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bradigor

bradigor

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mid table for us this season... :( it feels like the darkest days of the Roy Evans era

When we played some terrific football? But just defended badly?

Finishing pretty much in the European Cup places every season as they are now?

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and won only one league cup. but to be fair we probably did have a better spine back then then we do now

Not saying we were brilliant, we lacked the killer instinct and winning mentality but we were great going forward.

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tenrou

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Fair enough there were chances that we should have taken and our strikers have to take the blame for that but the defending is absolutely shambolic and has been all season, Hodgson has to take the blame for that and I've yet to see a substitution or tactical change made by him that has improved a performance. Skittle has been dreadful all season and Konchesky doesn't seem to have a clue.

While not everything has been under his control he has to be blamed for not even trying to fix the problems we have tactically and defensively.

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Oh Danny Boy

Oh Danny Boy

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The one team I didn't want us to lose against this season and we do it in dismal fashion. I don't think I'm going to watch another game until Hodgson is gone.

i don't want any knee jerk reactions. I'd love O'Neil as manager, but i've been wanting that since Houllier left, however Hodgson is our manager and deserves a chance. The squad he has inherited to be fiar is a sad reflection of the one which should have won the prem a couple of seasons back, no mash, no alonso, an aging carra and gerrrad and an out of sorts torres. I would like him to be given some backing in the next couple of transfer windows so he can start to shape the squad, only then can we start to judge

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Dandy_Sephy

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And Hodgson inherited Mascherano and sold him for less than what we paid.

I'll hear and say alot about Hodgson - crappy tactics, lack of visable passion etc

However, you can't really blame him for Mach going, that was orchestrated almost entirely by the player and had been building for months before Hodgson had even arrived

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tenrou

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Part of me thinks he should get the season but that's only out of courtesy. The team just looks fed up, Torres needs a kick up the arse and it doesn't look like Roy is going to do it. There are good youngsters lining the fringe but he seems to insist on players that have been playing very poorly I'm singling out Skittle and Konchesky here because they have been woeful. He seems to think the best way to play away games is to camp in the box, that's a horrible attitude and we're Liverpool FC FFS if you're going to lose then go down fighting not with a pathetic wimper.

Hodgson wont play the football we want to see at the club and that's all there is to it.

I'm going to edit this because I say the football we want to see but it may only be me that would rather see us lose giving it a bash that by trying to scrape draws by standing off players and packing the box.

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Dandy_Sephy

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There are good youngsters lining the fringe

Who have been used, even if its just in cup games. Spearing is out with a broken ankle, Kelly signed a new contract recently and usually makes the bench plus like Spearing os often used in cup games

It's a partially valid criticism as he could use them more, but on the other hand there are more experienced people available.

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I'll hear and say alot about Hodgson - crappy tactics, lack of visable passion etc

However, you can't really blame him for Mach going, that was orchestrated almost entirely by the player and had been building for months before Hodgson had even arrived

What a strange criticism. I doubt it had much to do with Hodgson.

I know Mascher wanted out but when Inter and Barca were in for him, rather than start a potential bidding war he decides to tell one to fuck off and let time run out before flogging him when he obviously wasn't going to play any more.

And then replace him with Poulsen.

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Gabe

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It seems that Roy just doesn't know how to play away from home; 2 wins in 27 away games, isn't it (including Fulham, obvioulsy)? And whilst our away form under Rafa last season was also terrible, if nothing else it shows that Roy isn't able to affect any change, and that's concerning.

Still, on paper if you look at the next 5 games - Fulham (h), Blackpool (a), Wolves (h), Bolton (h) and Blackburn (a) - you'd think we could realistically get 11+ points and take some form into the FA Cup tie at Man U and then the Merseyside derby. Plus we may get some quality in the transfer window to replace/strengthen the team (seems Johnson wants out according to one rag this morning).

Strangely, whilst this season we've been largely awful I still don't think it's all doom and gloom - mainly because everybody seems to be taking points from each other.

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Still, on paper if you look at the next 5 games - Fulham (h), Blackpool (a), Wolves (h), Bolton (h) and Blackburn (a) - you'd think we could realistically get 11+ points and take some form into the FA Cup tie at Man U and then the Merseyside derby.

I think 11 points from those games is pretty darned optimistic. With the form we've been in the Blackpool, Bolton and Blackburn games are by no means guaranteed wins. We really need to take the game to these teams though and push for the win.

I'd expect 3 points from Fulham and Wolves at home though.

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It looks like it says 'GENERAL' to me. It being legit would explain a lot - I don't see anything on there about the importance of winning the second ball. -_- When will we learn, in that regard? It happened against Tottenham, and it happened again against Newcastle. When jumping with Crouch or Carrol, you're going to lose the aerial battle the vast majority of the time. Why, then, are we not just conceding possession of the ball when defending long passes outside our area, and instead concentrating on winning the second ball? Our current tactics empower those types of attacks because committing to winning the long ball but failing, leaves massive gaps and destroys our shape. And a poor defensive shape + space = chaos.

I would have liked to see the page concerning defending.

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SnoopZakaDaVe

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Liverpool: Jones, Kelly, Aurelio, Skrtel, Wilson, Poulsen, Shelvey, Jovanovic, Cole, Babel, Eccleston.

Subs: Hansen, Johnson, Kyrgiakos, Pacheco, Torres, Kuyt, Meireles

good to see a start for ecclestone, i thought torres was meant to be starting?

hopefully a good result tonight! on in a lil while on channel 5, 8:05 kick off i think

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