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Fun Friday ahead:

Jacare/Mousasi - don't know who to favour this time: Mousasi can't be stopped, but Jacare's vicious now. Jacare was very competitive last time up until the upkick.

Overeem/Rothwell - I've decided that I don't want to see an Overeem who isn't wrecking fools. So if he loses here, let's seem him head off to WSOF or Japan and crush some cans. It'll be interesting to see him at his lighter weight, but he really should murder Rothwell.

Curran/Pitbull 2

King Mo vs some guy

Bobby Lashley vs some guy

Lavar Johnson vs Cheick Kongo - I wouldn't have cared for this in the UFC, but suddenly I find it interesting in Bellator. Odd.

OMG, didnt realise he was still fighting. Decent looking card though, nice that its on friday to.

As for Dana, I think he can be amusing at times and the way he engages fans can be a good thing but he can also get involved in spats and as mentioned, likes to bear grudges. He's done a good job as promoter on the whole i reckon, though now as the UFC is expanding rapidly and features heavily on normal telly maybe he's not whats need in a figure head right now. Joe Silva would be well suited to being the "Face of the Company", I reckon in this era and the future.

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If Overeem can't beat Rothwell in the first round he needs to call it a day. Rothwell has to be the most one dimensional fighter on the planet. He tries anything other than straight up scrapping and he looks shocking.

Think Mousasi beats the alligator and that'll setup a nice title fight with weidman. Maybe Jacare can give vitor his walking papers after weidman turns him into dust.

Think Lavar Johnson Kongo goes to a decision or Lavar gasses out.

Bobby Lashley? he's like 5'9 and weighs 3000000 pounds of muscle. I'm surprised he's even alive. All the fights I've seen him in have been shocking.

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great fight night card - I'd far rather a nice tight 4 card main event than some of these recent sprawling things full of people I've never heard of.

shame the first fight with lauzon got stopped on a cut as was shaping up really well, the beard bloke looked really powerful and it was swinging back and forth between who was on top and looking likely to win - needs a rematch

I've loved Mittrone since TUF, he's a bit weird but probably a bit underrated as a fighter, not sure he's belt class but deffo top 10 in the heavies.

first time i've seen Jacare, not sure about his stand up but looked a monster on the ground and at takedowns.

I've only seen Overeem in the UFC but always thought of him as a bit of a chinny bully - that fight did nothing to change my view of him

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Just seen the Bonnar Ttito cage 'brawl' at Belator...

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Tito is so bad on the mic it made me cringe - and I have a stomach full of staples atm so that's saying something.

Called all the ufc fights wrong but it looks like the outcomes are all positive.

I agree Gotters about Overeem. Seen him get smashed by too many light heavies to consider him having a heavyweight level chin. No clue where he goes from here. Bellator or retirement. To me he's in the same overrated and over the hill bracket as Crocop.

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Yobo Ahoy

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Just seen the Bonnar Ttito cage 'brawl' at Belator...

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Tito is so bad on the mic it made me cringe - and I have a stomach full of staples atm so that's saying something.

Fucking hell, just watching this now. Like WCW levels of nonsense. The fucking masked guy ... Jesus.

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I thought Bonnar was surprisingly good at doing all the mic stuff but then tito... jesus fucking christ... can we just remove him from existence at this point.

It reminded me of when he did that press conference for cyborg santos... OUCH.

It's the definition of cringe.

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Pathetic.

The old school stuff in the UFC where they've had stuff popping in the cages (think they brought Chuck Liddell or whatever in once) was so shit, glad it didn't become a thing. Or maybe it is? During press conferences, but at least then you can choose whether you're into that side.

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Overeem is saying he'll continue with the ufc.

I know he's gone to Greg Jackson but I'm not really a fan of his. With Jon Jones being the exception, he seems to turn amazing fighters into pointing scoring decisioners. Who wants to see Overeem like that?

Can't he just go full beastmode again? surely he could back to ubereem size naturally somehow?

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Overeem is saying he'll continue with the ufc.

I know he's gone to Greg Jackson but I'm not really a fan of his. With Jon Jones being the exception, he seems to turn amazing fighters into pointing scoring decisioners. Who wants to see Overeem like that?

Can't he just go full beastmode again? surely he could back to ubereem size naturally somehow?

It's weird because people want to see him even if he loses at the mo but I'm guessing he's on a shitload of money and if he spends many more fights throwing crappy Jones-style kicks at the knee he's going to get boring and irrelevant very quickly. I don't think the UFC will cut him though, he's still too big a name to give away to Bellator/WSOF etc.

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He'll be on a big contract. Dana would probably happily release him if he got a loss to an even more lowly gatekeeper. He seems to get treated like some kind of God-King in Japan too, so he might head back over for some of that treatment, if he can find a home.

