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barkbat

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I think we can all agree that if Man City had been offered 5th place in the league with no trophies or European football after spending £300million they would have bitten your hand off. A truely awesome season.

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Fans hate you not because you are very successful, it's because you behave like cunts.

Every team has fans like that, but let's face it you wouldn't give a shit if you were the better team in the city. There's plenty of that sort among your ranks too, but I don't get all worked up about it. Why would I? I know they're just bitter. Most City fans are great, I loved their gallows humour when they were shit, and I guess I hope you don't all let the recent resurgence get to your heads. Wouldn't want you getting like some of our fans.

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bowser123

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Gotta love all the sell Berbatov stuff. We've all disagreed on his worth, but the thing is sell him and you've gone from Rooney/Ronaldo/Tevez/Berbatov to Rooney/crock pot midget/ some Mexican dude who has half a season of good form behind him/ loads of youngsters, none of whom look really like stepping up.

Who are these strikers the club will buy that'll replace Berbatov? Even if we do sign Benzema (no WC place for him, what a great move to Madrid was), we'll still need another proper name or be short.

Oh, yeah, silly me it was for reasons of value that Ferguson started the season knowing he was weak upfront, short in numbers and absolutely nothing else.

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Gotta love all the sell Berbatov stuff. We've all disagreed on his worth, but the thing is sell him and you've gone from Rooney/Ronaldo/Tevez/Berbatov to Rooney/crock pot midget/ some Mexican dude who has half a season of good form behind him/ loads of youngsters, none of whom look really like stepping up.

Who are these strikers the club will buy that'll replace Berbatov? Even if we do sign Benzema (no WC place for him, what a great move to Madrid was), we'll still need another proper name or be short.

Oh, yeah, silly me it was for reasons of value that Ferguson started the season knowing he was weak upfront, short in numbers and absolutely nothing else.

whats the point in having owen, macheda, welbeck, diouf costing around 6+ mil a year in wages we have signed the mexican as well - one of these youngsters have to make the grade. Berb still scored 12 goals if he had put in 3 or more goals we probably would have won more this season and he would be hailed a hero for being part of this squad, thats how close things are.

ps.I think not having owen for the most important part of the season fucked us more than anything striker wise this season, and we lost because of the injuries to defense that wont happen again next season.

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DC Lemon

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Forlan has shown that, for whatever reasons, it just doesn't work out for certain players at this club. Berbatov will be 30 next season and has to be considered a dead end now. The kind of chances he was missing over those last few matches were ridiculous. If he leaves he might very well go and do what Tevez did elsewhere, but as long as he stays at Old Trafford he'll be an expensive joke.

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I'm guessing its not up to him either way.

I'd like him to stay, but we need some more options to come in (not just young unknowns who will play a game or two and command a higher sell on a year or two down the line because they played for Manchester United).

I think we should only get rid of him if we can: a] recoup a significant portion of what we paid; b] and find one or two suitable proven replacements for Ronaldo/Tevez/Berbatov roles.

Also: 26 goals in 65 isn't a terrible return for a player in a system that doesn't suit him, missed a fair amount of the last season through injury and rarely plays 90 mins. Just saying is all.

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I'd like him to stay, but we need some more options to come in (not just young unknowns who will play a game or two and command a higher sell on a year or two down the line because they played for Manchester United).

I just can't see another (big name) striker coming in unless he leaves. It's easy to look at the situation we had last season but 2 of the 4 strikers could play on the wing and even Tevez could do a job out there. Rooney won't be moving out wide again anytime soon so you would have two top strikers fighting for one position in about 2/3rds of our games (assuming the rest are 4-3-3). I just don't think any top striker would buy into that. The caveat would be someone like Benzema who could play wide too but are there many other strikers who could do that?

My first choice signing would be a top draw holding midfielder and then maybe an attacking central midfielder as well. It looks like Valencia will miss pre-season and Anderson won't be back for a couple of months yet either. Shame Cleverly is injured as I expect he would have got some games pre-season.

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The caveat

My first choice signing would be a top draw holding midfielder and then maybe an attacking central midfielder as well.

Thanks Dr. Sid :D

Who do you have in mind?

Either way, I'm guessing that whoever we sign Fergie will want to do it pre-World Cup if he can, although Benzema's value can only really go down from now until the start of next season by the looks of it.

