CrispinG Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 i definitely disagree with that. i thought it was completely heartfelt which makes him even more unlikeable and allowed Mike his final moment of dignity, still talking down to Walter. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Yeah, that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I saw it as Walt and his ego being his usual self feeling the need to prove how clever he is and letting Mike know he can do it without him. anyway. There seemed to be regret from Walt instantly after he shot him but once he found him down on the bank there was no empathy that I could see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowchivas Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 It was a heat of the moment rage killing brought on by Walt's anger at being accused by Mike as to being the cause of everyone's problems and his frustration at being unable to get the names of the nine guys from Mike. He (wrongly) saw Mike's departure as leaving him at the mercy of the guys in lockup and decided to kill Mike for it. Only after the fact does he remember Lydia and therefore, to me, his apology and regret over his actions was genuine and all the more repulsive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Cochese Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Yes, that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentazm Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 That line just seemed really fake and our of place/character to me. Said with almost as much conviction as when he was fake acting earlier in the episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myoozikk Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 The way i saw it was Walt didn't mean, or really want to shoot Mike, but Mike not giving him the 9 guys details plus the "insult" of it all being his fault got Walt's blood up & as Mike started to drive away Walt shot, it was all very spur of the moment & half assed. If Walt had planned to kill Mike i think he would have done it a bit better than this. Walt seemed in shock after doing it & more scared than anything, especially as he opened the car door. Then when he found Mike down the by the river & realises that Mike isn't out to shoot him back he kinda just realises how he could have got the names from Lydia & how stupid & pointless it was. Mike rightly tells him to STFU but i certainly didn't see it as fake. I think it was just a moment of realisation of what a tit he is. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pob Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I love the way the writers mess with your expectations. At first it was like "Shit Mike got away, Walt is fucked!", then you see his car veer off and it's "okay, he got him." Then "Wait, he's gone! Walt's back to being fucked again", and finally "Oh. Mike really is dead ". I wonder how they'll bring Jesse back into now he's "out". Maybe he'll go back to his gf and Brock will say something about the poisoning (unlikely - a bit contrived). Also, when do we think the time-lapse will occur, when Walt grows his hair and beard. After the next episode? Or right near the end of the run? Finally, isn't shanking nine different inmates going to be an impossible task? Once more than a couple go down, the rest will be put under guard pretty sharpish. A better option for Walt would be to find a way to continue to pay them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 aren't you guys forgetting that none of those 9 guys can lead the police to Walt or Jessie can they? Not directly anyway. Only via Lydia surely? I think that Lawyer will tell the police everything he knows anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowchivas Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Finally, isn't shanking nine different inmates going to be an impossible task? Once more than a couple go down, the rest will be put under guard pretty sharpish. A better option for Walt would be to find a way to continue to pay them. Walt has a vial or ricin. Easier to poison them than shank them I think. aren't you guys forgetting that none of those 9 guys can lead the police to Walt or Jessie can they? Not directly anyway. Only via Lydia surely? I think that Lawyer will tell the police everything he knows anyway Some of them can identify Walt and Jesse as they were laundromat employees who saw them come and go to the lab and helped with deliveries etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Ah, OK then fair enough. Well Todd did mention he had links in prison... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pob Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Walt has a vial or ricin. Easier to poison them than shank them I think. Maybe. Walt would have to slip Todd's prison contact a load of ricin and poison all of their soups at the same time. Assuming they are all in the same jail. The idea of killing all nine before the authorities make the connection and put the rest under protection is a little far-fetched. Actually, are they all in prison? Or is it just some of them e.g the laundry manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowchivas Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Maybe. Walt would have to slip Todd's prison contact a load of ricin and poison all of their soups at the same time. Assuming they are all in the same jail. The idea of killing all nine before the authorities make the connection and put the rest under protection is a little far-fetched. Actually, are they all in prison? Or is it just some of them e.g the laundry manager? Yes it would have to be carefully co-ordinated but it's not impossible. Not for Heisenberg. All nine are in jail and are withstanding pressure from the DEA as their familes are telling them that Mike's "legacy" payments are coming through regularly. This is why Walt needs to take them out as now that Mike is dead and his lawyer flipped the nine guys will get no more money and have no more reason to keep silent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Ricin + Todd's contacts = 9 pretty easily dead prison naughties. It'll raise suspicion of course which I reckon will trigger Hank's final search for Heisenburg and the end of the show. Walt's gun is to shoot his son, who backchats him one too many times during breakfast. Ricin is the perfect way to take the 9 out. I might make some actually, sounds well easy to drop it into my mates' food for a laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magoo Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Shocking drama as Walt poisons an entire prison at lunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NecroMorrius Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I can't watch the new episode thanks to a Virgin fuckup, so I had to make do with this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llcez4Ko3m4&feature=related I'm surprised anyone can keep a straight face long enough to film a whole scene, with all the messing about Cranston seems to get up to What a wonderful actor. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Janson Posted August 30, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2012 This is so me: 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Runner Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 @ Gubbins I don't think he meant to kill Brock. At least that's what I tell myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispinG Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 no but he was prepared to take the risk it could happen to further his own interests, which is just as bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadruharazzeb Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 He didn't mean to kill Brock, hence him using a poison he knew was non-fatal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joffocakes Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Yeah, doesn't he even give a big obvious line where he explains it as non-fatal? I think he just new it would be non-fatal but still have similar symptoms to ricin poisoning, to panic Jesse with paranoia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowchivas Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 He didn't mean to kill Brock, hence him using a poison he knew was non-fatal. Still, he did poison a child. I doubt it was pleasant for Brock. You're not really defending Walt's actions at this point, are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pob Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Still, he did poison a child. I doubt it was pleasant for Brock. You're not really defending Walt's actions at this point, are you? Well it was a gamble, but his actions did save Hank's life and probably also his own. So, you know.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispinG Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 i thought the doctor in that episode pretty clearly said the kid was lucky to be alive and if they hadn't known he was poisoned he'd have died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadruharazzeb Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Still, he did poison a child. I doubt it was pleasant for Brock. You're not really defending Walt's actions at this point, are you? Just defending him against accusations that he intended to KILL the boy, which he most certainly did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Brock had a bad taste in videogames so I don't think Walt's actions were beyond reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpagMasterSwift Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 So many conflicting emotions. I accidentally saw that river gif so was waiting to see who was gonna end up dead in there. When Mike opened up that hole in the desert I half expected him to put himself in there, so hopeless was his situation. No chance of a peaceful retirement, it's almost as if he forced Walt's hand. He could have killed him, but decided it was time to stop with the life, let it all go. Even if he had escaped, I don't think he could have lived without his Grand Daughter. A key moment in Walt's journey, but the show will feel that bit empty without Mike. I'm a pour out a little liquor for you, man. That start was epic. Please to meet you, hope you guess my name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapa Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 So the movie Mike was watching was about a cop committing suicide. In the same episode Hank jokes about blowing his head off after leaving Walt 'crying' in his office. Hank to commit suicide? He finds out Heisenberg has been under his nose this whole time. We've already seen he's a bit mentally fragile under all that bluster, maybe it's easier to kill himself than deal with the shame. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovelyman Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Please to meet you, hope you guess my name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Omfg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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