Official Mixed Martial Arts Thread

[Yobo Ahoy]

Can't stand him regardless of this stuff so doesn't do much to change my opinion.

Disappointed about Bisping on Wednesday, he didn't seem as sharp as he has been. Whether that's the time out, his age or purely Kennedy's wrestling or all three, who knows. Really good event actually, the TUF winners looked pretty good too.

[McFly]

I think it was a a bit of all three for Bisping, he'd been out a long time, and i dont care how many fights he's had against an opponent like Kennedy whose on a roll himself its gonna be hard to keep up, though Bisping took some good shots from Tim and absorbed them better than i thought he would've.

[McFly]

Some good action on Saturday, stoked for Cowboy and Werdum looked amazing, i had Browne winning that pretty easily really, cant wait for his fight against Cain.

[Yobo Ahoy]

Really enjoyed Saturday's! Werdum looked amazing, been a fan of his for ages but his stand up is awesome now... but I too was a bit worried that Browne may get the elbows out again. As it happened he was totally outclassed, Werdum's strikes and showmanship were outstanding. That title fight is going to be incredible.

[schmojo]

Bisping's time in the sun seems like it might be over. Wonder how many fights he has left on his megabucks contract? Suspect that he'll either take a pay cut, or retire to the announcer's desk. Not that he can't still talk his way into big fights, but not as many people will be calling him out now that he doesn't look like the easiest win in the top 5.

Great showing by Werdum, and I'm glad that Browne's low fight IQ has been shown up. I'm sure he can be great, but he's ridden on a decent chin and his size until now. I'd like to see Struve get another shot at him when he returns - he had him beaten soundly until the hail mary superman punch. I see Cain's pressure game smothering Werdum but, as we've seen, even Cain is vulnerable to a nicely placed strike. I'd probably rather see Werdum/JDS 2 at this point, but that's a nice one for the future.

Worried about Cerrone a little. I know that many great fighters take a few minutes to work out their opponent's game before swarming, but Barbosa was landing hard, significant strikes. Cerrone can't afford too many fights like that if he's going to maintain his hectic schedule.

[McFly]

I think Bisping still has a good two years at least left as a contender, assuming he has no major injuries again, people want to fight him and lots of American fans want to see him get battered after the TUF thing and his big mouth, like you say, can get him some decent fights.Possibley the Luke Rockhold Tim Botsch, after this fight of theirs.

[Scribblor]

If that's true, and I were Bisping, I'd retire. I can't

Imagine anything worse than being the official stepping stone. Especially one that has to use his big mouth (rather than his w/l record) to get a decent fight.

[schmojo]

Thing is, he's on huge money. He gets paid more than champions (~350k per fight). Will he even care about fighting if he has to take a huge pay cut?

Admittedly they haven't built an heir apparent for him in the UK, even though they have more fighters from here than ever, but I find it hard to believe that he sells so many tickets? It's been 6 UK events since he even fought here - though injury contributed to that.

On another note - Arlovski's back! I think he's got Schaub first, which is winnable for him (both pretty glass jawed at this point), but if he gets past him, I can only imagine a Travis Browne or Overeem right hand crushing his poor skull to dust.

Go Andrei!

[Gotters]

great dominating performance by Jones, never for a moment thought Glover had him in any trouble - I know a lot of people dislike him but as a fighter he's simply on a another level, what I never understand though is why doesn't everybody else (or at least the top guys) have the variety he does too, nothing stopping them doing those oblique kicks and that new shoulder twist thing he did. I suspect he's just willing to put in so much more focussed and intelligent effort than all the rest and must train endlessly. Same argument as why can't all footballers use both feet, these are skills that can be learnt and aren't natural gifts

[Yobo Ahoy]

Bit of an anticlimatic main event... it's weird, pre-UFC167 Gustafsson was supposed to be the untried chancer and everyone thought Glover should have been given the shot. Glover didn't really show much yesterday at all for that to be remotely true, he was so one-dimensional.

Luckily the rest of the event really delivered, Rockhold, Miller and Rumble looked incredible.

[Gotters]

yeah Jones was incredibly impressive but I hope refs start taking points for that nasty habit he has of poking out extended fingers to keep an opponent at distance - its clearly aimed to eye poke and easily remedied by a strong ref.

[Yobo Ahoy]

Yeah, it's been confirmed Gus has the next shot. As for Rumble's next fight, I wouldn't mind seeing him vs Shogun. Or maybe OSP.