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fatbob

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Foster looks set to sign for Birmingham today for £6 milllion.

Its a shame he couldn't convert his potential to stake a claim on the gloves at OT, but he needs to be playing every game and he'll do very well for the Blue I think.

He probably should have moved last summer in retrospect, then he would likely have been going to the World Cup. He'll get another chance though.

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Gabzy

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He doesn't have to name anyone, but to say he's happy with the current squad who only won the Carling Cup this season is taking it a bit far. For what it's worth, I think we need at least two big signings (a top striker and Silva would do nicely).

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Fergie is hardly going to come out in the papers and say 'yes i have my eye on these players' is he? Even a hint that we might be interested will bump the price right up

Yeah, he said repeatedly last year that he wouldn't sign anyone before signing people.

Not big signings mind, but signings. He was also saying nothing was going on while he was trying to get Benzema.

To be honest I always assume what he says, the opposite is true these days... like the Glazers are ok and Wellbeck is going to the World Cup.

Saying that, we've moaned for years (especially this season) about the financial pit the we're in, so we can't be surprised come summer time that we aren't going to be able to compete in the transfer market.

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He doesn't have to name anyone, but to say he's happy with the current squad who only won the Carling Cup this season is taking it a bit far. For what it's worth, I think we need at least two big signings (a top striker and Silva would do nicely).

I think Milner is a target of his tbh, although City's interest will probably inflate his worth beyond what is sane.... not going to fall for that again.

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He doesn't have to name anyone, but to say he's happy with the current squad who only won the Carling Cup this season is taking it a bit far. For what it's worth, I think we need at least two big signings (a top striker and Silva would do nicely).

In an ideal world I'd agree. That said if the one signing was a top, top player I'd be happy with just the one. If it was a striker we could maybe go back to 4-4-2, though heavily reliant on Valenica and Nani creating everything. Villa would have been nice, I think 34 million for a guy you can guarantee will score is more than good value.

Where it a midfielder, our 4-3-3/ 4-5-1 could actually work if we somehow bought Lampard or Fabregas who not only get stuck in, but score and create. We'd ideally want a new defensive midfielder in there to allow Fletcher to do his thing more, but if we had a midfielder like the two mentioned we'd be so much better.

Back in reality though we won't sign any of the top players needed for striker or attacking midfield, it'll be another fudge signing, probably another fucking winger that's nowhere near the level required.

We knew what was needed years ago, yet nothing has been done.

I just love the new excuse for no action though. Lsat year it was value, this year it's squad numbers and restrictions. Funny that, I see Barcelona buying big this year and last. They're probably still the best team around, even if Inter beat them. They undeniably have the best midfield of anyone, yet look like buying Fabregas. They're blatently not short of goals, yet sign Villa and that other bloke last year for a combined 100 million or so. Funny that, they have no fear of buying quality to top up quality.

Ferguson used to do the same thing, and had no fear of breaking transfer records when doing so. I wonder why he no longer does?

The only thing that'll stop this malaise is the one thing that won't happen, a boycott. We won't know for certain until in a few months, but if the ground is still full then the fans will be jointly responsible, and will frankly deserve the consequences.

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AlwaysBeClosing

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Still can't see why we need to buy big - the last few haven't been fantastic and as a club we've never done it on a large scale before, always a signing here and there. Getting an Under-21 in Smalling and El Pokemonito is great for strength and future-proofing, we already have a £30m striker that Ferguson believes in as well as Rooney, Owen, Hargreaves and plenty more to rely upon for the future. I think a lot is riding on how Macheda comes around too as he'll be classed as a youth development.

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Still can't see why we need to buy big - the last few haven't been fantastic and as a club we've never done it on a large scale before, always a signing here and there. Getting an Under-21 in Smalling and El Pokemonito is great for strength and future-proofing, we already have a £30m striker that Ferguson believes in as well as Rooney, Owen, Hargreaves and plenty more to rely upon for the future. I think a lot is riding on how Macheda comes around too as he'll be classed as a youth development.

Does he though? Berbatov is not good enough to lead the line if Rooney isn't playing and if Rooney did get badly injured its pretty feasible we could do a Liverpool. Chelsea will have Essien back and are probably going to improve their squad this summer and if we dont do the same it will be hard to get the title back. We could probably get away with just signing a creative/goalscoring midfielder as long as Rooney stays fit but I wouldn't want to risk it.

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