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fatbob

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where's Do with his "agent tevez" shit now, eh?

Eh!?!

Twat.

Tevez is just trying to ingratiate himself further into to City's confidence for the 2nd leg and his spectacular own goal hattrick obviously.

Don't you know anything?

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Again a fucking stupid formation. As Phresh said, Rooney looked like himself when Owen came on the play along side him. Shame it took Fergie so long to fucking wake up and make a change. WTF was going on with the subs at the end? Brings Scholes on and then 2 mins later brings on Diouf. Why not do it at the same time instead of wasting time?

Anderson played no role in the match tonight. Neither defended nor attacked. Just fucked up near every pass he attempted. The defence was also a mess. My scrawny, knobbly kneed, chicken legs are sturdier than Utd's defence at the minute.

The problem appears to be that the 4-3-3 / 4-5-1 should be flexible but the players seem to be getting it constantly wrong. My guess would be that when the front wide players come inside the midfielders stay back to cover and vice versa. What seemed to happen is that when Valencia/Giggs went wide none of the midfielders got forward and then when they did come inside the midfielders got forward and they were tripping over each other. Anderson was on a game to nothing, he started playing the right passes poorly and then just stopped trying to do anything altogether. It doesn't help that Valencia really isn't suited to a 4-3-3, The full back can't overlap as much to create space for him and he is so hopelessly right-footed that defenders can make him cut inside and you've cut out most of the danger.

In the few years that our midfield have had to cover for Ronaldo's defensive deficiencies have we just forgot how to attack from midfield? It really is hopeless at times. Apart form the complete shambles for City's second goal I didn't think we were too bad in defense, Evans and Brown kept Tevez quiet and Rafael didn't actually do too badly against Bellemy.

Anyway, here is to a laboured win over Hull at the weekend :blink:

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AngryH

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Terrible refereeing against us yet again. We need to up the tempo though and have some more shots on goal.

For shame. For shame. I thought the ref did a derby game justice. Iffy penalty though. Although Rafael was sailing rather close to the wind anyway. Most of his decisions were ok. The richards dive made me cringe though.

Fergie, Fergie sign him up. :blink:

Gets sung every game now.

Why are football fans such pricks? Now the City fans throwing things at Evra.

I'd almost hope you levelled it now through Evra.

Aye. No excuse for that sort of shit. Whoever threw it will have been caught on CCTV and will be life banned from the ground.

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Even though we were rubbish, I thought it was an interesting game to watch perhaps even more so once City actually scored the second.

I just don't get why we keep playing 4-3-3, it worked with Ronaldo because he could play across the front 3 and so could Rooney, but now it just leaves Rooney isolated. When Owen came on and we switched to a more traditional 4-4-2 we looked dangerous again.

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V3zna

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Rooney is awesome though

What will the Glazers and Rooney himself do if the rumours of the Spanish giants being after him are true? There isn't many 'Galacticos' around these days but beyond Ribery, Rooney is one that might be available at some mental financial figure.

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If I was Man Utd I'd arrange a deal for Rooney to go to Barce for a couple of years, then come back when he has it out of his system. He'd be silly not to want to try it, but I'm also massively unconvinced it would suit him.

I'm not sure if there is a precedent for such a deal (as it is somewhere between an extended loan and a buy-back price) but it'd be a good idea.

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Finally, regards Tevez. After tonights shameful antics, he can go and fuck.

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Hang on. Wasn't Tevez the guy that previously said he'd not celebrate against United/he thought it was wrong.

Didn't he also say he wanted to be a Legend at West Ham?

Didn't he later say he wanted to be a Legend at Man Utd?

I'm glad we now see his true colours, I hope all you Tevez lovers are finally getting what he's like.

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Hang on. Wasn't Tevez the guy that previously said he'd not celebrate against United/he thought it was wrong.

Didn't he also say he wanted to be a Legend at West Ham?

Didn't he later say he wanted to be a Legend at Man Utd?

I'm glad we now see his true colours, I hope all you Tevez lovers are finally getting what he's like.

