Jump to content
IGNORED

Liverpool Football Club

Stilly

By Stilly
in Sport

 Share

Recommended Posts

Guest

Guest

Posted
Posted

TBH I agree totally that his timing is crap: RE day after Hillsbrough. Disgraceful.

However it's almost as if the team has got used to this by now. I am of the impression that, actually, it might help them. They ignore all this and focus on the game.

I'd say it affected them a couple of months back but its been going on so long it just washed over them. I think Rafa has got them sorted.

Now if all this is going on and no one is now talking about performances/Lpool underperforming - that's the real stress on the team cos that's their jobs. That has all gone now.

In addition with Chelsea having a lot more in the way of problems, we should have a big advantage going into the game. The are questioning the manager, the results, the performances - just about the whole lot. Plus there's mass speculation regarding Rikarrd.

Would the Chelsea team be that upset losing this game? Because it would cost Grant his job...ohhhh controversial!

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Chewylegs

Chewylegs

Posted
Posted
Does it though? I don't understand. If Parry had done the decent thing and resigned would it matter when it happened?

When do you want him to do it? After the season when it's too late? Because we'll always have had/be having a big game coming up, hopefully culminating in Moscow.

If this had happened and there was nothing in the paper about it then we wouldn't have cared, and that's the point really.

So if this was Rafa's decision, which it very well could be, how would you feel about that? It's entirely possible that Rafa has asked Hicks to get rid on Parry and understanbly asked Hicks not say it that way.

Yes it fucking does. For a start HE CAN'T make him resign. Why can't you understand that? Parry may well have resigned IF the whole board wanted him to go. Its one man that wants him out though. Again, if you were at work and you were hated by one man would you pack up and leave because of him? No, of course you fucking wouldn't! If everyone wanted you out then you would be more likely to consider going.

I don't want him to do it just to benefit him. That's what he is doing. Its obvious, its come completely out of the blue. Why they hell has waited this long to ask him to resign if it wasn't just to get at Gillett. Also, yes i'd rather it happened after the season ended. No it wouldn't be too late by then.

Again, it ain't up to Rafa to decide these things. The idea that the manager has asked one of the owners to get rid of an employee is proposterous. In an ideal world i'd rather not have Hicks or Parry there but at this moment in time that won't happen so I'd rather see the back of Hicks.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
ras el hanout

ras el hanout

Posted
Posted
:lol: How the hell would you feel if a colleague at work mentioned to you that "oh by the way they want to sack you, there's a letter on your desk about it" ? ? ? He isn't able to make Parry resign, only the board can. He is part of the board, not the whole fucking board. He should do things in the right way, talk about it in the board meeting.

It doesn't matter what you think about Parry, the way Hicks is going about things is awful. He's dragging the club through the press with no consideration for anyone but himself. I'll be looking forward to May 27th when his ability to buy out Gillett ceases to exist and someone better for the club can possibly come in. Unfortunately by then Liverpool FC club could well be a laughing stock and not lifting the Cup due to all this mess.

Talk about with the people he isn't talking to? That's unlikely to work.

You keep ignoring my question. How would you feel if this was Rafa's decision?

When do you think he should have done it? The answer is of course a long time ago, that didn't happen so when would be a good time? Not next week, it's the Chelsea game, and then the return, and then we'll have the final to prepare for so that would be a bad time.

And let's not pull the excuse of this affecting the team's peformance out again. The team's been playing great with even more turmoil around the club, the two owners have had a massive public fight for goodness sake! Then there was DIC back in and then out and then in. This was only used as an excuse for the Rafa fucking around for half a season. Now he's got his head on straight, he seems to get on with Hicks and thing have improved. You're all making big deals out of things which aren't big deals. It's Parry, somebody we all wanted out.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
ras el hanout

ras el hanout

Posted
Posted
Yes it fucking does. For a start HE CAN'T make him resign. Why can't you understand that? Parry may well have resigned IF the whole board wanted him to go. Its one man that wants him out though. Again, if you were at work and you were hated by one man would you pack up and leave because of him? No, of course you fucking wouldn't! If everyone wanted you out then you would be more likely to consider going.

