on Spike.

- a ton of Bellator crossover

Sounds good to me. As Coker said, MMA is about the fighters. Somewhere down the line the Dana and Co appear to have forgotten that and it shows.

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schmojo

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Mousasi is close to becoming one of the great missed opportunities of his generation. He has such a wealth of talent and knowledge, but seems to lack the drive to compete with the best.

He was clearly the better fighter last night, but Hall took the risk, and it paid off.

Glad to see Barnett win, though 50-45 against Nelson seemed more than a touch unfair. Still, Barnett went through the division's most durable, and can now hopefully have a great run. I'd like to see him against someone younger next, though there aren't really any youngsters in the top 10 apart from Browne. I'd happily see him take on Browne again, or maybe Bigfoot. Everyone else is a bit tied up. I also think he could probably give Mark Hunt the ground-based beating that he's been avoiding for a while.

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Doomguy

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Uriah Hall.

When he shows up, his technique is infallible (when he comes to fight). Razor sharp.

Amazing. Spinning kick then flying knee. That's like two amazing KO's in one.

Mousasi is close to becoming one of the great missed opportunities of his generation. He has such a wealth of talent and knowledge, but seems to lack the drive to compete with the best.

Maybe he should have stayed at light heavy.

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schmojo

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When you look at the size of the elite MWs (Weidman, Jacare, Rockhold), I don't see how Mousasi would do better at LHW. He's never been musclebound, or even notably strong. I suppose he'd be quicker than some other LHWs, but that wouldn't help his focus deficit.

It comes across as an attitude issue - the talent is certainly there. Maybe he'll have a late career surge though, like Hunt, Arlovski, Johnson, Werdum etc. I hope so, as I like him a lot.

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Doomguy

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You're right. Size wise light heavy is getting a bit much.

Gegard never seems arsed to me if I'm honest. I love watching him fight (ever since he destroyed king mo from guard and somehow lost) but he just seems to be going through the motions in the UFC - like he has no goals.

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Yobo Ahoy

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Glad to see Barnett win, though 50-45 against Nelson seemed more than a touch unfair. Still, Barnett went through the division's most durable, and can now hopefully have a great run. I'd like to see him against someone younger next, though there aren't really any youngsters in the top 10 apart from Browne. I'd happily see him take on Browne again, or maybe Bigfoot. Everyone else is a bit tied up. I also think he could probably give Mark Hunt the ground-based beating that he's been avoiding for a while.

I thought Nelson was second-best throughout to be honest. You know what you are gonna get with him but Barnett is still a level above.

Also Hunt has KO'd him recently. Last year wasn't it?

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Nelson was mostly behind, and Barnett is a cut above, but its hard to argue that he didn't take the first round.

It was only last year that he got KOd, but that's to Hunt, and there's no sign yet that it shattered his chin when not being hit by freight trains.

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schmojo

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It's a roll of the dice with Hunt. As impressed as I was with Hunt's top control of Werdum, he still can't realistically hang with any grappling-inclined HW. Especially not in the long haul. This weekend, Nelson showed a desire to grapple for the first time in a long time. I think he'd cause Hunt many more problems if he brought that to the table.

In this case though, I was wondering Hunt might be a good shout for Barnett, who would possibly sub Hunt. Again. I suppose you give him the winner of next month's Hunt/Bigfoot rematch?

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Corrogate

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Guys, I'm making a collection of five heavyweight bouts that went the distance or got to round before TKO/KO/Submission.

Essentially I want wars, so far I have

Nelson and Barnett,

Hunt vs Silva,

JDS vs Velasquez 1 and 2.

Anyone got any more? I can't think of another that went 5 rounds and was quite as brutal at those.

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Doomguy

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I have mixed feelings about weight cutting. I know the Japanese martial arts scene see it as cowardly as you're basically ducking people who are your natural match. At the same time though fighters need to meet somewhere in the middle weight wise. It's the american weight cutting philosophy that's the major problem from what I can see as you have guys cutting 2 and a half stone of their natural weight to gain an advantage.

Fedor vs big nog 2 and 3

These are good calls but brutal to watch. If you ever wondered why Nog was so shit in the UFC the beatings he took in these will explain everything.

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