Atari Jaguar

[AceGrace]

I've got a working Jaguar and CD add on both boxed and quite a few games except Rayman (Grrrr - so pricey).

 

It actually pains me to think that the machine was capable of so much more but released with a memory manager bug and handled by Atari.

 

Most of the games are unspectacular and clunky but for some reason I love it and wouldn't part with it.

 

If anyone has a rayman they want to part with for not a silly price, I'd be interested.

[SeanR]

the everGameDrive pre-orders are up.

 

$180 though

 

https://www.retrorgb.com/jaguar-gamedrive-pre-orders-open.html

[Nathan Wind]

Jagfans ASSEMBLE!

 

I'm cashing out.  Rather than stick these in Trading where they won't be seen by the forums 2 Jaguar owners, I've got a couple of those recent repro Pro Controllers for sale.  If anyone here wants them before I fling them on eBay you can have 'em at £45 posted.  Caveat - these have incredibly fragile pins and you need to be extremely careful inserting them into the ports. Some also have an issue where they need opening up and the d-pad rubber reseating because it was slightly askew.  I think one of these had that going on but I never got around to fixing it.  Jag's all packed up so I can't check.

[Lorfarius]

Well, well, well...

[Nathan Wind]

On 20/05/2021 at 13:18, Lorfarius said:

Well, well, well...

And it's gone! Didn't even last 4 hours on the local FB page before someone snapped it up.  Such is the draw of the greatest gaming console the world has ever known.

[Dudley]

You should have told me you were selling a Master System.

[mwaawm]

On 20/05/2021 at 10:53, Nathan Wind said:

Jagfans ASSEMBLE!

 

I'm cashing out.  Rather than stick these in Trading where they won't be seen by the forums 2 Jaguar owners, I've got a couple of those recent repro Pro Controllers for sale.  If anyone here wants them before I fling them on eBay you can have 'em at £45 posted.  Caveat - these have incredibly fragile pins and you need to be extremely careful inserting them into the ports. Some also have an issue where they need opening up and the d-pad rubber reseating because it was slightly askew.  I think one of these had that going on but I never got around to fixing it.  Jag's all packed up so I can't check.

Authentic Jaguar build quality right there.... its what Nathan and fellow Jag fans pay a premium for. 

[mwaawm]

On 15/01/2021 at 11:55, owen2471 said:

I've still got my original jaguar. also managed to pick up a cd add on for it years ago, from Telegames in Leicester. Loved Tempest 2000 and still do. The CD addon resembled a toilet when fitted on top of the jaguar. Someone from Atari must have had a great sense of humour when designing that.

You've posted the only thing that could stink this thread up any more.

 

Remember trying to buy some atari lynx stuff from these rip of merchants back in the day.... real trailblazing pioneers of the collector's item as opposed to dead console marketing mantra.

 

 

Curiosity and Google got the better of me and I've just been to 

 

http://www.telegames.co.uk/

 

Fortunately only scrolled through a few pages before I came to my senses and escaped before they had a chance to turn me into a jaguar cuckoo / wife.

[AceGrace]

So what do we think of the Funstock preorders for Switchblade, Head Over Heels and Impossamole?

I'm tempted to preorder.

[SeanR]

 

switchblade…impossamole, head over heels. In that order. Maybe. 

[Anne Summers]

15 hours ago, AceGrace said:

So what do we think of the Funstock preorders for Switchblade, Head Over Heels and Impossamole?

I'm tempted to preorder.

I think it's ridiculous, is anyone going to pay almost £50 for any of those games just to play on their Jag, when they will (I think) just be straight ports that could be played on any emulator, or far more cheaply on something like the Evercade? 

[Lorfarius]

4 minutes ago, Anne Summers said:

I think it's ridiculous, is anyone going to pay almost £50 for any of those games just to play on their Jag, when they will (I think) just be straight ports that could be played on any emulator, or far more cheaply on something like the Evercade? 

 

You could ask the same question for countless other homebrew releases on the NES, SNES, MegaDrive, Neo Geo AES, Dreamcast etc. etc. etc. Loads of games have come out for those and cartridges tend to float around the £50 mark. They sell. I mean I paid £50 for Metal Storm on the NES and all of the newer Dizzy releases. Some of those cost me £120 a piece for a box/cartridge and manual. Alex Kidd 3 easily hits £150-£250 when it pops up on eBay and that's the same sort of thing.