I don't want him to do it just to benefit him. That's what he is doing. Its obvious, its come completely out of the blue. Why they hell has waited this long to ask him to resign if it wasn't just to get at Gillett. Also, yes i'd rather it happened after the season ended. No it wouldn't be too late by then.

Again, it ain't up to Rafa to decide these things. The idea that the manager has asked one of the owners to get rid of an employee is proposterous. In an ideal world i'd rather not have Hicks or Parry there but at this moment in time that won't happen so I'd rather see the back of Hicks.

Yeah, if one of the owners wanted me to go, and the manager wanted me to go and the fans wanted me to go and the other owner only didn't want me to go to spite the other owner, then yeah, I would go. I'd feel a bit of a dick being a pawn in a power struggle.

It's pretty much a fact that Rafa wants Parry out. You don't think Hicks should listen to what Rafa wants? Okay. Fair enough.

And you'd rather see the back of Hicks? Well, good luck with that, whinging about it on the in internet should do the trick.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Chewylegs

Chewylegs

Posted
Posted

Its an organisation, he has to talk to the people he isn't talking to about club matters. The bloke is fucking 60 odd years old, its pathetic.

If he goes at all then it should have been at the end of the season or as you said, a long time ago.

It isn't Rafa's decision though and yes I would think its disgraceful anyway.

Me ignoring your questions, what about you ignoring mine! :lol:

Link to comment
Share on other sites
ras el hanout

ras el hanout

Posted
Posted
Its an organisation, he has to talk to the people he isn't talking to about club matters. The bloke is fucking 60 odd years old, its pathetic.

If he goes at all then it should have been at the end of the season or as you said, a long time ago.

It isn't Rafa's decision though and yes I would think its disgraceful anyway.

Me ignoring your questions, what about you ignoring mine! :lol:

But at the end of the season it will be too late to deal with the summer transfers. It would be better for the club to get somebody in now, reagardless of if it'd be better for the club to get rid of Hicks all together. I mean you seem to be happy that something that could be done to benefit the club isn't being done in the hope that it'll make something that obviously won't be done be done, if you catch my drift.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Chewylegs

Chewylegs

Posted
Posted

If you want rid of Parry go do the fucking same then!

jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez!

I know Parry going will be to the benefit of the club. Its not about that though, its about Hicks and his attempted manipulation of the fans by sticking it all in the papers/media. For a person who is so successful you would have thought he would have a bit more dignity when it comes to doing his business.

The best thing would have been for us to be told that Parry had resigned, end of. Instead he told the press before telling the person that he wants him to resign even though he knew he didn't have the backing of the other board members.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
ras el hanout

ras el hanout

Posted
Posted
If you want rid of Parry go do the fucking same then!

jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez!

I know Parry going will be to the benefit of the club. Its not about that though, its about Hicks and his attempted manipulation of the fans by sticking it all in the papers/media. For a person who is so successful you would have thought he would have a bit more dignity when it comes to doing his business.

The best thing would have been for us to be told that Parry had resigned, end of. Instead he told the press before telling the person that he wants him to resign even though he knew he didn't have the backing of the other board members.

Perhaps his hands were tied? Perhaps, due to the boardroom shennanigans it was literally impossible to get him to leave the proper way, so he tried forcing the issue. Unsuccessfully, but only because the other half of the board are now using this issue as a stick, even though, by your own admission, it's not to the benefit of the club. I really think the other half of the board should be getting the stick here. Fine, argue away, but don't infere in important footballing matters, you know?

The only reason I want Parry out is because Dogsout explained to me how shitty he is. I'm certainly not concerned enough to protest the matter. I was just wondering what you guys were getting so heat up about.

I certainly do think this thing has more chance of effecting Rafa's performance than any amount of debt the club has taken on, you know what I'm saying?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Chewylegs

Chewylegs

Posted
Posted

As long as the club is moving in the right direction, not constantly in the media with pathetic, childish tit for tat games and we don't find the owners have been chatting to coach's that are no where near the standard we already have behind everyones back then fair enough.

