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The Torres clause, if it existed at all, was only active next summer if we didn't qualify for the CL.

Purslow rightly thought it would have been terrible for the sale if stars were allowed to leave last summer: Torres has alluded to this in his comments. I can see why such clauses might have been negotiated.

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Can't see him staying this summer though.

If Blackpool keep on plummeting they might have to sell him off super cheap!

I'd hope a decent Europa Cup run would be enough for Reina, pushing towards a good seasons end is crucial.

It's a pity were out of the FA cup a good run there would have been fantastic.

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He's been in great form this season. He should be on for 35+ in all competitions, and 25+ in the league. There isn't much else to his game but with Robben finally back in the team he'll likely get a bit more space in dangerous areas.

I'm glad we ended up with Carroll over him but Gomez is certainly an option I'd have wanted us to consider.

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Looks like our esteemed former owners aren't quite ready to give up yet:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/business-12411353

Former Liverpool co-owner Tom Hicks has asked the High Court to lift orders that are preventing him and business partner George Gillett from(£620m) in damages.

The two believe they are due compensation following the forced £300m sale of the club to New England Sports Ventures (NESV) last October. At the time, they described the sale as "an epic swindle". Mr Hicks wants damages from former club directors and Royal Bank of Scotland.

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Boughton has asked the judge to decide if he acted in the best interests of the club, essentially preventing him from being sued if so.. RBS have pretty much told them to bring it (it being a suit against them), but that the suit must be filed in the UK, which is what a lot of the case hinges on as they spent a lot of energy trying to kill the sale via Texas

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Boughton has asked the judge to decide if he acted in the best interests of the club, essentially preventing him from being sued if so.. RBS have pretty much told them to bring it (it being a suit against them), but that the suit must be filed in the UK, which is what a lot of the case hinges on as they spent a lot of energy trying to kill the sale via Texas

Yeah I've no doubt RBS will give em short shrift, just the nerve of them to keep ploughing on!

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just imagine if we pipped Chelski to fourth, most likely wouldn't happen, but just if we did, in the words of Keegan 'i'd love it'

I have to give it to Daglish i was skeptical of his appointment but thankfully he's proved me wrong. He's stopped the rot and things are looking bright again. It just begs the question what was Hodgson doing wrong to have the side under perform so badly?

Hopefully this result will be a big fuck you to the media that slagged the team off so badly earlier on in the season, they once again proved their quality and that football pundits know jack. i always thought this team was top material still and better than spurs who have been punching above their weight now for 2 seasons (despite all the money redknapp has thrown on the team they still have a poor defense and lack a top quality striker). And after the media had for most of this season been saying that spurs have a better team than us my goal for liverpool this season is to finish above them.

Hmm, as much as I hate Spurs (and I really, really do), I don't think they've been punching above their weight at all. They play some really good football (far nicer on the eye than us), have some proper width, have guile in midfield (Huddlestone is not only a beast but a good player to have sitting deep and Modric is crafty) and defensively they aren't appreciably any worse than us (when players are fit). Anyway, it wasn't just the media saying we were crap, fans were too.

Your post though does illustrate the danger of getting carried away; 4 wins on the bounce is great, but it's no fairer to judge Kenny on 4 wins than to have judged Hodgson on 4 losses. Time will tell over the remainder of the season as to whether Kenny's appointment was of benefit or not.

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Your post though does illustrate the danger of getting carried away; 4 wins on the bounce is great, but it's no fairer to judge Kenny on 4 wins than to have judged Hodgson on 4 losses. Time will tell over the remainder of the season as to whether Kenny's appointment was of benefit or not.

Well, I see the logic in what you're saying, but, like quite a few people said before he came in, it was the only appointment that could have been of benefit at this stage of the season, and that has basically been proven by Kenny Dalglish. The difference is so blatently obvious, that you really can judge it right now. His appointment is a massive benefit, that could potentially be outstanding, should you somehow manage to grab a top 4 finish.

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Very dubious taking four Dalglish wins and comparing them to four Hodgson losses. Even if you totally ignore the statistics, it's the tactics, application and attitude which are most prevalent.

It's what some of us were saying during the darker days of Hodgson's tenture - when we were being told by all-and-sundry (media, rival fans and the more pessimistic among our support) that it was, or close to, our true level. We had been found out as the sub-mediocre team we always were and Hodgson wasn't at fault, because who could string any kind of results together with these donkeys, etc. Ridiculous.

I don't want to get too carried away with how things are going at the moment, but it's good to be enjoying watching the team again and seeing them compete like we knew they could.

Talk of top four is quite fanciful at this stage though - I can totally see where the optimism is coming from, but we're up to 9pts behind the two teams ahead of us. I can see one of them potentially slipping up due to whatever reason (depending on how far Spurs progress in the CL and if it would affect their league form, for example). But for both of them to screw up, whilst we maintain an almost title-winning form to close the gap? Possible, but unlikely. I'm just taking it game by game as Dalglish himself says.

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We've only got 12 games left, so unfortunately I think it's just too late to grab 4th, given how much the rest would have to slip up. The best we can probably hope for is 5th and getting to the Europa League final, which is still brilliant compared to where we were at the start of the year.

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It's what some of us were saying during the darker days of Hodgson's tenture - when we were being told by all-and-sundry (media, rival fans and the more pessimistic among our support) that it was, or close to, our true level. We had been found out as the sub-mediocre team we always were and Hodgson wasn't at fault, because who could string any kind of results together with these donkeys, etc. Ridiculous.

That's absolutely terrific. However last season when we weren't doing much better than under Hodgson some of YOUS were saying we were close to our true level! We'd OVERPERFORMED the previous season, there was no investment, that was the problem. So don't try and paint yourself as an all knowing super genius. You can't have it both ways.

It is amazing though, here we are you a couple of games into a new manager's regime, we've just lost our best player and yet most of us are all super duper pumped!! Me included!

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That's absolutely terrific. However last season when we weren't doing much better than under Hodgson some of YOUS were saying we were close to our true level! We'd OVERPERFORMED the previous season, there was no investment, that was the problem. So don't try and paint yourself as an all knowing super genius. You can't have it both ways.

Last season we underperformed, definitely. This was due to a variety of factors, which we've been through numerous times.

Talk of overperforming the season before that is also true if you hold the view that league standing/performance normally correlates with level of investment.

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Last season we underperformed, definitely. This was due to a variety of factors, which we've been through numerous times.

Talk of overperforming the season before that is also true if you hold the view that league standing/performance normally correlates with level of investment.

Look, just leave it can you? You're like a bad smell with your HAHA SEE I TOLD YOU HODGSON WAS SHIT routine.

Hodgson was shit but don't high five yourself too much on that one because until you try a manager you've no idea how they'll work out. You didn't want Dalglish.

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Look, just leave it can you? You're like a bad smell with your HAHA SEE I TOLD YOU HODGSON WAS SHIT routine.

Hodgson was shit but don't high five yourself too much on that one because until you try a manager you've no idea how they'll work out. You didn't want Dalglish.

When you cook something for the first time then you don't know how it'll turn out but if you cook with shit you're guaranteed it's gonna taste like shit.

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