[Anne Summers]

17 minutes ago, Lorfarius said:

 

You could ask the same question for countless other homebrew releases on the NES, SNES, MegaDrive, Neo Geo AES, Dreamcast etc. etc. etc. Loads of games have come out for those and cartridges tend to float around the £50 mark. They sell. I mean I paid £50 for Metal Storm on the NES and all of the newer Dizzy releases. Some of those cost me £120 a piece for a box/cartridge and manual. Alex Kidd 3 easily hits £150-£250 when it pops up on eBay and that's the same sort of thing.

Wow, I am not really too up to date with the homebrew scene so I didn't realise any of that. NES and SNES stuff I find slightly less surprising (though still crazy) because I know those systems have a lot of hardcore collectors, specially in the US. 

What did you pay £120 for if you don't mind me asking ?

Is it because they (presumably) only sell in small numbers and so at some point will become hard to find, and therefore more valuable? Or is it the owning/holding something that's officially licensed but still rare?

[MikeJ]

34 minutes ago, Anne Summers said:

I think it's ridiculous, is anyone going to pay almost £50 for any of those games just to play on their Jag, when they will (I think) just be straight ports that could be played on any emulator, or far more cheaply on something like the Evercade? 

 

I doubt many of those games (or similar releases on other consoles) will actually be played by the people that buy them.

[Nathan Wind]

1 hour ago, Anne Summers said:

Wow, I am not really too up to date with the homebrew scene so I didn't realise any of that. NES and SNES stuff I find slightly less surprising (though still crazy) because I know those systems have a lot of hardcore collectors, specially in the US.

Bizarrely, the Jag has one of the healthiest (depending on your definition of the word) retro scenes out there. 

[Lorfarius]

6 hours ago, Anne Summers said:

Wow, I am not really too up to date with the homebrew scene so I didn't realise any of that. NES and SNES stuff I find slightly less surprising (though still crazy) because I know those systems have a lot of hardcore collectors, specially in the US. 

What did you pay £120 for if you don't mind me asking ?

Is it because they (presumably) only sell in small numbers and so at some point will become hard to find, and therefore more valuable? Or is it the owning/holding something that's officially licensed but still rare?

 

Wonderland Dizzy, there''s another one I'm after too which will cost silly money. The only good thing about this is because it came from a Kickstarter it was signed by the Oliver Twins but unsigned go for arond £50-£100. But yes its mainly because they are produced in such small numbers.

[Protocol Penguin]

4 hours ago, Nathan Wind said:

Bizarrely, the Jag has one of the healthiest (depending on your definition of the word) retro scenes out there. 

Serious question: Is that because it’s relatively easy to port ST/Amiga and other 68000 code based games to it (my assumption), or some other factors?

[Nathan Wind]

A lot of it, sure, but there's also good work being done with stuff like reinstating the in-game music and missing enemies in DOOM which is some pretty clever stuff.  There have been some very good original releases over the past few years as well, such as Rebooteroids. And of course, Saint's work on the flash cart.

[SeanR]

16 minutes ago, Protocol Penguin said:

Serious question: Is that because it’s relatively easy to port ST/Amiga and other 68000 code based games to it (my assumption), or some other factors?

totally that.

[Oh Danny Boy]

7 hours ago, Anne Summers said:

I think it's ridiculous, is anyone going to pay almost £50 for any of those games just to play on their Jag, when they will (I think) just be straight ports that could be played on any emulator, or far more cheaply on something like the Evercade? 

If you’re a fan of a system then getting new games released on it with that bit of fan made love mimicking the original retail releases is just wonderful. You could play it on an emulator but you want to take the game out of its case, stick it in the console, see that boot up screen and play on that much loved controller. Sure it’s very superficial but it’s definitely part of the experience, if you’re a Jag fan enjoying these releases in 2021 is something special and well worth the £50 entrance fee. 
 