I can't see that happening though while we have Hicks and Gillett together in charge.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
ras el hanout

ras el hanout

Posted
Posted
As long as the club is moving in the right direction, not constantly in the media with pathetic, childish tit for tat games and we don't find the owners have been chatting to coach's that are no where near the standard we already have behind everyones back then fair enough.

I can't see that happening though while we have Hicks and Gillett together in charge.

I agree, that's why I reckon the best we can hope for, given his stance, is for Hicks to get total control. At least he seems more interested in the club than Gilette is.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
dogsout

dogsout

Posted
Posted
We probably got them despite Parry.

Correct. Rafa made contact with their clubs (slave master in Masch's case) himself, then followed that up by speaking directly to the players himself. Masch turned us down for Juventus but Rafa turned up at his house and persuaded him to join us. These actions are what sparked the massive row back in November when Rafa was making similar moves with targets and Hicks told him to "focus on coaching the team". This is why it makes no sense for Hicks to suddenly back track and want Parry out all of a sudden. When this went off in November he backed Parry and was close to pushing Rafa out. The only thing that has changed between now and then is it has become clear to him that Rafa has the people, whereas Parry does not. He has lost some of his own power and has aligned himself with one of the most powerful figures in this mess; Rafa.

In an ideal world Hicks would be the owner the club needs but in my opinion that isn't the case. I don't believe he has done anything with the best interests of the club at heart, and I have no faith in him doing so in the future. He's totally self serving and releasing all of this shit to the media this week of, all weeks, proves that in my opinion.

I get what you're saying, in that you're prepared to give him a go. And I do agree that some people are getting carried away (Oliver Kay being one of them) but he's lost the fans. He should do what's best for the club; sell up and fuck off. As should the entire board.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Commander Jameson

Commander Jameson

Posted
Posted
In an ideal world Hicks would be the owner the club needs but in my opinion that isn't the case. I don't believe he has done anything with the best interests of the club at heart, and I have no faith in him doing so in the future. He's totally self serving and releasing all of this shit to the media this week of, all weeks, proves that in my opinion.

Don't understand this bit. Hicks has a terrible track record of running sports clubs. Someone like Robert Kraft would be a far better owner.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
dogsout

dogsout

Posted
Posted

I meant ideally he'd be the right man for the job because he's already in power. That way we wouldn't have to sell and none of this would be happening. Of course that's ignoring all of his faults, which is why I said "in an ideal world". I should have said in an ideal world we'd have an owner we can trust that will do their best for the club, but we're stuck with Hicks, for the time being at least.

In my defence, I've been drinking all day. :D

Link to comment
Share on other sites
dogsout

dogsout

Posted
Posted
Can anyone please explain to me why Steven Gerrard still insists on wearing a vest under his football shirt IN APRIL?

Because he knows you're watching. Does the vest read 'for Nando's eyes only'? I think it's safe to say that he's joined every other Kopite in having a man crush on Torres.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
DeNeo

DeNeo

Posted
Posted
Benitez confirmed that his plans for next season include the arrival of one first-team squad member and two young reserves, although the likelihood is the signings will not rely on any major funding from the embattled Anfield board.

“We are working on trying to improve the squad for next season,” said Benitez. “We have some movements for next season, so we will continue trying to do the same.

“At least we are trying to go forward. We have had meetings with the scouting department, we talk about targets and they travel all around the world talking with players and agents. We are trying to do our job.

“We were this morning progressing in some issues and we will do the same. We have some signings for the next season done. They are senior players for the first team and young players for the first team and reserve team. Two of them are really close, young players, and one senior player is done. He talks good English, but is not English.

“You need to look for Bosman players. Sometimes you need to do it quickly and go for cheap players. We were doing this movement. Is the new signing a Bosman? Could be a free transfer, could be a cheap signing.”

Flamini?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. Use of this website is subject to our Privacy Policy, Terms of Use, and Guidelines.

  I accept