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Take this for what its worth

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They're too funny and obvious to be true surely...not sure I care though, I'll gladly read anything more like this, because even if it's pure lies, I'm convinced something like this has happened. More conjecture now..someone at work has a sister who plays for the Man City women's team and she apparently has contacts and talks to people at Man United, either Phil Neville or someone who knows him. Guy at work said that with Ferguson he'd treat his players as professionals, so he'd say 'I'm resting you for the cup game in two weeks and not playing you this weekend. Be ready', and he'd just leave them alone and trust them, whereas, in his words, 'Moyes is ocd', too hands on, controlling of every aspect of his players and they've not reacted well to it. He told me this a few months ago...
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Like I said, I wasn't pleased with the finishing - but despite the bullshit penalties, we didn't drop (well, not until the subs came on). I said I was pleased with how we held ourselves, our composure was decent, though Januzaj had a bit of a shocker (he was due one I suppose!).

Neville is usually on the ball, I can only assume he didn't see replays of it as it was utter nonsense. I imagine it'll be rescinded like the Kaboul red. I didn't see the Rafael handball from an angle that suggested it was really deliberate - it semeed his arm was just out there and it hit it, sadly. Penalty every day of the week of course.

We'll take a while to get back to what we're used to, but I'm taking the little victories as this time has been coming - maintaining that Moyes will come good as he gets a real handle on the side.

Neville did see the replays and even when it was clear that there was no contact after he commented along the lines of he has no sympathy when defenders dive into a tackle in the area. I really like Neville as a pundit because he isn't afraid to have an opinion, as I guess that incident proves. I didn't think the FA could overturn 2 yellows though?

Rafael's handball wasn't accidental, it was an instinctive little movement towards the ball, like Johnson's (which should have been given also). As for the second, well Phil Jones had no complaints and it's obvious why - Allen got to the ball first and Jones led with a forearm-smash into his back. Sturridge's dive wasn't a penalty, we all know that, but then Carrick did swipe his feet away moments later and had the audacity to scream at him for cheating, so swings and roundabouts.

Your reading of the performance seems to be at odds with everybody else though (here, pundits, players, manager) - everybody else seems to agree it was shocking. Not sure what you mean by 'held ourselves', either; outside of a couple of little spells in each half nobody seemed to be playing with the intensity you expect in this game. Maybe everybody was holding back a bit for the CL match, I don't know, but from the start we were given time and space with the ball and you allowed us to harry you and press when we didn't. I'd be interested to know how many times we stole possession of the toes of a United player in the match, because I reckon it'd be quite a lot.

I do think you'll beat Olympiakos and go through, though.

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Liverpool weren't that good for me. Both sides probably created equal chances throughout the match. A draw would have been fair.

What the fuck are you talking about mate? We had one fucking shot on target. At home. Our attacking play was devoid of any imagination and the defending was erratic at best.

We deserved to lose plain and simple.

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RVP should have scored that free header in the 6 yard box for starters.

Liverpool didn't really start to open us up until Vidic got sent off. Clumsy defending gave them control of the match.

Jones should have been in midfield to stop us being overran. Fellaini and Carrick are far too slow.

Welbeck/Valencia should have played because they both would have been better at tracking Allen, Henderson and attacking Flanagan,Johnson with their pace.

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And that sums up why Liverpool are a pack of cunts.

I take it, this was a response to the Sturridge dive? Just wonder what your thoughts were on the Rooney dive over Skrtl then? The one where he just jumps into the air just inside the box when Skrtl doesn't make any contact. Does Rooneys dive make United cunts then? One players actions doesn't represent everything you know.

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I think XYZ and ABC have been at the sherry trifle over the weekend, as Sith pretty much sums up what happened on Sunday.

Goodness knows what response the team will give the fans tomorrow night, I actually think it's a plus point that Juan Mata cannot play, as he will not "be forced" into playing him along with Rooney and RVP.

I hope Danny starts instead of Janujaz, as he is much better defensively if Olympiakos are attacking plus unlike Rooney or RVP has pace.

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RVP should have scored that free header in the 6 yard box for starters.

Liverpool didn't really start to open us up until Vidic got sent off. Clumsy defending gave them control of the match.

Jones should have been in midfield to stop us being overran. Fellaini and Carrick are far too slow.

Welbeck/Valencia should have played because they both would have been better at tracking Allen, Henderson and attacking Flanagan,Johnson with their pace.

Should, should, should.

I'm not being funny, but we were outclassed in every area of the pitch. Yeah, in theory it could have been a draw if we'd have been extremely lucky - that's the nature of football, but you're smoking some high grade shit if you actually believe we deserved anything from that match.

I suppose it's commendable in some way that you're so blinded by faith in United that you're eternally optimistic, but just have a look back through this season and you'll see it's littered with matches where we've under performed, been tactically outclassed and capitulated far too easily.

If you're happy with that, then fair enough, but a lot of us are getting increasingly worried that with Moyes at the helm things are going to continue on this downward spiral, without any light at the end of the tunnel.

We have some quality players, who, for whatever reason aren't at their game. We need to strengthen in a lot of key areas. And we need a manager with a strong personality who can get the best out of people. For me, Moyes isn't that man.

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I take it, this was a response to the Sturridge dive? Just wonder what your thoughts were on the Rooney dive over Skrtl then? The one where he just jumps into the air just inside the box when Skrtl doesn't make any contact. Does Rooneys dive make United cunts then? One players actions doesn't represent everything you know.

You expect Rooney just to run into Skrtel?

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You expect Rooney just to run into Skrtel?

Hahahaha, so he was just "anticipating contact" then ay? If he was just doing it to avoid colliding with Skrtl then why did he appeal for the foul? I guess that means Sturridge was just avoiding running into Vidics legs then too? The right answer is that they were both dives but you're more bothered about Sturridge because it went against you.

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Kagawa celebrates his 25th Birthday.

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I've just noticed the beautifully red Man United gif maker site has made a post exclusively of arsenal gifs against Bayern, has it got so bad that a website that is dedicated to the creation of Man United gifs has so little to pick out and celebrate that it has to look at other teams.

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You have to laugh at the reports from Moyes' press conference yesterday, with him saying his job is safe and he's going nowhere. Even if he knew that he was about to be sacked, which I highly doubt, there's no way he'd come out and say it. Interviewing tactics almost as bad as his footballing ones.

I wonder how we'll do tonight then? Another abject performance or will we turn it around? Who knows?

I think the problem will be that Moyes knowing that if Olympiacos score one, that'll leave us needing four, so he'll revert to type and go for an overly defensive setup. It'll be interesting to see what he does.

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I still think you'll win through. Perhaps the game at the weekend will galvanise the team plus, without Mata playing there's a chance you'll have a better shape and be a bit more solid in midfield. I think a lot will depend on whether RvP fancies getting involved in things and if you can keep things a hell of a lot more tight than you did on Sunday.

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Winning the game is likely, but it'll take a change in form to win the tie (based on results at OT this season).

Maybe this will finally be the spur that fires the team into performing like they clearly are individually able to.. then again it seems like that has been the case each week and still they don't step up.

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Winning the game is likely, but it'll take a change in form to win the tie (based on results at OT this season).

Maybe this will finally be the spur that fires the team into performing like they clearly are individually able to.. then again it seems like that has been the case each week and still they don't step up.

How many times have we thought that this season though?
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