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fatbob

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Roy Keane is the only choice for me.

I think, at least at Sunderland the concensus of opinion on Keane was that he spent loads and loads of money on players he didn't use and weren't any good, and decided he didn't like them the day after he bought them. Coupled with the fact that at the end none of the players liked him and he didn't like them or want to talk to them either, going so far as to not bother showing up to things like club events, training sessions and even a match IIRC?

Anyway, apart from the romantic notion of an ex captain coming back and being colourful charachter who doesn't put up with bullshit like SAF, atm he would be a pretty awful choice. Lets see how his next job(s) go first.

I think the next manager will likely be from below the radar and not a well know figure in English management, much like how SAF came into the job in the first place, and kind of how Mike Phelan got the #2 role recently.

I just hope SAF himself gets to pick his successor. :rolleyes:

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ckny

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Fergie was the hottest manager in British football when he joined United. He'd just won the Scottish Cup, beaten Real Madrid to win the Cup Winners' Cup, managed Scotland in the 1986 World Cup and had turned down job offers from Rangers, Spurs and Arsenal. He was by no means an unknown.

Until the summer I was convinced Queiroz was just going to move up a seat and take over. After all, according to Fergie himself it was the two of them that masterminded our success in the 2000's. He has to be a success with Portugal to stand any chance of getting the job.

And make no mistake, Ferguson will hand pick his successor, and will be around Old Trafford for many years to come. He'll be in the boardroom with Bobby Charlton, no doubt about it. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see him come out of retirement in a few years to pick up the pieces, á la Matt Busby.

EDIT - on the subject of Keane, his biggest problem was accepting that his players weren't as good as him. That wont be a problem at United. Well, it would, as nobody's as good as Keane was, but you know what I mean.

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Yeah, it's got to be worth giving Keano a go. If the worst happened, Roy would just do what he did with Sunderland and move on quickly. It shouldn't be forgotten that he was a success at Sunderland, brilliant in getting them promotion and keeping them up. He just couldn't be bothered with managing a club that's never going to go anywhere.

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Fergie was the hottest manager in British football when he joined United. He'd just won the Scottish Cup, beaten Real Madrid to win the Cup Winners' Cup, managed Scotland in the 1986 World Cup and had turned down job offers from Rangers, Spurs and Arsenal. He was by no means an unknown.

Until the summer I was convinced Queiroz was just going to move up a seat and take over. After all, according to Fergie himself it was the two of them that masterminded our success in the 2000's. He has to be a success with Portugal to stand any chance of getting the job.

And make no mistake, Ferguson will hand pick his successor, and will be around Old Trafford for many years to come. He'll be in the boardroom with Bobby Charlton, no doubt about it. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see him come out of retirement in a few years to pick up the pieces, á la Matt Busby.

EDIT - on the subject of Keane, his biggest problem was accepting that his players weren't as good as him. That wont be a problem at United. Well, it would, as nobody's as good as Keane was, but you know what I mean.

Not to be too pedantic, but I said in English management rather than British management as a response to people suggesting Morinho, O'Neil, Keane etc pressumebly because Premiership experience these days is assumed to be a must.

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Yeah, it's got to be worth giving Keano a go. If the worst happened, Roy would just do what he did with Sunderland and move on quickly. It shouldn't be forgotten that he was a success at Sunderland, brilliant in getting them promotion and keeping them up. He just couldn't be bothered with managing a club that's never going to go anywhere.

Which I must say is probably the worst attitude a manager can have. By that criteria 99.9% of football clubs "aren't going anywhere". He's been in management what, a couple or three seasons? Does he really deserve to be at a club that is "going somewhere"? I think it'd be a shit appointment for Man Utd and I don't think it'll happen. Its been proven too many times that great player doesn't equal great manager. Look at the Big 4 for instance, none of those managers were special players at all.

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It's a shame Hughes took the money and went to City, as he'd have been my first choice to replace Ferguson. It's actually impossible to imagine him not managing United, he's been there since before I was born. I definitely see Queiroz coming back, there must be some sort of deal there. Ole Solskjaer is doing a good job managing the reserves, maybe he'll get a promotion?

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Maybe once he's managed for another five or so years.

I can see Keane at Celtic after this season. If he does okay there then he might have a chance at it. If Ferguson wins everything again this season though, could he decide now is the time to leave? Or do people expect him to stay 2-3 more seasons whatever happens?

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Keane really needed a few more seasons in the Championship, he was a victim of his own success in some ways by getting them promoted in his first season.

I really wouldn't be surprised if Ferguson left at the end of this season if he picks up a couple of trophies. The only issue is that I expect he wants Mourinho to replace him and he would probably want at least 1 more season at Inter before coming.

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Team News;

Man Utd: Van der Sar, Rafael Da Silva, Vidic, Evans, O'Shea, Ronaldo, Scholes, Carrick, Nani, Berbatov, Rooney. Subs: Kuszczak, Neville, Anderson, Park, Welbeck, Fletcher, Tevez.

Slightly stronger than I expected, only Park and Fletcher are the 'surprise' changes.

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Hmm. Hope it's nothing, good for Tevez to get on early in a game. Also, why do Fletcher and Park always play in very tactical games, like ones against the big four (like the Chelsea game) and in Europe, really impress, then end up on the bench again for a run of the mill PL game?

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Hmm. Hope it's nothing, good for Tevez to get on early in a game. Also, why do Fletcher and Park always play in very tactical games, like ones against the big four (like the Chelsea game) and in Europe, really impress, then end up on the bench again for a run of the mill PL game?

They're better at putting the work in and tracking back to defend. This is more important when you're playing the better teams, who will have better attacking players, basically.

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Hmm. Hope it's nothing, good for Tevez to get on early in a game. Also, why do Fletcher and Park always play in very tactical games, like ones against the big four (like the Chelsea game) and in Europe, really impress, then end up on the bench again for a run of the mill PL game?

I think it's because they give much more defensively than, say, Nani and Scholes. The assumption being that against Wigan we'll dominate possession, but against Chelsea or someone we're more likely to have to work to get hold of the ball.

Edit: or, what dizogg said, 2 minutes ago.

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