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Fifteen year old. FIFTEEN. :o

 

Gotta feel for anyone Gauff plays against cause everyone on her side so much.

 

I know winning the tournament is probably never going to happen but would love to see her get to the quarters at least.

 

Shes so humble too.

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That was an amazing comeback from Gauff. Would love her to go further but think that might be it.

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32 minutes ago, Stigweard said:

Fifteen year old. FIFTEEN. :o

 

Gotta feel for anyone Gauff plays against cause everyone on her side so much.

 

I know winning the tournament is probably never going to happen but would love to see her get to the quarters at least.

 

Shes so humble too.

 

She's genuinely the most impressive new tennis player I've seen. Male or female quite honestly. The upcoming men currently seem incapable to knocking the oldies off the top spots on a regular basis, and - for me at least - women's tennis hasn't had anyone able to consistently up their game enough to come close to how Serena was. I'd high hopes of Osaka becoming really, really great but it would appear she's going through a bit of a blue patch at the moment, which is a shame. 

 

Very exciting though!

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Is there any sports man or woma. More boring than this kyrgios guy? I don't think so. 

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Great day yesterday. I was hoping centre would overrun so we might get Murray/Serena on our court, but in the end we got two fantastic matches on Konta/Stephens and Evans/Sousa.

 

Ironically, my two favoured players lost: I think both Evans and Stephens are really lovely players to watch. Evans has such variety in his game, and Stephens has grace in her movement and loose hitting - and she can do so many different things with her forehand. Both could and probably should have won in straight sets - it was really blunt lesson in the importance of taking the opportunities when you're on top. I think Evans was up a break early in four or perhaps even all five sets played. 

 

Serena's match wasn't great, but amazing to see her up close. It's interesting that she almost completely shuts down between points: first she stops moving, then slowly ambles across the court as if conserving every ounce of energy - and then as soon as the point starts she explodes into action and moves brilliantly - far better than I ever thought she did. 

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Federer looked almost as good as Nadal, but Berratini froze and was pretty poor. That Federer/Nadal semi looks extremely likely at this stage. 

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Christ alive.

 

Jo Konta is literally The female version of Tim Henman.

 

Bags of talent, plays great but then wobbles all over the place.

 

Complete lack of consistency makes her incredibly frustrating to watch.

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Oh God, really? I hate how misunderstood Henman's career was and still is. He was one of the game's great overachievers. Top 10 in the world for most of his career; grand slam semifinalist at three slams - all achieved playing serve & volley with balls to the wall commitment to coming in behind a serve that actually wasn't big enough to get him out of trouble - unlike those he was competing against.

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It's fascinating to watch Serena Williams play mixed doubles. I reckon she could have won a few slams on the men's circuit. She's comfortably the best player on the court, and returning Fabrice Martin first serves for winners. 

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13 minutes ago, feltmonkey said:

It's fascinating to watch Serena Williams play mixed doubles. I reckon she could have won a few slams on the men's circuit. She's comfortably the best player on the court, and returning Fabrice Martin first serves for winners. 

 

Yeah, she's a fucking force of nature!

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So, I had similar thoughts watching her, about how her phenomenal strength and power - not to mention skill - would surely mean that she could be competitive in men's tournaments. However, this seems to be discussed a lot online and many claim that, for example, rankings-wise, she would have been well into the thousands, even at her peak. I was pretty surprised that the gulf could be that large and I'm not sure I completely buy it. And of course, there are at least a couple of factors in her case that might lead certain people to be less than fair about it...

 

(She's amazing either way, obviously.)

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Can't say I'm overly optimistic about Federer's chances in the semis. When Fed was on top of Nadal a couple of years back I felt the aggressive backhand return was the key. Recently he's hardly been doing it all, instead reverting to chipping it back. Even if he can suddenly just switch back into attacking, Nadal's serve feels bigger, more accurate, and more varied. I'd love to be wrong, but I have a strong feeling for Nadal here - in fact, I might even say the top semi is in more doubt, where I certainly don't expect Bautista Agut to win, but I think he will really surprise people.

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Completely agree. As much as I’d love it to be a classic I think Nadal will win in straight sets. As competitive and closely matched as they’ve been I’ve over career I can’t remember ever being truly surprised about the result when they’ve played. 

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I have also resigned myself to Nadal winning.

 

On the plus side I'm going to Wimbledon for the second time this year, managed to scoop tickets to the women's final (first time I've entered the ballot!).

 

I saw Halep demolish Azarenka in week one and I think she's got a good chance against Serena. That being said I hope that Serena can do it though if only to put Margaret Court to bed.

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If by the time they've all retired Nadal has won the most grand slams, will he be considered the GOAT? If not, how many more grand slams than Fed (or Djo) would he have to win? 

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If Fed ends up with more then Nadal has the head-to-head to muddy the waters; if Nadal does then he won an overwhelming number of his at just one slam. Both can be 'criticised' in that Djokovic has at times raised the game to a level where neither appeared able to compete. Djokovic could surpass them both (I don't think so though), but both he and Nadal have benefitted from a general slowing and consolidating of court speeds, facilitating the dominance of a 'one size fits all' playing style which suited them perfectly, as both have an unbelievably consistent baseline game as their foundation.

 

I don't think it's possible to split them, and I'm not really sure it matters*.

 

 

* (Obviously Federer is the best :))

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Hmm, Federer been brilliant on serve so far, looking unbreakable... I'm not getting excited - I think I've seen this film before. 

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6 hours ago, stephen129 said:

If by the time they've all retired Nadal has won the most grand slams, will he be considered the GOAT? If not, how many more grand slams than Fed (or Djo) would he have to win? 

 

For me Fed will always be the best because of his style of play. Like in footy, Ronaldo may win more trophies or awards, but Messi wins your heart. 

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Man, what a set. I thought Federer played incredibly well, yet I was still convinced he'd lose it pretty much till the end. Game on now.

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I think Federer needed that break. His return has been unbelievable, but it feels like Nadal is starting to nibble at Federer's backhand now. 

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3 minutes ago, the_debaser said:

The standard is ridiculous. Djokovic will be worried. 

 

Djokovic will be loving every energy-sapping minute.

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