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feltmonkey

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great rescue job from Daley Blind, but United continue to be sort of frustrating and worrying to watch. we play neat passing possession football, but keep giving the ball away cheaply and seem unable to create much in the way of chances. we then end up having a lot more success as a long-ball team, with Fellaini to the fore. we have these two big-name strikers, but they don't run off the ball effectively, and each miss a simple chance. we appear to be set up to nullify Di Maria's pace. as a central player he's far too hit and miss with everything he does.

I thought the defence looked better generally - Jones and Rojo look a reasonable partnership. Shaw played well (before he got himself sent off.) Rooney and Blind were good in midfield.

edit - Bleeders, i sort of agree about Rooney, but maybe not for the same reasons. i think he's actually a very good midfielder, and he added a lot of drive and skill in that area in the second half. i just don't think RVP and Falcao work at all as a forward partnership. they're too similar, and too unwilling to run unselfishly. Rooney should be up there with one or the other of them in my opinion.

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Liamness

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Lucky to get a point, West Ham were the better side. I feel like Falcao is total dead weight in this side, yeah the service to him isn't the best, but when he does get played in he does very little with it. At any rate, playing with two up front and a diamond makes us too narrow, especially with two relatively slow strikers that don't really work the channels. I feel like the defence is relatively settled, finally, now Van Gaal has to turn his attention to getting the midfield playing with some fluency. For me that probably means one of Rooney, Van Persie and Falcao need to be dropped, and Herrera or Fellaini comes in.

Looking forward to watching Fletch captaining West Brom on Motd later. Must've made a good impression in training for that to happen so quickly.

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5R7

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im gonna dive in , rvp and falcao simply do not work. they both want to be in the same position, which is the single striker! they get in each others way!

we had januzi and di maraia on, both good wingers...playing in the middle! pointless!

he needs to go back to a 433/4231 job, and drop one of falcao or rvp!

what i really cant understand with these formations, is that for most of his career van gaal has actually played a variation of 433!?

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Liamness

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A 4-4-2 with wingers playing narrow (which I think is roughly what we were playing for most of the game) can work very well, it's pretty much City's standard formation at this point (though without an in-form Toure it starts to look a bit flimsy), and if you count Ronaldo as a striker you could also say Madrid play this way. Atletico also play this way but with the forwards sometimes dropping very deep and helping out in midfield, and I'd argue that our 2007/08 side was pretty similar to that too. However these all teams play with more mobile forwards than we do currently, which means they can share the job of stretching the play with the playmakers / wingers behind them. I could see it working with Wilson and one of Rooney / Van Persie with him, maybe. Then rotate Di Maria / Januzaj / Mata / Young in the positions behind:

Rooney Wilson

Di Maria Mata

Blind Herrera

Shaw Valencia

Rojo Jones

De Gea

Could work. I don't really care what the shape is as long as we drop Falcao and stop playing Rooney in midfield. It may well be his future but it's certainly not his fucking present.

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Liamness

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Herrera was disappointing when he came on, lots of good movement but did little with the ball when he received it. I don't think being kept on the bench for so long has helped, he has put in much better performances for us.

Jones injured again. I've said it before - he, Evans and Smalling can all go in the summer for me. McNair is already better than all of them.

It's quite telling that Rojo has come in, admittedly as an experienced international but not exactly someone clubs were clamouring to sign, and he's now basically the first name on the team sheet. He has basically been decent on the pitch and stayed fit, it really hasn't taken much. I think Smalling is a very tidy player, and will be an important squad / backup player for us for a while, unless he decides he's had enough of that (he seems to have many admirers at other clubs in the league). Jones has such potential if he can become less injury prone, and better on the ball. I think we will sign a central defender in the summer though, and someone will have to make way. I think it will probably be Evans, we look shaky whenever he plays, and he's 27 now so he's probably about as good as he's going to get.

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Bleeders

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Keown couldn't sound anymore disappointed if he tried. Nice to see the pundits completely ignore the fact that Davies shouldn't have been on the pitch as well.

Dreadful football again that improved when Falcao went off, Young came on and we played with width.

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DC Lemon

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Falcao and Di Maria are garbage at the moment. The other expensive summer signings are not an improvement over who they replaced. LVG's 'philosophy' is gash.

Apart from that, still in the cup and higher in the league than deserved. I look forward to things going right.

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