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Tofu

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Hot damn! Alvarez is out now, replaced by Cerrone!

The balls of this guy.

Bendo is a beast, he's beaten Cowboy soundly two times.

2 weeks notice, the balls of this guy. Man I wish I was like Cerrone, I love his attitude to life.

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Doomguy

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Agree, it went down how I thought it would (and posted). Jones is just the best, no one will get close, not Rumble, Gus, nobody. I think he'd even beat Cain.

I don't know about beating cain as his cardio is ridiculously good; you have to go quite far down the weight divisions to find someone better in that area.

Dos Santos could take every punch jones has to offer just to deal out one KO so there's the difference there.

Werdum would also be a good test.

He'll be the second GOAT behind Silva imo. Jones can beat anyone but lets face it, those Silva KO's have already cemented his place at the top.

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As if Jon Jones needed any cocaine?

He must have been unlucky with the timing of the test. From what I understand, it doesn't stay in your system too long.

My cynical self thinks that the treatment is purely to save his sponsorships. Still, he obviously had this weighing on him going into the DC fight, but hopefully he has a handle on things. The Internet reaction should be entertaining.

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Doomguy

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There's also this which happened on the 1st: http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f2/ufc-will-no-longer-do-out-competition-drug-testing-2906135/

Scroll to the latter end of comments, many believe its because of Jones being found out. UFC is a bit messed up these days.

The UFC genuinely does seem to have become everything dana said it wouldn't in the last few years.

It's already lost the mixed martial arts aspect. It might as well be called wrestle box championship now.

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GODZOOKI

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This is by far the worst aspect of it, ludicrous double standards. Was it that Riddle kid who got fired for weed last year?

Yep he's not letting them forget it either via twitter.

I'm mixed on it, on one hand I think it's commendable the ufc is not throwing an athlete under the bus because he has a drug problem. If the commission don't think there's been a violation warranting a suspension then why should they? But then I think about the many people that have had bonuses, contracts etc cancelled for testing positive for weed metabolites and it all feels, as you say, fucking ludicrous.

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Tofu

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Yep he's not letting them forget it either via twitter.

I'm mixed on it, on one hand I think it's commendable the ufc is not throwing an athlete under the bus because he has a drug problem. If the commission don't think there's been a violation warranting a suspension then why should they? But then I think about the many people that have had bonuses, contracts etc cancelled for testing positive for weed metabolites and it all feels, as you say, fucking ludicrous.

UFC is not throwing him under the bus because its JJ. Riddle is a piece of shit, I don't like the guy at all but he's right.

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Yobo Ahoy

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I'm mixed on it, on one hand I think it's commendable the ufc is not throwing an athlete under the bus because he has a drug problem. If the commission don't think there's been a violation warranting a suspension then why should they? But then I think about the many people that have had bonuses, contracts etc cancelled for testing positive for weed metabolites and it all feels, as you say, fucking ludicrous.

Call me cynical but I don't feel bad for him. There is a world of difference between someone who has an actual drug dependency/addiction and someone who checks into rehab because they've been found out.

Of course I don't know for sure, but i would bet my house on it being the latter.

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Gotters

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So how much of all your views here about this situation is because you all seem think jones is a cunt ?

The state athletic rules are clearly screwed but you seriously all expect the UFC to fire a bloke who has just sold the first million sale PPV in years and is on track arguably to be the GOAT ?

If i was the UFC I'd do exactly the same, how many of you would cost yourself large amounts of cash to satisfy your moral outrage that it appears a bloke may have been caught once for a rec drug failure ?

I dont see how else they can play it being sensible about it

This explains a lot actually, weed and coke are not considered performance enhancing out of competetion (which Jones test was) - the other fighters mentioned with failed weed tests were all in competition tests, when its considered performance enhancing.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/1/7/7508009/nevada-athletic-commission-calls-jon-jones-drug-test-failure-an

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GODZOOKI

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Done a fair bit of reading /listening today to people clearly far more informed than me - SBN's Luke Thomas had a fair bit to say on his live chat earlier this evening, it was all very interesting. Bottom line is coke scientifically has been ruled out as a PED 'out of competition'. If it's within the hours leading up to the fight then it's on the banned list, so unless he tests positive from his post fight test there's nothing the commission or the UFC will do. It also turns out he shouldn't have been tested for coke as it technically isint on the list that should have been tested for that far out from the fight (dec 4th), the commission have attributed the testing for it as an 'administrative error'. Fucking mental I know.