[BrerLappin]

yeah Jones was incredibly impressive but I hope refs start taking points for that nasty habit he has of poking out extended fingers to keep an opponent at distance - its clearly aimed to eye poke and easily remedied by a strong ref.

If poking eyes and trying to fuck people knees is impressive, then yeah he was real impressive. Seriously the eye gouging Jones does is disgusting. The whole fight he had his hand on Glovers face getting in eye pokes.

Id consider him impressive if he was ever actually fighting people that even remotely matched him in size but he doesnt, and its easy to put on a dominant performance against someone who you have an almost 10" reach advantage over, and are almost 10 years younger than. The one time he fought someone the same size as him, he got battered and was blessed with a decision win.

[Gotters]

I don't get the knee fucking comment - its a fight and all legal blows are designed to hurt your opponent, what do you think he's doing wrong knee wise ?

I said that the eye/finger thing isn't on and needs to be called & stopped, are you suggesting everything legitimate he does is all off the back of his illegal finger jabs ?

That though doesn't discount all the great legitimate things he does, he has some vicious elbows and kick techniques and that arm/shoulder lock/twist thing was something I've never seen anybody try before.

[McFly]

The eye poking is wrong and should have been deducted point(s) as he kept doing it, maybe not contacting the eyeball but it was still dangerous.

As for the knee comment, thats just bizarre, anybody who throws leg kicks could be said to be doing that, Barbosa and Aldo should be banned following that philosophy.

Jones just shut down Glover, he couldnt get going at all. Bring on Gus 2!

[schmojo]

Hand fighting is a big part of his wrestling background, but he needs to be more careful. Point deductions against Gustafsson aren't exactly likely to do him any favours...

Maybe that's Dana's dream: Gus wins the belt by decision after a point deduction for a Jones eyepoke, setting up the real decider. GUS VS JONES III: THE LANKENING.

[McFly]

Speaking of Dana, i wonder if he had awords with the winner of last nights TUF fight, it was diabolical.

guy gets full mount multiple times and does, nothing doesnt even try to get a sub and threw about 5 punches total in the fight. Great wrestling and transitions but seriously wtf was he dong, or not doing rather

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[Throbin Hood]

Speaking of Dana, i wonder if he had awords with the winner of last nights TUF fight, it was diabolical.

guy gets full mount multiple times and does, nothing doesnt even try to get a sub and threw about 5 punches total in the fight. Great wrestling and transitions but seriously wtf was he dong, or not doing rather

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which tuf? There are a couple going on at the moment.

[schmojo]

TUF Micronesia/San Marino: The Grudge

[McFly]

which tuf? There are a couple going on at the moment.

The Penn/Edgar one on BT.

[Throbin Hood]

I would be more excited for Micronesia TUF than any of the ones going on now. I'm actually watching the brazilian one just for all the ridiculousness they can come up with. The product placement is some Hawaii 5-0 level and the batshit crazy rule changes seemingly on the fly are hilarious.

[Couch Corpse]

Did anyone catch McGregor pissed up on the MMA Hour, car crash.

[Gotters]

Brown v Silva main event is the best fight since Jones v Gus - amazing fight

[Yobo Ahoy]

Yeah, great fight. I am a fan of Erick Silva but I'm not sure what he's done for people to consider him a title contender in waiting. He is technically excellent but flakey as fuck and was blowing out of his arse after the (admittedly incredible) first round. Interested what next for Matt Brown though, the welterweight division is looking great at the moment.

[schmojo]

Brown/Silva was indeed an excellent fight. Some fantastically exciting grappling going on, and great drama.

I don't really know what's going on with Silva though, as he seemed a rock solid monster until he got Fitched.

I'd like to see Brown taking on Robbie Lawler next, though he might be booked up. They're talking about Hector Lombard too. I think Condit would probably just look a little too good for Brown at this time.

[Couch Corpse]

While he's on a good run Brown hasn't really beat anyone of note, I'd like to see the Condit fight or Ellenberger.

[schmojo]

Regardless of recent results, I'd always rate Condit above Lawler or Lombard. Woodley too, really.

Giving Brown a title fight would be nuts, but there isn't a more obvious contender right now. Macdonald needs a win or two badly. Woodley's riding high on paper, but nobody thinks he's the second best in the division.

[McFly]

Carlos Condit is the best all round fighter other than MacDonald in the division in my eyes. I'd love to see him fight Brown though, that'd be a cracker.

[Yobo Ahoy]

I'd like to see Tarec Saffiedine fight again soon, he looked great in the Lim fight.

[McFly]

Wow, what a card that is, insanity.