 

[AceGrace]

I've just preordered them 🤪

 

Now if I could find Rayman for a decent price

[Rex Grossman]

On 03/07/2021 at 18:03, AceGrace said:

So what do we think of the Funstock preorders for Switchblade, Head Over Heels and Impossamole?

I'm tempted to preorder.

I get why people would want to own these for the collections but surely no one wants to play terrible old ST games just because they are running on a console?

[SeanR]

40 minutes ago, Rex Grossman said:

I get why people would want to own these for the collections but surely no one wants to play terrible old ST games just because they are running on a console?

yea, and pay £50 for the privilege 

[AceGrace]

For me it's both. I haven't played anything on my Jaguar for ages so something new would be good and also for the collectors value too.

 

I didn't think this hobby had to make sense?

[Nathan Wind]

It doesn’t, just crack on with doing what you do and not giving a fuck what other people think about it. If you’ve got the readies to spend and this is what you want to spend them on, fuck it. It’s like the seventy quid for a game thing that’s flavour of the month here. That value judgement is entirely yours to make. Knock yourself out.

 

Someone bought my near complete Jaguar game collection for two grand a handful of years ago. I thought they were mad then, but god knows what it’d fetch now.

[Rex Grossman]

12 minutes ago, AceGrace said:

For me it's both. I haven't played anything on my Jaguar for ages so something new would be good and also for the collectors value too.

 

I didn't think this hobby had to make sense?

You say new but the games that were mentioned were tired and dated even when they arrived on the ST. Let alone the time the Jaguar arrived. Or 2021.

 

I just find it hard to believe that if someone had an ST set up at home they would bother playing these games. It’s not like they’re interesting homebrew titles for the Jaguar.

[Anne Summers]

16 hours ago, Lorfarius said:

 

Wonderland Dizzy, there''s another one I'm after too which will cost silly money. The only good thing about this is because it came from a Kickstarter it was signed by the Oliver Twins but unsigned go for arond £50-£100. But yes its mainly because they are produced in such small numbers.

Hang on ... Isn't Wonderland Dizzy the one that was released for free (on the Spectrum) by the Oliver Twins just last year? Is this Jaguar port "official" (i.e have the Oliver Twins cleared it?) If not then surely anyone could just create a box for it and start selling it at £100+ a pop?

[Nathan Wind]

Yes.  Just like the Xenon 2 port that kicked this all off was made with the blessing of Mike Montgomery.

[Lorfarius]

46 minutes ago, Anne Summers said:

Hang on ... Isn't Wonderland Dizzy the one that was released for free (on the Spectrum) by the Oliver Twins just last year? Is this Jaguar port "official" (i.e have the Oliver Twins cleared it?) If not then surely anyone could just create a box for it and start selling it at £100+ a pop?

 

Oops I meant Mystery World Dizzy. But in the Dizzy cases they have approval by Codemasters and are official in so far as I would class them as a proper release. But anyone can hack anything and print a box, many do just look at the likes of Etsy. I'm aiming to get one of the many, many NES copies of FF7 and Pokemon Yellow at some point, over the years I've seen a load pop up with amazing boxes/manuals that were recreations which tend to go for around the £50 mark. If there wasn't a market for them they wouldn't sell but they do. Nothing quite like having a lovely, fresh box on a shelf in a collection than just a plain disc or game. Wouldn't be collectors if we didn't like the actual stuff in hand.

[Anne Summers]

1 hour ago, Lorfarius said:

 

Oops I meant Mystery World Dizzy. But in the Dizzy cases they have approval by Codemasters and are official in so far as I would class them as a proper release. But anyone can hack anything and print a box, many do just look at the likes of Etsy. I'm aiming to get one of the many, many NES copies of FF7 and Pokemon Yellow at some point, over the years I've seen a load pop up with amazing boxes/manuals that were recreations which tend to go for around the £50 mark. If there wasn't a market for them they wouldn't sell but they do. Nothing quite like having a lovely, fresh box on a shelf in a collection than just a plain disc or game. Wouldn't be collectors if we didn't like the actual stuff in hand.

I get it. I have a few little collections myself. Actually what you've said makes it all make a bit more sense to me. To be honest I can see the joy in collection lovingly fan-made Etsy-type stuff over cash-ins from some company that just bought the rights for a well-remembered game in order to make some profit.