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fatbob

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Zaki a fantastic one too.

He did only sign him on loan though. If he was still scoring goals then you could pretty much guarentee he would end up at Chelsea or somewhere and Wign would get nowt.

Realy hope Bruce can close that deal.

Keep an eye on his new signing Rodallega. :lol:

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bowser123

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Far too early to say who should be in, though I don't see what Moyes, O'Neill or especially Bruce would bring. Sure they've done well at their respective clubs, but managing Utd is on a totally different scale. Could they handle the pressure and expectations? Would they be able to handle big name players sulking at not getting a game? Will they crack up the moment it gets tough in the title race? Will they be strong enough to scare the owners into continued backing like with Ronaldo not being sold? Ronaldo won't be allowed anywhere else until Ferguson goes at the very earliest... can any of them managers be strong enough to make him stay?

Sure they have potential, but if the club promised the same amount of backing and support to the new manager there's practically nobody in world football that wouldn't take the job... I really don't think Cappello would say no if he was offered it (he's probably slightly too old now), Jose would jump at it, I think we'd get a different response to what Chelsea reportedly got if Anchelotti was offered. I think we could get somebody who has been there and done it all. I mean it's pointless listing more names of managers at CL clubs, but that's the sort we should be aiming for.

All that said, it's not the doomsday scenario some predict when ferguson does go. Besides the goalie, we have a core of young, hungry players who haven't slacked off after previous success. Evans will one day replace Ferdinand and be a legend; Rooney will stay put for ever; Carrick, Evra and Vidic are all young enough to go on as strong for at least another half decade. He'll leave the club in an exceptionally strong position and there really is no reason why success can't continue, it's not as if they have to build a club like Ferguson did.

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He'll leave the club in an exceptionally strong position and there really is no reason why success can't continue, it's not as if they have to build a club like Ferguson did.

Agreed, so we're looking for someone with similar tactical nouse and charisma then, rather than a team builder? Thats pretty much Morinho... as much as I wanted him to be England manager, i'm not sure about United. Using Chelsea as an example, I didn't realy like the way they player under him, successful or not. Haven't realy watched Inter oo much since he took over, what the play style like there these days?

Who would be your choice?

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I want Mourinho with Keane as his right-hand man (and I mean right-hand man in the gansta sense as well as coach). Brucie is coming on great, but this season taught me that we need a character who can continue to make mincemeat out of the likes of Benitez off the pitch as well. Bruce is a nice guy, probably too nice for his own good. The media goes on about Mourinho's style of play, but I'm not complaining about all these 1-0s at the moment. More to the point, if he doesn't go to Old Trafford, he'll go to a rival. He's made it clear he wants to come back to the Premiership and he won't be coming back to finish second.

That's now, though. Things will no doubt be completely different by the time Sir Alex finally does resign, with promising young managers coming through - including Fergie Jr who is on course for back to back promotions with Peterborough this season. Mourinho might be old news by then, especially if there's a favourable outcome against Inter in a couple of weeks.

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Agreed, so we're looking for someone with similar tactical nouse and charisma then, rather than a team builder? Thats pretty much Morinho... as much as I wanted him to be England manager, i'm not sure about United. Using Chelsea as an example, I didn't realy like the way they player under him, successful or not. Haven't realy watched Inter oo much since he took over, what the play style like there these days?

Who would be your choice?

Rafa :lol:

Nah. I think him and Wenger are the only two that might say no. Actually, I'm convinced Wenger would say no, he's got his own little project of trying to prove he's the worlds greatest by spending nothing and making do with what he has. Unless Arsenal really do have no money, then he's working miracles and I'm doubly convinced he wouldn't leave. He's again perhaps too old as well, not that age is a barrier as such, it's just I feel the drive Ferguson and Bobby robson have is very unique and I really wouldn't want to be changing manager after 3 or 4 years because the new guy has retired.

Rafa (though in no way would I want him- his Rafalution is going too swimmingly for that) I think genuinely likes the club and deeply appreciates the fans to do the dirty. He was perhaps slightly silly not realising why we were reluctant to sell Heinze, but if push came to shove I think he'd say no. THAT SAID, if he doesn't get the contract at Scouse over transfer guff, leaves, gets sacked at Madrid after 3 months like the rest of them would he come in to prove a point? I'm not sure he would, but who knows. He definitely wouldn't go straight from Anfield to OT though.

