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Rex Grossman
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Watched both codes today. Gutsy win from the Red Roses against France, who put up some formidable defence but were unlucky with injuries.

 

Meanwhile a crummy opening ceremony for the Rugby League World Cup was followed by England demolishing Samoa.

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Scotland threw that away big time, should have had another 1 or 2 tries at least. Thought the ref had a shocker giving that knock-on against Hogg and the deliverate knock on and yellow card was well harsh, even the NZ commentator said so, he clearly went for a tackle. But regardless Scotland  choked, the nerves were visible.

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Haven't seen that much of Wales this year, besides this match, but aware it's not been a great time. That was quite the capitulation today though. Didn't take enough advantage of the two consecutive yellows for Australia, and then just lost their heads in the last 15. That's 9 lost out of 12 this year now? Surely no one can survive that.

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More of the same unfortunately.

 

Pretty depressing to see how far Wales have fallen. The whole system has been screwed for forty years or more but a great squad and coaching team let us go beyond all that over the last decade or so.

 

I’m not someone who subscribes to wanting to see my team lose in the hope of seeing change because everyone in Welsh rugby will carry on regardless. 
 

But… all this talk of Gats coming back. I don’t know. I guess he could shore things up and make us more respectable for the World Cup but the system will still be a shambles. I remember Jonathan Davies calling it out back in the 80’s and I didn’t really understand but he was right and nothing has changed. 

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It's a complete mess from the  ground up, regions should never have happened the way they did, it was a massive mistake that's finally come home to roost. Making 5 regions, leaving all the power in the clubs and expecting it to all come together somehow was never going to work, it was insane for them to think the valleys would travel to Cardiff to support a Cardiff team. 

 

The WRU has to do something soon to sort out this mess not just for the international level or the finances, they have to do it to save Rugby in Wales, my local club no longer has a youth team ffs.

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No surprises, feel a little sorry for Pivac, when he came into the job he said from the ground up it's about 20 years behind where it should be and was trying to change things  I wonder if he focused to much on the wider stuff rather than just the team.

 

Feels like going backwards though although I don't really think there's much choice at this point. 

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But Gatland did plenty to try and save the system in Wales. It can’t be saved in its current form though.

 

I tried to  be supportive of Pivac but his players management was dire and at times unforgivable.

 

If Gats was just back short term that’s one thing but it’s interesting that he is lined up for multiple years. I wonder if sympathy or ambition drove his decision. Does he see enough in this squad to believe they are capable of a quick turnaround?

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No idea how Bath are going to come in under the salary cap next year considering a lot of the recent acquisitions. Interesting though, i've heard a few interviews with other Scottish players in the west country (Hogg, Hastings) who seemed really happy so maybe that had an influence. Like you say though, great to have him in the premiership and based on the way most games are being played it should be right up his street too,

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18 hours ago, phresh said:

No idea how Bath are going to come in under the salary cap next year considering a lot of the recent acquisitions. Interesting though, i've heard a few interviews with other Scottish players in the west country (Hogg, Hastings) who seemed really happy so maybe that had an influence. Like you say though, great to have him in the premiership and based on the way most games are being played it should be right up his street too,

I believe that Russell's salary doesn't count towards the salary cap under "marquee player" rules. 

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Good shout, I forgot there were a few exceptions. I imagine there will be an exodus of English players anyway, a few have already announced moves to France and you can imagine a few more that won't make it to another world cup will probably do the same. 

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19 hours ago, phresh said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/64069729
 

World rugby implementing shot clocks and getting rid of fannying around time before line outs. Oh, and no water carriers on until a try is scored. Thank fucking god.

That is brilliant, been meaning to dad about this for ages. If a kicker has some bizarre routine pre-kick that's on them.

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