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ckny

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The rumour seems to have started based solely on us selling Ronaldo to turn a profit last year and Rooney being the next most valuable player in the team would then have to be sold to turn a profit this year.

Exactly. Case closed.

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Na, you didn't, they did mind. Actually, wait, those things are full of quotes from Rooney aren't they?

Still, when he goes we'll have already signed Ribery, Villa, Silva, a Russian AND French goalie in January. Oh, and Sol Campbell. It was in the papers and everything. Shit, weren't we getting that Krajic too? I'm sure we've tried to swap Nani for Di Maria too.

I mean seriously, the Daily fucking Star and NotW.

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I reckon we should get rid of 95% of the squad, but Rooney's one I'd be holding onto. If he goes, we're truly fucked. Beyond him, I can only see Giggs, Valencia and Paddy who are worthy of the shirt at the moment.

It's a dire situation and I can only see us sinking lower from it.

If we do sell him, I won't be supporting any more. As hard as that may be, that's what I'll have to do.

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Why are football fans such pricks? Now the City fans throwing things at Evra.

I'd almost hope you levelled it now through Evra.

My brother sells City tickets and gets great pleasure when they ring up and he denies them sale due to them being banned.

Their records are detailed on file as to why they're banned as well, some interesting reads. Whoever threw that lighter at Evra will have to make sure they've got Sky sports if they want to watch future matches :lol:

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I reckon we should get rid of 95% of the squad, but Rooney's one I'd be holding onto. If he goes, we're truly fucked. Beyond him, I can only see Giggs, Valencia and Paddy who are worthy of the shirt at the moment.

It's a dire situation and I can only see us sinking lower from it.

If we do sell him, I won't be supporting any more. As hard as that may be, that's what I'll have to do.

Did you forget to add the spoiler in white text that said "Na, not really" or something?

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Nah, it's just passion. I've supprted them for over 30 years now and I still haven't learnt to control the emotions I go through on match day. It makes for some fun reading back through it though!

The bad thing about it all is though us that there's a lot of truth in what I say if you can get past the womanly hysteria!

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My brother sells City tickets and gets great pleasure when they ring up and he denies them sale due to them being banned.

Their records are detailed on file as to why they're banned as well, some interesting reads. Whoever threw that lighter at Evra will have to make sure they've got Sky sports if they want to watch future matches :hat:

What proof do you need to get tickets? Whats to stop your mate buying one for you, or buying one under a different name/address?

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You have to be a member to buy tickets (online/by phone at least). So all your details are on their database, and you can only buy tickets for people who are members too, or at least I have had to do it that way and United in the past. I assume other clubs do it in a similar way, and you get away tickets through your own club also.

I guess scalped ones are the only way through if you are banned, but they usually have your picture anyway if you are banned so you can be spotted on CCTV.

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More dept stuff on BBC - Up to £716 Million now

Is there a way out of this which doesn't involve selling all our players and Old Trafford other than looking for a Saudi to bail us out? I can't see a way out tbh.

I think the only commercial avenue the club can significantly increase is the revenue from the TV deal. Individual TV rights are massive, you can see what the likes of Barca and Madrid get and we'd surely be able to earn more. Problem is any change in TV deals needs a vote from all Premier League clubs, and there's only about 5 or 6 that'd be in favor of such a deal so in no way the majority needed. There's no way the majority of clubs could strike a TV deal better than the current collective one.

That'd leave the 6 clubs to leave the league, or threaten to leave and hope the league/ other clubs bend to their wishes. They may, as there's no way Sky would pay what they currently pay for a league devoid of the "big clubs". But likewise, who really wants a mixed, foreign super league or even worse a 6 team league. So the breakaway threat is probably an empty one.

The only way to rid the club of the parasites is to hit them where it hurts, in the pocket, via a boycott. It'd fuck the club, but let's face it that's happening anyway. At least it'd sort it quicker and they wouldn't make anymore out of it. It may just even dissuade other leeches from "buying" it again in the future. It'd get the proper fanbase back and the new owners a load more sympathetic to the needs of the FAN, not customer, for fear of what the fan can and will do.

Then again that idea was pie in the sky in 2005, it probably still is now. So they stay.