I think that the problem is a lengthy career and accumulated damage. Too many knockouts mean that he loses to guys who aren't really as good as him. He's like the anti-Hendo: even when he performs well, he'll probably get switched off. I'd say that he's better than the last 3 guys who KO'd him, but what difference does it make?

Also, Jacare looked phenomenal. He's come on so much, and Mousasi seems to have stagnated. Jacare's passion, aggression, and recent upswing mean that he has the makings of a real star. If Dana's not sold on him yet though, they might make him rematch Rockhold before a title shot.

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to get a title shot I believe you need to achieve a couple of things, either take out every other viable contendor in the octogon or become such a box office draw you'll shift hundreds of thousands of ppv's just by the power of your trash talk (whilst still being a viable fighter - see Chael Sonnen).

don't think Jacare meets either criteria yet (and will never do well on the star power personality front) so he needs at least one or two more top level names on his record to get the shot.

Dana White knows you need to build fights and create the tension and clamour for them

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The crowd were eating out of Jacare's hands on Friday, and he's lost one in his last 11, with 8 finishes. He's also a former world champion, with wins coming over another former world champion, and a UFC #1 contender. He should be a lock for a title shot - especially in a division where Maia, Leites, Cote and, at the time, an underexposed Chris Weidman got title shots.

As far as star power goes - you wait and hear the reception he'll get next time he's in Brazil. It'll be nuts.

Dana's record of 'building' fights is probably 50/50 at best. There's been a glut of garbage over the past year.

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Yobo Ahoy

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I think if Jacare beats Rockhold it'll be impossible to overlook him. That would mean no major losses unavenged (if we're talking boxing), 4 top 10 guys in a row and an 8 fight win streak. To be fair to the UFC they are much more willing these days to give title shots to somewhat unknown quantities - see Gus, Weidman, Dillashaw ... etc. You can't really say that any of those guys were the standout fighter in their division at the time of their title fights.

EDIT: Schmojo beat me to it on most counts!

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I wonder why Rockhold v Bisping? I suppose they've been chattering, but everyone does with Bisping.

It's a weird fight - hard to see Bisping winning, but Rockhold won't really get much of a boost from a win. He'd have been better with Machida, I think.

Looks like Jacare's top in the UFC rankings, so they may wait it out for a title shot. They'd be smarter to book another fight to show Jacare as a monster though - I wouldn't worry about them derailing him.

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I want Bisping to win this one. I think neither pose a threat to Weidman but it would be nice to see Bisping at least make it into a title fight. Has to be gutting somewhat for him to to get so close before then get crushed by a TRT'd up Hendo/Vitor.

Speaking of which, I watched the Vitor KO of Dan Henderson again. Honestly think nobody at 185 could have beat that vitor not even a prime anderson. He was scary as hell.

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Yeah, thats gotta be pretty grating for Bisping knowing that the 3 major losses were all by cheats, well i guess Hendo was legal in his TRT use so that's a bit of a grey area, but then would a a slower more aged Hendo have had the explosiveness/quickness to leap in with that punch that looked like it killed Bisping? IWe'll never know i guess.

Anyway theres some nice looking ladies in the new TUF, especially the Scottish one, Astro girl and the one with the piercings etc and they all look pretty exciting fighters aswell but i do miss the fights to get in the house which was ommited this year due to the new set up.

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Nice bit of upset for the HW division, but it does just go to show that once you get past number 2 or 3, the division is not high quality.

Arlovski was properly smashing both fists down at the end there. As Seanbaby once said in a Cracked article, "like an ape testing luggage".

Nelson/Hunt next week! Surely that's guaranteed to have the 'heart', 'warrior' and 'leaving it all in the cage' cliches rolling out?

Unless Nelson just jams him up in a crucifix...

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Yobo Ahoy

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Anyone see Bellator at the weekend? Pretty good main and Liam McGeary looked awesome. Probably the best foreign fed now for watching exciting UK fighters now with McGeary, MVP and Daley.

Oh and also an appearance by the owner of the worst nickname I've ever heard, Tommy "Feel Free To Hate On Me" Bagnasco. Thankfully he got choked out by Ryan Couture pretty quickly. It's so bad, it's even worse than Lombard's new one.

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I wonder if there's any chance of redemption for Semtex? I mean, doesn't everyone want to punch Koschek? Plus theres so much deadwood TUF rejects and tedious decsion mongers that theres got to be room for a KO artist? I guess it means Dana backing down but he did with Tito, and womens mma so maybe theres a chance.

Did anyone listen to Mike Dolce on JRE? It was interesting to hear the story involving BJ Penns blaming him for his ldestruction at teh hands of Edgar of him then Dolces riposte. Thankfully BJ has retired and he can save embarrassing himself in and out of the cage.

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