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Ever since he was cast away from his pretty dismal performance against City i've been dreading the fact that Mourinho would likely offload him. He is without doubt good enough for a starting spot and I've believed since day one, given the chance, he will become our biggest threat. I'm also drooling at the fact it's seemingly all coming together.

 

A defender or two brought in over January would be dandy though.

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He's missed a few chances but generally for a player in his first season in a new league he's been amazing.  There was a great Zlatan moment against West Ham when he bought down a loose ball in the penalty area, flicked it up, and put in a cross with an overhead kick.

 

I agree that the area that seems to need strengthening is the center backs. It's nice to have Phil Jones back, but Rojo isn't up to it. Bailly will be back soon, hopefully, but it's a mystery what's going on with Smalling. Mourinho has really taken against him and poor old Luke Shaw. Jose better not ruin Shaw's career with his nonsense.

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I think Mourinho took the Man City performance and loss out against a few players, mostly Mkhitaryan and Shaw, for lack of effort in closing down which maybe Jose saw as a lack of commitment, even if it can be explained by lack of fitness/poor communication of what he demanded. Though I thought Lingard was also culpable in that game and he's been more favoured since. 

 

The play has definitely improved in the last few games, but it always did in the cups, this is the most direct, vertical and counter attacking it's been in years, a player carrying the ball past the half way line and 3 others busting a gut to get forward, sprinting in straight lines, like Dortmund would. Is it any coincidence these games coincide with Mkhitaryan's return, he's the fastest midfielder and has spent years playing in a fluid Dortmund side, that attacks in a similarly direct way. Even Rooney has looked good the last few games, lots of interchanging of positions, none of that pick up ball, spray wide. 

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We sat back in the second half and paid the penalty.  It's Mourinho's style to invite teams on, and try to hit them on the break, but everyone knows that's the plan, and seem able to stop the counter-attacks from happening while still keeping the pressure on, leading to inevitable equalizers.  We can blame Fellaini all we want, but a lack of ambition, and an inability to effectively counter, was a bigger problem.

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I agree about Mourinho's tactics being really negative, but I hope that's the last we see of Fellaini. He has to go in January, for me. He's never been good enough to wear the shirt.

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4 hours ago, Jon said:

I agree about Mourinho's tactics being really negative, but I hope that's the last we see of Fellaini. He has to go in January, for me. He's never been good enough to wear the shirt.

 

I agree, it's still galling that Man United spent £30m on Fellaini and Arsenal spent £40m on Ozil in the same window. Maybe Moyes carried with him that small(er) club mentality to United in how he viewed Fellaini's potential impact in a match or maybe he thought Ferllaini could be an effective defensive midfielder, but he's so clumsy it was never likely. You look at the best ones like Busquets and Carrick and then look at Fellaini. Watching all the other top teams collect these amazingly technical players, Arsenal getting Cazorla, Ozil, Real Madrid getting Isco, Rodriguez, Liverpool getting Coutinho, Lallana (yes really), Chelsea having Hazard, Oscar, and at the time Mata, it wasn't where I wanted the club to be. It was like Moyes overestimated the club's position that they'd won the league and didn't need to buy class, and as they've fallen they've over compensated in buying the most classy players to get back to the top. Maybe. He was only one signing but it didn't imply a fluid kind of football.

 

Watching Mourinho in the post match interview on motd as he's asked about the penalty decision and refusing to answer is maybe a good indication how furious with Fellaini he is and if he's as vindictive as he has been in the past with players who upset him, Fellaini won't last much longer. But then he preferred him at ther start of the season so who knows. I think he's been given more time and games than he's deserved. 

 

Still amusing to think of Mourinho making his tactical substitution thinking 'Fellaini is tall and breaks up play, this will so work, last ditch block here we go'...couldn't help but enjoy the look of disgust on his face moments later, like bad luck is following him around, making sure to punish his decisions. 

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Fellaini is so shit, it wasn't even the penalty that infuriated me so much. After the penalty the ball was played up to him in the box, he took it down and tried to lay it off down the left wing but proceeded to seemingly hoof it into row Z. It was appalling for a professional footballer. He needs to go.

 

Everton only started playing real attacking football when they scored the penalty. We controlled 70+ mins of the game and never really felt under threat until that microphone-head shitbag came on. Mourinho's tactics when we are 1 goal up coming into the last 10 mins are abysmal, they always have been, but before he has had the players there that can work to them tactics. Fuck, Schweinsteiger would have been a much better option that Fellaini at that stage but we know how that's going.

 

tl;dr Get Fellaini the fuck out

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On 30/10/2016 at 00:38, Jon said:

I've got no opinion on today's match as I've been out all day, but I just spent the last couple of hours in a Manchester restaurant with Fellaini. I didn't even bother going for a selfie, no matter how much my Liverpool supporting girlfriend protested. He was every bit a polite mother fucker though, as was his brother, no matter how many times I told him he wasn't a united player.

 

On 30/10/2016 at 00:50, Gabzy said:

:lol: I really hope you actually said that. If only you'd watched the match, he came on and the only contribution he made was to commit a stupid foul with his first touch.

Just looking back through the thread and how predictable. Me saying he isn't a United player, then Gabzy saying he came on and made a stupid foul with his first touch. You couldn't make this shit up.

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Not his finest moment. Comes on in the 85th minute and concedes the penalty on 87 minutes. Schneiderlin or Schweinsteiger might have been a better choice to come on had they been on the bench. In fact, what would've been even better is if we killed the game off instead of retreating and trying to play on the counter from the 70th minute. It's obvious this team can't hold onto a single goal winning position, so I don't understand why Jose tries to 'shut up shop'. We're not as good as past United sides have been in the past at seeing games out.

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, spork said:

That was also Fellaini's 100th appearance for Man Utd. Not one to remember. :lol:

Exactly. Not a single fucking one to remember.

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