I also now fall into the growing camp that think it's unlikely he's got a real problem and is only going through the programme due to him being found out, nothing more than a PR move.

I had a strong dislike for him as a person prior to this due to the pretence he's the greatest human being to walk the earth. He might be the greatest mixed martial artist to walk the earth but that's another title, right now he's just an uBer CUNT.

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Dark Soldier

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If Cormier had won the fight and been found with the same, then yeah, I'd have been calling for the same thing. The fact UFC have decided not to do out of competition testing right around the time Jones has been found with coke in his system is all a bit fucking iffy.

But then yeah, they're defending their biggest star etc. If it had been a low carder, I doubt Dana would be praising him for being so strong, so brave, so noble. Jones will be the GOAT, probably already is. He's just a complete cunt, but its alright he's good for business.

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If the UFC wanted credibility, there wouldn't be those discrepencies in treatment but, as many have already said, the UFC is more concerned with being profitable sports entertainment than being legitimate and respectable.

Looks like Jones had some abnormal test/epitest levels in that drug test too: http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/1/7/7510649/jon-jones-out-of-competition-drug-tests-all-show-abnormal-hormone

In other news: Anderson gets a title shot with a win over Diaz. Big mistake for me. If Weidman beats him again, he may well retire or take 'fun' fights, and we'll never see him take on Rockhold (he'd said that he might not fight brazilians again, so that would rule out Jacare, Machida and Belfort).

I'd rather see Anderson fight his own way back into relevance and prove that he has to be given another title shot. 2 top 10 wins, and then Weidman. But then, Daddy Dana is only thinking of the box office. Short term moves to generate cash at the expense of long term gain.

If Anderson lost to one of those contenders? He'd still sell tickets as a feature fight.

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If the UFC wanted credibility, there wouldn't be those discrepencies in treatment but, as many have already said, the UFC is more concerned with being profitable sports entertainment than being legitimate and respectable.

Looks like Jones had some abnormal test/epitest levels in that drug test too: http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/1/7/7510649/jon-jones-out-of-competition-drug-tests-all-show-abnormal-hormone

In other news: Anderson gets a title shot with a win over Diaz. Big mistake for me. If Weidman beats him again, he may well retire or take 'fun' fights, and we'll never see him take on Rockhold (he'd said that he might not fight brazilians again, so that would rule out Jacare, Machida and Belfort).

I'd rather see Anderson fight his own way back into relevance and prove that he has to be given another title shot. 2 top 10 wins, and then Weidman. But then, Daddy Dana is only thinking of the box office. Short term moves to generate cash at the expense of long term gain.

If Anderson lost to one of those contenders? He'd still sell tickets as a feature fight.

If* Anderson wins then I'd like to see him fight Machida then retire. He has nothing to prove at all and I don't want to see him go the way of Liddell - with his chin gone getting beat by guys he'd curb stomp in his prime.

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Gotters

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listening to today's Rogan with Brian Stann it would seem there is a lot of suspicion about some of Jones' levels in those tests that are indicative, but not conclusive proof of steroids - not read up on it but apparently the tests may have been borked by the State Athletic commission and likely he won't be charged

if it is PEDs then I think its clear he's due some punishment in line with the rules, but looks like he may get away with it.

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Tofu

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Of course he's going to get away with it. I agree most people are out for his blood because Jones is a talented arrogant cock. The guy is a stud, but he's so obnoxious at times that people and fighters despise him because of his hypocrisy and also because he's that damn good.

He's going to apologise, get a slap on the wrist most likely and people will forget about it when his next fight later this year. UFC will never let him go, or strip his belt unless there's concrete proof of PED. You can already see the UFC protect him with Dana doing the most transparent damage control and spinning this as a great thing to happen.

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schmojo

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That's the big money fight they're counting on. The only reason to give Anderson a premature title shot is $$$, and Weidman/Anderson 3 is more of a PPV draw than Anderson/Belfort 2. Not that the latter wouldn't be a great Brazil stadium show.

Also, Anderson has already said that he won't fight Brazilians for the title about a week ago.

So, you know, not that funny.

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