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I'm from Acton, London. I knew about the Taffy Southport, but not the Scouse one! lol

Well, now you do!

yea there is Southport in Merseyside ( should really be lancashire tho )

Having spent most of my life there, I wouldn't agree - I think S'port shares more in common with its southern areas than its northern ones.

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You sure about that? I'm sure Benitez mentioned him by name and that was how the whole thing kicked off, though I admit I could be wrong. And then there was the Gerrard interview before the T&T friendly saying what a great addition to the side he'd be etc.

The first time there was a public confirmation of the Barry offer was via O'Neill - fair enough, he was responding to a leaked story, but he didn't have to.

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Hello there!

Working hard, but the project's finished (starting a new one now though).

I dunno, reading anything Liverpool-forum-related beats me down, post-G&H takeover.

Unless I want to debate shit like the Barry saga or the situation with the Americans, there's not a whole lot else being discussed (see also: my meagre post-count on RAWK).

I do lurk a lot, though and have paid this thread a visit at least once a day.

Still looking forward to tomorrow with the excitement/expectation of a five year old on Christmas morning. ^_^

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Yeah, I'm from the southern part (Birkdale, technically not S'port).

I'd say that once you go north, through S'port and on to places like Marshside, Churchtown and Tarleton, it becomes a lot more like Lancashire.

There's a lot of residents (snobs!) in S'port who don't accept that it is (even technically) part of Merseyside and some even campaign for it to be reintegrated into Lancashire.

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There's a lot of residents (snobs!) in S'port who don't accept that it is (even technically) part of Merseyside and some even campaign for it to be reintegrated into Lancashire.

Damn right. I worked at Southport District General for a year and usually found the toffs to be the most arrogant and rude.

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Very good - shouldn't have got to that stage to begin with, however.

Now I'm working with 'em I have an insight - the Liverpool deal is with Carlsberg in Denmark and actually bog-all to do with Carlsberg UK, so I doubt the two sides of the business had any idea what the other might be up to. It's confusing enough trying to talk to them about what signs they want there, never mind anything else.

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I read about Rafael again talking as a abay "oh the barry probelm is nothing to do with me I did not do it. but we now have problem on left. STOP MAKING EXCUSES YOU ARE A BAD MANAGER. Also I would sell Lucas Leiva because we do not need him and he had not looked good. Johnson of mancity is great player for the fiture.

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I read about Rafael again talking as a abay "oh the barry probelm is nothing to do with me I did not do it. but we now have problem on left. STOP MAKING EXCUSES YOU ARE A BAD MANAGER. Also I would sell Lucas Leiva because we do not need him and he had not looked good. Johnson of mancity is great player for the fiture.

Just do one you trolling berk.

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He's an ex Everton player though.

He will know the city. I do not live in liverpool and I do not hate the everton as much. I hate che$sea and manu. Slaven Bilic can make a team of not so good players be better... rafael can make a team of good players be worse. Is crotian players more better than englamd. No but Slaven can make his players be better with making the players play better with confidents.

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He will know the city. I do not live in liverpool and I do not hate the everton as much. I hate che$sea and manu. Slaven Bilic can make a team of not so good players be better... rafael can make a team of good players be worse. Is crotian players more better than englamd. No but Slaven can make his players be better with making the players play better with confidents.

I don't disagree Bilic looks like a good manager and once again he was alledgedly a boyhood red but the fact he played for Everton for numerous years is an issue. Not that I want to replace Benitez or anything. <_<

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Benitez said: "Competition for places must improve, we have several away or injured. We need more players to put pressure on players.

"I do not like to talk about specific players, but clearly we were not the best. We were not good in midfield or the defence.

"If you have more players competing for positions in the team things are better. We need more players, but for the moment we must work to make the ones we have got better players."

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Competition for places must improve. That is true but not yet for Rafael has competition for places mean anything he has his favorite players and a player could play and be good but not play the next game. It is true he must work to make the ones he has got better but he is bad at this and is better at make the ones we have got worse

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The fall-out from Liverpool's arduous pursuit of Gareth Barry continued yesterday when Xabi Alonso asked to leave Anfield and Rafael Benítez revealed evidence of his strained relationship with the club's chief executive, Rick Parry.

Alonso, a recent transfer target for Juventus and Arsenal, wants to be sold having become disillusioned with the manager's attempts to finance the Barry deal by off-loading the Spain international amid concerns that his first team chances will be reduced this season. The 26-year-old has not submitted a transfer request, but has asked the club to renew its efforts to sell him in the coming weeks - a stance that will alert the Arsenal manager, Arsène Wenger.

Arsenal are the only club to have made an official inquiry about Alonso since his proposed transfer to Juventus collapsed over Liverpool's £18m valuation. They too, however, share the Italians' view that Liverpool's price-tag is excessive and are only prepared to pay around £12m for the playmaker who moved to Anfield from Real Sociedad for £10.5m in 2004. Without a compromise from either party Alonso will be left in limbo this season but Benítez remains intent on signing Barry, who is also valued at £18m by Aston Villa, and is prepared to sell his compatriot and/or Jermaine Pennant and Andriy Voronin to fund the transfer of his own accord.

Benítez was refused a short-term loan to complete the Barry transfer last week by the Liverpool owners, Tom Hicks and George Gillett, with Parry, while denying the Americans had not backed their manager's judgement, issuing a statement that confirmed Villa's asking price was "too high". The Liverpool manager has since had e-mail conversations with the Americans and has been told money is available for other transfers. But yesterday he dismissed suggestions he had driven up Barry's price by publicly revealing Liverpool's interest before the end of last season and that the failure to sell Alonso had changed the club's transfer policy. In doing so, he indicated the Liverpool chief executive was accountable for the Barry saga now entering its fourth month.

"I get blamed for everything, for global warming to high petrol prices," said Benítez. "But in this case [barry] I want to be very clear. Since I talked to Martin O'Neill about the situation in April, I have not talked to anyone at Aston Villa. All the talks have been between our chief executive Rick Parry, the owner and the chief executive of Aston Villa. And those talks have all been pretty good.

"If anyone wants to talk about Barry in the future they must talk with the owner, Rick Parry or the chief executive of Aston Villa. I was not involved in the talks about Barry, I was not involved in the talks about Alonso and Arsenal. If you want to talk about these players you must talk to the chief executive of our club who was handling the discussions. If you want to talk about football, then you talk with me."

The Liverpool manager remains confident of a resolution before the close of the transfer window, however. "We continue working and we have time. I have some players in mind," he added.

Welcome to the new season!

<_<

This is just going to keep happening until we get rid of the Americans. And there's hardly been any rumours or anything about them going over the summer :(

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How is it the American's fault? Because they wouldn't pay a ridiculous price for Gareth Barry? A player most fans didn't want, especially at the expense of Alonso. Rafa talks a good game. "It wasn't me, Guv!" But it's clear Rafa wanted Alonso to leave and Barry to arrive, these are football matters. You don't expect Rafa to conduct the negotiations. I lose more and more respect for Rafa everytime he throws one of his strops. Don't worry about the players you want, Rafa, try instead to get the players you've already bought to perform better first. I don't blame Alonso for wanting to leave. And again, so much for this myth about the players loving Rafa. They're frightened of him because he's a grown man who acts like a petulant child.

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