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I think the only commercial avenue the club can significantly increase is the revenue from the TV deal. Individual TV rights are massive, you can see what the likes of Barca and Madrid get and we'd surely be able to earn more. Problem is any change in TV deals needs a vote from all Premier League clubs, and there's only about 5 or 6 that'd be in favor of such a deal so in no way the majority needed. There's no way the majority of clubs could strike a TV deal better than the current collective one.

One way around it would be for the clubs that make the expensive TV deals to subsidise those that don't/can't. It wouldn't be an awful lot different to the system we have now really, how much of the money generated by TV sales (subscriptions/sponosrship etc.) are down to the big 4? I read a quote earlier that 50% of Ford's sponsorship deal was essentially due to Manchester United.

The only way to rid the club of the parasites is to hit them where it hurts, in the pocket, via a boycott. It'd fuck the club, but let's face it that's happening anyway. At least it'd sort it quicker and they wouldn't make anymore out of it. It may just even dissuade other leeches from "buying" it again in the future. It'd get the proper fanbase back and the new owners a load more sympathetic to the needs of the FAN, not customer, for fear of what the fan can and will do.

I agree that it would be the quickest way to get the Glazers out but I don't think it would fuck the club. They would sell before it got that bad (and some people are suggesting that the Bond issue was a good chance to meet potential buyers). The ideal would be a fan buyout but that ship sailed a long time ago, the club would just be too expensive now. In terms of a new owner coming in the current debts wouldn't be too much of a stumbling point, the club would cost a shade over £1billion regardless.

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My brother sells City tickets and gets great pleasure when they ring up and he denies them sale due to them being banned.

Their records are detailed on file as to why they're banned as well, some interesting reads. Whoever threw that lighter at Evra will have to make sure they've got Sky sports if they want to watch future matches :quote:

He patted the badge after that incident. My god he's amazing.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...utd/8472295.stm

Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has said defender John O'Shea is likely to miss the rest of the season because of a leg problem.

O'Shea, 28, has not played since the Republic of Ireland's World Cup play-off against France in November as his nation failed to reach the finals.

Ferguson told the Irish Independent: "He's got a terrible injury - the blood clot became all knotted.

"It's a long process to clear it up and he'll probably miss the season now."

Boh! :angry:

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Feel sorry for O'Shea, what is it with us and injured RB's! Brown has a cracking season then misses most of last, O'Shea takes his place does really well then misses most of this season. Rafael will probably play a blinder until the end of the season and then break his leg at the start of next season ;)

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Dusted

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A great blog by a clued up red on the financial rape of United by the Glazers:

Since 2005, the worse fears of supporters and commentators who opposed the takeover have been proved correct. Ticket prices have risen very significantly, pricing many traditional supporters out, transfer budgets have been reduced to levels way below what a club of United's size and profitability should be able to afford, the new owners have failed to communicate properly with supporters and finally, in January 2010 it became clear without any doubt (following the announcement of a £500m bond issue) that the Glazer family are using the club as their personal piggy bank.

http://andersred.blogspot.com/

LUHG

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Dusted

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Uh...good news? This is a much better rate for us, we can pay a lot of the loans off (obviously the crazy high interest ones will be a priority). Begs the question of why they didn't raise funds like this years ago, though. We should be profitable for the next seven years, at least.

Nope its not good news at all, exactly the opposite in fact. Its just like paying off one credit card with another FFS. Go and read a bit more from that link I posted previously. After selling our best player this year for £80M and getting £36M upfront on the shirt deal we still managed to JUST ABOUT BREAK EVEN!

No players incoming and our best on the way out, likely Vidic this summer, gotta pay those interest payments some way eh ?

There are none so blind as those who will not see.....

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Dusted

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Oh and from http://andersred.blogspot.com/

So the bonds have been priced. The annual interest bill will be £43.4m per annum, £307.7m over the life of the bonds. Red Football has raised £504m and will repay £514m in 2017.

This huge sum of money provides no benefit or gain to Manchester United. Not a penny will be spent on players, the ground or Carrington. Not a penny of this money will be applied to keeping ticket prices down or giving free tickets to local kids or subsidising better pies.

Every penny of this money will pay down old debt. This is new shiny bond debt for boring old bank debt.

This shiny debt lets the Glazer family suck cash and assets out of our club.

LUHG

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