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1 minute ago, Stigweard said:

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Well that's, that then. How a team can go out and play like they did against NZ and then not even look like that same team I'll never know. 

They Simply haven’t been allowed to play that well . Credit to SA they have been immense . 

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The focus will be on England being bad, but really South Africa dominated from start to finish and didn’t allow England a sniff. A few marginals went their way but nothing unjustly, just a supreme delivery on a hugely effective gameplan.

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30 minutes ago, glb said:

The focus will be on England being bad, but really South Africa dominated from start to finish and didn’t allow England a sniff. A few marginals went their way but nothing unjustly, just a supreme delivery on a hugely effective gameplan.

Definetly.

 

The second half especially, England just kept running at them and South Africa were compressing the England attack so there was no width or room to pass so it was just man after man running into a mass of bodies over and again. That's where the tries came from, by forcing England into that it gave South Africa room when turning the ball over to take advantage.

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I have to say well done to SA. They beat us fair and square, the line outs, scrum and defense were exactly what you need in a final and we just didn't have an answer. 

 

But, we beat New Zealand, Australia and Argentina on the way to the final, I think we can hold our heads high and say we were beaten by a better team on the day. 

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Well, if I read it right, they're saying that all the things they did which took them over the cap, were not in fact applicable to the cap. They're helping them with investments to give them a source of income after retirement, that sort of thing. I mean, the cynical view on this is pretty obvious so it doesn't look particularly right or good to me either, though I haven't read into it in any depth. I suspect it will come down to what the lawyers can argue rather than actual morals and fairness. Presumably they can afford some pretty good ones too.

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The idea that they were given the choice of having their accounts audited or accepting automatic relegation, and then chose relegation suggests that there's a lot of iffy behaviour that has yet to be exposed. 

 

Surely the taxman is going to start asking questions now? 

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If you asked me 4 months ago I would have said England with a grandslam this coming 6 nations but with all that's happened with the Saracens and Billy V now out it's looking a lot more open. 

 

There are big reshuffles with Scotland, Ireland, Wales and France going in so England easily being the most settled team going in looked an easy choice but all this has really thrown a spanner in the works. 

 

Really looking forward to it now. 

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