I think a crucial consideration with Tevez is that he is clearly as thick as shit.

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What will the Glazers and Rooney himself do if the rumours of the Spanish giants being after him are true? There isn't many 'Galacticos' around these days but beyond Ribery, Rooney is one that might be available at some mental financial figure.

Question. How do we think Rooney would handle learning the language over there. :lol:

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I think a crucial consideration with Tevez is that he is clearly as thick as shit.

He seemed to fool all the United fans!

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Apologies, far too easy a shot. :lol:

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He seemed to fool all the United fans!

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Apologies, far too easy a shot. :lol:

I think a crucial consid...

Even easier.

(Lots of them are though. More so than any other team, simply because of the glory hunters they've developed that understand nothing other than winning and big transfer fees. City and Chelsea will obviously be taking some of the thicker ones now)

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ckny

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Before we signed him:

This Tevez thing is pissing me off.

We don't need him, so let's let it lie. I don't want us to get entangled in anything this controversial.

Tevez was fucking shit, again. Absolutely clueless. Why is he always dropping so deep? That's what Carrick and Berbatov are for. He doesn't know what to do with the ball when he has it anyway. Ronaldo is too wide, Berbatov's arrival has seen him abandon his central position he often took last season, which was where he was most dangerous. We lack spark, invention and a bit of class in the final third.
Tevez +

Work rate

Tevez -

First touch, finishing, dribbling, passing, vision, decision making

This is starting to look deliberate by Sir Alex. Berbatov has been fantastic, Tevez has been dire.
Tevez's 'work rate' plaudits frustrate me. As phresh said, he's good at harrying defences but rarely does he track all the way back. When he does it's out of frustration and he gives away so many free kicks. Opta showed that Berbatov covered more ground than Tevez on average last season in the Champions League anyway.
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If I was Man Utd I'd arrange a deal for Rooney to go to Barce for a couple of years, then come back when he has it out of his system. He'd be silly not to want to try it, but I'm also massively unconvinced it would suit him.

I'm not sure if there is a precedent for such a deal (as it is somewhere between an extended loan and a buy-back price) but it'd be a good idea.

Huh? If you sign a player like Rooney, you do it because he's a great player and you expect him to do well for you. Not so that he can get the fanciful idea of playing for you out of his system while he miserably fails to adapt, only for his old club to take him back again on pre-arranged terms.

I doubt it will happen anyway because as far I know no one more reputable than The Sun has mentioned it (?), plus if it Real in for him I doubt whether he really misses playing second fiddle to Ronaldo that much. But if it came to it I think he could do very well in La Liga, particularly at Barca maybe inheriting Henry's position on the left. He'd have to learn not to go flying into tackles so much, but we all know how versatile he is from playing as part of that front three with Tevez and Ronaldo. His ability to run at defences and score goals would be just as relevant to his game whatever league he was playing in. But his movement, his ability to link up play and counter attack are his best attributes, in my opinion, and all would serve him very well in Spain.

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Huh? If you sign a player like Rooney, you do it because he's a great player and you expect him to do well for you. Not so that he can get the fanciful idea of playing for you out of his system while he miserably fails to adapt, only for his old club to take him back again on pre-arranged terms.

I'm sure he'd do well for them, but I'm unconvinced they'd be right for him. It'd be a great experience, but I don't think he'd be suited to it long-term.

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Where are you getting this insane notion that Rooney wants off from?

The same place you're getting the insane notion that Rooney would turn down a chance at playing for Barce for a massive chunk of money without even stopping to think about it?

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fatbob

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On another note, due to the lack of creativity in midfield and Joe Cole's contract negotiations stalling, worth a cheeky punt?!

I thought this too, but the wages are the sticking point, especially given our finances.

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That reads more like a list of 'most unreliable sources' :lol:

The rumour seems to have started based solely on us selling Ronaldo to turn a profit last year and Rooney being the next most valuable player in the team would then have to be sold to turn a profit this year.

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