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5R7

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utterly fucking terrible. slow all over the pitch, labouring over everything, no fast play, no quick passing and breaking, just garbage. one shot on goal, not good enough. tacticly inept again!

we have actual skilful "tricky" wingers, not being played, instead shoehorning forwards out wide...

 

i never wanted jose...i still dont...

 

and martial seems to have forgot hiow to pass!?! dont think ive seem him make a pass over 6 yards accurately!

 

miki hasnt made a good ball either, apart from giving it away...

 

 

annnd ive missed all three goals...goodgrief

 

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19 minutes ago, 5R7 said:

yep

 

 

Someone should tell the players.  We're not going to get top four in the league.

 

Great strike from Rooney, I always like it when a player that's going through a rough patch does something brilliant.  It's a shame it's not actually going to mean anything in this match.

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We are well off the pace, nowhere near City/Liverpool/Chelsea/Spurs. Those players really looked like they could not give a single fuck. It's as bad as anything under LVG or Moyes.

 

Everyone is waiting for it to click. I think if the players start to give a shit, then it'll click. There's no belief in this team, no leaders, nothing.

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Well.  We were absolutely dreadful tonight.  So little movement, so many lazy misplaced passes.  So many brainless fouls.  A lot of good players put in abject performances tonight - Shaw, Martial, Zlatan, Mata, Darmian, virtually all of them really.  Mkhitaryan tried some stuff when he came on, and provided a tiny bit of a spark, which is good, but he was also guilty of some of the worst of the shoddy passes.

 

Where do we go from here?

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5R7

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well in Fm youd do this ...*clicks rotate entire team*

 

i think it needs it, get memphis and miki in there, why not, they cant do worse! altho lingard allways looks like hes giving his all!

 

darmain has show very little, id get phill jones in the team so blind can be back on the left of defence, and then he can move across to actually help shaw, which rojo hasnt been doing at all.

 

up fonr drop rooney and zlatan for a bit, put rashford or matial uyp there, with memphis on the left and miki on the right,  get carrick in the team, then two out of herrea pogba mata in there, hell, maybe even try Basti!

 

 

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1 hour ago, Bleeders said:

We are well off the pace, nowhere near City/Liverpool/Chelsea/Spurs. Those players really looked like they could not give a single fuck. It's as bad as anything under LVG or Moyes.

 

Everyone is waiting for it to click. I think if the players start to give a shit, then it'll click. There's no belief in this team, no leaders, nothing.

As bad?

 

Apparently we've got 2 points less at this point of the season as we did under Moyes.

 

I just read that on the MEN website, so I hope it's as shit as their usual reporting, but I suspect it's probably correct.

 

Moyes in.

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Any predictions about the game against Swansea in a few hours? Come to think of it, if Giggsy had got the job a few weeks ago, it would have been a very interesting match. As it stands, I'm hoping we'll have as many chances as the game last weekend, just need to start taking them.

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It's like a new team every match, names plucked from a hat. Rooney and Zlatan don't play well together, get in the way of each other, Zlatan needs pace off him and they'll be no one. He also could do with a rest. No Mkhitaryan or Herrera on the bench. Was Herrera not one of the best United player's over the last month ? Is this not a big game in terms of performance seeing as the top 5 are cementing their position in the table? It'll be January and the team will still be floundering with uncertainty. Every team line up and bench selection you just have to assume injuries struck, even if there are no reports or updates. 

 

I had a little moan half way through the last game 

 

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Mourinho's treatment of Mkhitaryan is worse than his treatment of Mata in his second stint at Chelsea. At least Mata played in the capital one cup games, and I think earlier than November. 

 

This is not a player becomes better when he's not playing scenario, it's a you've spent £26m on a player in his prime that despite having four competitions to compete in you cannot find any substantial minutes for him at all, despite the players out of form, or knackered, or injured. It's bad management to let it get to this point where he'll be confused and disillusioned. The other Dortmund player (who I'm not sure is rated as highly) to depart to Manchester is obviously doing better given he plays. And scores quite a bit too. I thought Mkhitaryan looked class in pre season, predictably so, and will he single handedly change the team's fortunes? No. Not now. Is he better than some of the out of form players? I think so. Is it bad management to treat a new expensive player who've just signed this way? Yes. 

 

I don't buy the 'he's generally a slow starter at a new club' angle, given that he's older and more experienced now. United weren't buying a 27 year old prospect were they? I thought Mourinho knows with every signing what he wants from them. 

 

Obviously if Man United are gelling so incredibly as a unit without him the issue doesn't come up, even if I feel sorry for yet another player (Kagawa, Pogba, Delay, Herrera, Di Maria) who swapped success at their previous club where they were integral, to now a role on the margins, the familiar sight of them bored in the stands sat with a large bubble coat on.

 

There was a good post in the guardian comments about Mourinho:

 

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This isn't "third season syndrome". It's something rather darker.

Ian Wright, not normally the most incisive analyst, had it right on Sunday evening on Radio 5. He delivered a lengthy assessment of Mourinho since he arrived at Old Trafford in which the constant theme was that the guy looks, sounds and behaves quite unlike his former self during the glory days at Chelsea and then Inter. Indeed he appears to be a different man entirely. He seems drawn and haggard, accepting his fate and seemingly unable to alter the course of events where once he oozed a mixture of charisma and control.

 

He picks on his own players and criticises them in the media where the old Mourinho was a fanatical loyalist who earned his players' unquestioning commitment by always standing by them in public. He has also barely been seen on the training pitch at United, to the dismay and surprise of players who'd heard all the stories about this charismatic hands-on coach who got right into the heads of his players: instead what they've got on their hands is a brooding and peripheral figure on the sidelines who's made no effort to establish personal relationships with any of them.

 

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The Torygraph's article on this today uses the evasive term "meltdown" but personally I'd rather we called a spade a space and said "breakdown". Because I think the worrying personality transformation Wright was describing, which goes way beyond what he was like by 2007 at Chelsea or even by 2013 at the Bernabeu, is fundamentally this time about Mourinho's health.

 

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It's not a breakdown, but he maybe has some form of depression. There were reports last year to do with his dad's health, and I wonder if that's connected.

 

He looks to me like a man who's recently become cognizant of his own mortality, something of which he had never previously been aware, and can't shake off the gloom or muster the will to overcome the challenges of a difficult job.

 

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5R7

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herrera is banned, for a bollocks second yellow last week. and yep, i dont think he knows his team, his tactis have been poor to say the least, he seems to have lost his way entierly, and dosnt have a clue.

 

The worst part ios we wanted klop, but he wouldnt leave...then left a bit later, an we had lvg...meh...

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yep, swansea are terrible. and quite frankly, two of our goals have been reallluy poor.

again, just not fast enough, and rooney has been pish, keeps giving the ball away, poor touch, just needs to go.

pogba and carrick, works! at no surprise to anybody...

 

 

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