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Dandy_Sephy

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I don't think people should be attributing too much of today to Kenny; for starters, he only got back in the country last night and also (as Roy correctly pointed out Friday) the players shouldn't have needed any motivation for an FA Cup tie at Old Trafford.

I've little doubt that Dalglish spending 10minutes with the players would have been more positive than the same time with Hodgson. Giving a couple of tactics before the game and at half time can make all the difference. Being up for a game doesn't mean you'll play well, especially after conceding a early goal and having a player sent off.

Only got to see the first half hour, but have to see every time I've seen Kelly (admittedly not that often) he's looked solid as anyone. Surely he should be starting at full back with Johnson on the wing?

Yep, he seemed to be doing well, never really under pressure and he dealt with any problem quickly

I think I could nutmeg Skrtyl hes and often liability.

That explains the good blocks he was making

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Jamin

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The usual bunch of trolling opposition fans in here today I see. As Ryan Babel would say: smh.

To echo what others have said I thought we played quite well, obviously the penalty was a joke, red-card was fair, and it'll be interesting to see how we'll play against Blackpool. The atmosphere should be excellent.

The biggest downer today for me wasn't that we lost but that we'll now lose Stevie for 3 games.

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Reynard

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I've little doubt that Dalglish spending 10minutes with the players would have been more positive than the same time with Hodgson. Giving a couple of tactics before the game and at half time can make all the difference. Being up for a game doesn't mean you'll play well, especially after conceding a early goal and having a player sent off.

It was definitely more than Dalglish just turning up and watching - we reverted our tactical approach to our previous system for the game. We weren't as rigid with the two lines of four and did a lot more pressing off the ball. How much of this was influenced by Dalglish or whether it was the players collectively reverting to a style that they were more comfortable with...

Starting team was also very agreeable; one which I personally question would've started if Hodgson was still around. Looking foward to the next couple of games.

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ras el hanout

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It was definitely more than Dalglish just turning up and watching - we reverted our tactical approach to our previous system for the game. We weren't as rigid with the two lines of four and did a lot more pressing off the ball. How much of this was influenced by Dalglish or whether it was the players collectively reverting to a style that they were more comfortable with...

Starting team was also very agreeable; one which I personally question would've started if Hodgson was still around. Looking foward to the next couple of games.

You do know we lost, right? We didn't win so what are you so gosh darned happy about? I mean that style we're comfortable with has won us absolutely nothing in the last four years. Why are you happy if we go back to that? Not that we have.

Let's face it, Man U didn't really try yesterday, not like the last game there where they battered us, but they didn't have to, the penalty changed the game. Who knows what would have happened if it were not for that? You don't know, I don't know so we're going to have to wait for the next game.

Torres looked as bad as he has all season, that was supposed to be Hodgson's fault because he didn't know how to use him. If anything torres looked even worse yesterday.

It's just stupid. If we win the next two away games then declare a change but to declare everything rosey after a defeat where we didn't have their keeper make a save of note, well, it's not surprising coming from you but it's a bit disrespectful to the previous manager.

Let's see if Tomkins has made some charts about how Aurelio gave the ball away more than Konchesky ever did. About how Reina still was a bit ropey with his distribution. Of course not, he'll focus on the positives in this one, because it's true, you're mental enough you can see what you want when you watch a game.

To reiterate though, I feel better with Dalglish in charge but yesterday was no indication of anything.

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I doubt anyone could disagree that it was more encouraging against the context of the performances against Wolves and Blackburn.

Best to start positive I feel :)

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ras el hanout

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I doubt anyone could disagree that it was more encouraging against the context of the performances against Wolves and Blackburn.

Best to start positive I feel :)

Of course. Just irks me, Reynard stretching to find postives when a week ago he was doing all he could to find negatives.

Had we won yesterday then fair enough.

After the next few games we can rejoice.

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Chewylegs

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I don't know about fine. He did make a save though.

:rolleyes: For fucksake, do you just disagree for the sake of it?! It was a good free kick and a fine save.

By the way, who says Man U didn't really try? Perhaps they weren't playing very well themselves. I hate this whole thing about 'not being out of first/second/third gear' thing as well. Perhaps when a team is playing a struggling side, they simply aren't playing to the best of their ability as well. It seems in the media, if ya playing someone shit and winning, you are simply not bothering to play to your real standard.

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ras el hanout

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:rolleyes: For fucksake, do you just disagree for the sake of it?! It was a good free kick and a fine save.

By the way, who says Man U didn't really try? Perhaps they weren't playing very well themselves. I hate this whole thing about 'not being out of first/second/third gear' thing as well. Perhaps when a team is playing a struggling side, they simply aren't playing to the best of their ability as well. It seems in the media, if ya playing someone shit and winning, you are simply not bothering to play to your real standard.

It was an okay free kick and an okay save. I'm just honest, sorry if that rankles. DO YOU disagree for the sake of it?

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Chewylegs

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It was an okay free kick and an okay save. I'm just honest, sorry if that rankles. DO YOU disagree for the sake of it?

:lol: recently you have been a lot easier to handle in this thread.

Clarke's appointment is a good one I reckon. Fingers crossed he can bring a fresh change to the current squad.

Perhaps we need a new defensive coach as well! (From the way they have been playing all season)

Its time to start bringing in some quality though, lets not wait till the end of the month, lets get signing a striker and winger now. Good, young, hungry players that want to prove themselves.

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ras el hanout

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Right, and that's Sammy's fault?

Come on ramone, you're the one always in here calling people on unfounded internet rumours with no hard evidence, now you're doing exactly the same.

But yeah, get Sammy out.

It's not rumours is it, we've been bad for the last two seasons and he's been there. He was there when it was collapsing around Benitez. He was there when it collapsed around Hodgson. Even if he was actually doing something to prevent this it would still be better if he went. A new start for everybody, the last coaches/managers didn't work, let's not keep half of them.

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But again, how can you possibly put that down to Sammy?

He was also part of Allardyce's Bolton staff, when the team were playing well above thier level, and helped Liverpool finish 2nd in his first season as assistant manager.

I'll admit, he has a face you want to slap, but I don't think any of us are in a position to judge his coaching credentials.

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But again, how can you possibly put that down to Sammy?

He was also part of Allardyce's Bolton staff, when the team were playing well above thier level, and helped Liverpool finish 2nd in his first season as assistant manager.

I'll admit, he has a face you want to slap, but I don't think any of us are in a position to judge his coaching credentials.

The Bolton opus didn't really end well for anyone.

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ras el hanout

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But again, how can you possibly put that down to Sammy?

He was also part of Allardyce's Bolton staff, when the team were playing well above thier level, and helped Liverpool finish 2nd in his first season as assistant manager.

I'll admit, he has a face you want to slap, but I don't think any of us are in a position to judge his coaching credentials.

I think we are in a position to judge based on the last two seasons actually. By what's happened on the pitch. I mean the one constant of the last two seasons is Sammy Lee. That for me is enough of a reason to get rid of him.

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Reynard

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Just a word about this overblown positivity I'm supposed to be exhibiting, ramone - I said that the team looked more positive in a tactical fashion and outlined why. I was hardly desperately scrabbling around for positives.

I agree that we're suddenly not going to start sweeping all aside, but I certainly believe our results are going to improve. Time will tell.

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