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Nathan Wind

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They both save fine. Syndicate is a conversion of the Amiga version which, while it might not sound all that impressive, makes it better than the other console versions. It does have some inexplicable slowdown, but overall it’s a very good port. Cannon Fodder is pretty good on the Jag too. Nice clean music and ambient sound effects. Balls hard to control on that d-pad though.

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To be fair, Syndicate didn’t save absolutely everything but it was near as damnit. I think it rounded cash up or down to the nearest hundred, something similar with tax levels, only saved completed research. But your team and their kit were saved and any completed stuff.

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47 minutes ago, Nathan Wind said:

To be fair, Syndicate didn’t save absolutely everything but it was near as damnit. I think it rounded cash up or down to the nearest hundred, something similar with tax levels, only saved completed research. But your team and their kit were saved and any completed stuff.

 

Ah, I knew that it was janky somehow. I remember being quite dissappointed back in the day.

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11 hours ago, Protocol Penguin said:

Seems like there were a fair amount of Amiga ports on the Jag, minus the full save features. :( 

Yeah, there are quite a few crossover ports with the Amiga:

 

Brutal Sports Football
Cannon Fodder
Flashback: The Quest for Identity
The Humans
International Sensible Soccer
Myst
Pinball Fantasies
Primal Rage
Soccer Kid
Syndicate
Theme Park
Worms
Zool 2

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1 hour ago, electricmastro said:

Yeah, there are quite a few crossover ports with the Amiga:

 

Brutal Sports Football
Cannon Fodder
Flashback: The Quest for Identity
The Humans
International Sensible Soccer
Myst
Pinball Fantasies
Primal Rage
Soccer Kid
Syndicate
Theme Park
Worms
Zool 2

That 68000 processor making ports easier, I guess…

 

Have to be honest, the only Jag games I remember looking impressive, or “next gen” as we said back then, were Doom and Wolfenstein 3D. Particularly Doom. I suspect they weren’t quite contemporary high-end PC standard, but back then you’d have to have spent over a grand on a PC to play Doom otherwise.

 

(I remember seeing a Jaguar at a retro event in a pub six years ago playing a game that looked like a bit like Super Hang-On. Suppose that used the hardware somewhat.) 

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That’s Super Burnout and it’s ridiculously impressive. Sprite scaling way beyond anything else at the time and it’s crazy fast.  Earlier in the thread there was some discussion about it and someone said Super Hang On on MD had more impressive graphics. I suspect it may even have been you, could be wrong. But it’s one of the best Jag games and an impressive game all round. 
 

Power Drive Rally, Super Burnout, Tempest, Missile Command 3D, Iron Soldier, AvP, NBA Jam, Rayman, Defender 2k, Raiden, Wolfenstien, Doom, Cannon Fodder, Syndicate, Ruiner and Pinball Fantasies, Towers 2. All good reasons to own a Jag at one time, but absolutely, positively not worth it at today’s prices. I thought I did alright when I cashed out of my Jag collecting a few years ago…

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So's Power Drive Rally. You look at stills and it looks nice looking, but in motion it's something else. So much detail in the visuals, reflections, shadows, nice big sprites - just all so clean looking and ahead of anything comparable that even the Neo Geo was doing, like Overtop or Drift Out. That's the game I miss the most.  I just can't get it working well enough via emulation.

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Super Burnout is fantastic. I picked it up from Game when I was at uni in Leeds for about £10 in 2004 when they had a clearance basket full of games at a similar price. I also got Missile Command 3D around that time for a similar price, though I think that might have been from Telegames. I can still remember the phone number for Telegames I called them so often back in the day to order Jag games 😂

 

 

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21 hours ago, Protocol Penguin said:

That 68000 processor making ports easier, I guess…

 

Have to be honest, the only Jag games I remember looking impressive, or “next gen” as we said back then, were Doom and Wolfenstein 3D. Particularly Doom. I suspect they weren’t quite contemporary high-end PC standard, but back then you’d have to have spent over a grand on a PC to play Doom otherwise.

 

(I remember seeing a Jaguar at a retro event in a pub six years ago playing a game that looked like a bit like Super Hang-On. Suppose that used the hardware somewhat.) 


I recall the Mega Drive uses a Motorola 68000 as well, which is why it was more frequent to see Amiga ports on there than on SNES.

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Never seen Super Burnout before but that looks very impressive for the time, especially the smooth gradients and sheer speed.

 

I briefly owned a Jaguar back when a fully-boxed machine cost me £70 but only ever had two games for it on account that they were too damn expensive, even back then! One was Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story which was very "meh" but had nice music. The other was the mighty Tempest 2000 which was so good that I ended up keeping the Jag set-up beneath the TV for over a year purely as a Tempest 2000 machine. Eventually sense prevailed and I knew that I couldn't be having all that space wasted by the console (and it's box) just for one game. Got rid of it all for pretty much the same price.

 

I've just looked at the prices of Jaguar consoles now and I'm stunned tbh. I knew they would be worth more, but that's insane. None of it - the machines or the games - are worth that much just to play them.

 

Does it emulate well on the various modern handheld emu devices?

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Nathan Wind

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Club Drive is awful. Considering what Rebellion showed the Jag was capable of, it’s a disgrace that it ever got a fully boxed release. Imagine opening that on Christmas Day, thinking you were getting the latest 3D gaming treat and ending up with something that looks like fucking Driller.

 

 

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31 minutes ago, Nathan Wind said:

Club Drive is awful. Considering what Rebellion showed the Jag was capable of, it’s a disgrace that it ever got a fully boxed release. Imagine opening that on Christmas Day, thinking you were getting the latest 3D gaming treat and ending up with something that looks like fucking Driller.

 

 

 

Now that looks like a better Jaguar showcase. Haha.

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4 hours ago, Nathan Wind said:

Fear not, young one, I am still around to steer the wayward flock towards the true path in their moments of doubt. Moments as when a true Judas appeareth to proclaim SNES DOOM superior in any way to JagDOOM. 
 

BEGONE FIEND

 

The thing is…. I kinda want another Jaguar :o I do regret selling mine and T2k is enough to justify it for me…. Ive probably said before but when I was at college when this launched a mate of mine got his student loan and after going a bit silly with scratch cards blew the rest of it on a Jaguar with cybermorph 😂 Happy days tho, T2k in the student days was was something else….

 

Ohh, and the PS3 pad is far worse than the Jaguar pad so it doesn’t hold the worst pad ever slight!

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1 hour ago, Afternoon Delight said:

Probably been mentioned already but I remember going into electronics boutique and seeing Jag's piled high for £20 a pop. Pitfall was the bundled game. 

Of course I didn't buy one.

I remember that! They didn't have Tempest 2000 which was the only game I wanted. There was a feature I read in Gamesmaster magazine where they got The Prodigy to play T2K. This was when Keith looked normal.  

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Nathan Wind

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A new emulator has just been released, claiming 100% compatibility with all the commercial games. I’m going to give it a whirl later. The last time I tried a Jag emulator it was absolute shite, so I shall keep my expectations in check. However, I’ll be over the moon if it lets me have a decent blast on Power Drive, Super Burnout, AvP and JagDOOM! 
 

 

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