I think Jose gets a load of stick and it's perhaps unjustified. He built a team that had Robben, Duff and J Cole all bombing on at times and made Drogba look invincible. Drogba aint looked half the player since Jose left. They most definitely were conservative, but when needed, he went mental and took defenders off and played something like 2-5-3... that Spurs game they were losing and stormed back for example. He could be attacking when needed and brilliant too.

Would he need to be defensive at Utd? I don't think he would, at Chelsea he had to work from the ground up and did it sensibly rather than take the City approach of trying to buy a million world attacking stars. One thing is for certain though, he's got a massive enough head to not be daunted by his task and Fergusons legacy, he wouldn't take shit from no board or player, has bags of experience at the highest level and domestically. I'm not convinced Ferguson is the best tactically, though he does have his moments like the midfield he played against Chelsea... Mourinho very much is sound in this area and is far from scared to totally change after 30 minutes. The other thing Jose did was make the team extremely strong in character and fight, motivating them incredibly, something only Ferguson can surpass him in.

I think I'd choose him on the proviso he's aware of the clubs history of attacking and attractive football and will maintain that, plus was prepared to have somebody with Utd history working with him. I don't see why he'd have a problem with that either, he seemed to have a fantastic bond with Steve Clarke.

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I want Mourinho with Keane as his right-hand man (and I mean right-hand man in the gansta sense as well as coach). Brucie is coming on great, but this season taught me that we need a character who can continue to make mincemeat out of the likes of Benitez off the pitch as well. Bruce is a nice guy, probably too nice for his own good. The media goes on about Mourinho's style of play, but I'm not complaining about all these 1-0s at the moment. More to the point, if he doesn't go to Old Trafford, he'll go to a rival. He's made it clear he wants to come back to the Premiership and he won't be coming back to finish second.

Mourinho and Keane working together managing Man Utd :lol: .

I mean, can you really imagine that?

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Jose with a more adventurous style would be ideal, but he's very much his own man so I doubt he'll change all that much. His team in the first season was more attacking but it didn't last very long and they did become very negative. Often grabbing a goal and then sitting back.

He's got the credentials I guess, but I'm still not convinced he's the right man for the job.

I really hope Sir Alex as an involvement in the decision, I'd be very confident we'd get the right man for the job that way.

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From manutd.com-

What's the most amazing thing you've ever seen in training? Dominic Monaghan, actor (Lost, Lord of the Rings)

The most amazing thing is Paul Scholes, in the morning, when a player goes to have a pee at the side of the training pitch and he fires balls from 40 yards right on top of their head! He’s unbelievable. He got John O’Shea about two weeks ago, right on the shoulder, while he was having a pee. He got Gary Neville right in the head and Neville chased him across the pitch!

:)

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I find it very funny that anyone could see Bruce being a suitable successor to Ferguson. Bruce has done very well at Wigan with very little but seriously. He is an amateur in so much. He would crack up under the pressure, shoot his mouth off, complain about the board, start picking petty fights with players who were too big for their boots etc. The big players in that squad would be gone in a season. Ronaldo would be gone in a week.

There are only three men who have the sufficient gravitas to garner respect from the current squad, and one of those has already had a breakdown trying to manage Sunderland. The other two are both Portuguese.

1) Querioz

2) Mourinho

If it ends being anyone else I'll be very very suprised.

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I just can't see it being Queiroz, he hasn't been able to prove himself as a manager at Madrid or as Portugal manager. Had a massive impact as number two here but I think that might behis limits (in terms of involvment with world calss teams).

I also wouldn't rule out O'Neill, if Ferguson wanted a replacement ina similar mould to himself then I would put money on it being him.

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and one of those has already had a breakdown trying to manage Sunderland.

I dunno, I got the impression he just lost interest, because the players didn't care as much as he did. He was disillusioned. This is possibly worse, though; if Sir Alex has any quality, it is self-motivation and drive. He does not lose interest.

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